Hacking Q: Status on SX OS crack?

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Oh yes. I know this. NCA files get unpacked and etc. Yes.


But XCIs are to read the unpacked NSP data, correct?
Both .XCI and .NSP are containers for .NCA files. The only difference is that with .XCI files they don't need to be unpacked into your console to be read while .NSP do. This is how the Switch is designed to operate.
 

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Both .XCI and .NSP are containers for .NCA files. The only difference is that with .XCI files they don't need to be unpacked into your console to be read while .NSP do. This is how the Switch is designed to operate.


I KNOW the difference. This is not answering my question. I know the difference from NSP and XCI. I was asking why is NSP better and senseful to use than XC?
 

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I KNOW the difference. This is not answering my question. I know the difference from NSP and XCI. I was asking why is NSP better and senseful to use than XC?
Because if you convert the update and DLC .NSP files into .XCI, they will not work properly since they are designed to be additional content for a game, not stand-alone content. The error I believe they bring up is insert the cartridge in order to continue.
 

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Because if you convert the update and DLC .NSP files into .XCI, they will not work properly since they are designed to be additional content for a game, not stand-alone content. The error I believe they bring up is insert the cartridge in order to continue.


AHHH. Now I see whereyou got confused. No one s over here converting NSPs to XCI. XD I know it own't work with DLC and updates. I know how the Switch operates. What I'm sayng is for games you CAN have as NSP and XCI. I know updates and DLc is not them. So I wouldn't convert them. I know the difference.

Why would someone take NSP over XCI when it comes to GAMES. Things you actually CAN run is what I'm saying.
Then you can download the NSP of the updates and installed because.. You know. That's all you can do. I know this.


EDIT: Let me elaborate a bit more.

I KNOW You can get NSP and XCI games.
ALL UPDATES AND DLC ARE IN NSP FORMAT. They can NOT be converted to XCI. I know.
I am speaking exclusively of games. For XCI games, to use updates you would need to get an NSP of the update and install it. Then it will run on the XCI.
 
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AHHH. Now I see whereyou got confused. No one s over here converting NSPs to XCI. XD I know it own't work with DLC and updates. I know how the Switch operates. What I'm sayng is for games you CAN have as NSP and XCI. I know updates and DLc is not them. So I wouldn't convert them. I know the difference.

Why would someone take NSP over XCI when it comes to GAMES. Things you actually CAN run is what I'm saying.
Then you can download the NSP of the updates and installed because.. You know. That's all you can do. I know this.
Because the point I am trying to make is if you have to resort to .NSP files in order to install your updates and DLC files illegally, then there is no reason you can do the same for games. After all, .NSP files are smaller than .XCI files and have been proven to load faster than their .XCI counterparts. They are objectively superior and this is a fact; .XCI files offer no objective benefits over .NSP files.
 

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Because the point I am trying to make is if you have to resort to .NSP files in order to install your updates and DLC files illegally, then there is no reason you can do the same for games. After all, .NSP files are smaller than .XCI files and have been proven to load faster than their .XCI counterparts. They are objectively superior and this is a fact; .XCI files offer no objective benefits over .NSP files.

"NSP files load faster and are smaller."

That's all you had to sayyy. XD That is what I was asking.
I see. See I did not know they were smaller usually. I did not know they load faster if installed to MicroSD.
The main thing is double the space just to install. That is one of the big bummers.

I see though. This has gotten off topic enough though. Let's not stray this fellow's post more.
 
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No one mentioned loading XCI file is the only way to play backups without writing something into your NAND?
 
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No one mentioned loading XCI file is the only way to play backups without writing something into your NAND?
XCI loading and installation are equivocal in functionality; the only difference is that the .NCA files can be stored in the USER partition which has been claimed to not be scanned by Nintendo when discussing the safety of EmuNAND. In other words, installing an .XCI file is about as detectable as installing EmuNAND; either both or neither are safe.
 

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I read threads about hexkeyz and Rei working on the crack of SX OS. But I didnt saw a general thread on that topic. Most probably my fault. Anyway, is anything public yet?

Please dont answer if you like to question the sense of the crack. All I like to learn about, is the latest status. thx
We don't need that shiiet, just get ReinNX and u will be fine, it does all SX OS can do except XCI loader, just stay away from any tentactions about going online online.
 

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XCI loading and installation are equivocal in functionality; the only difference is that the .NCA files can be stored in the USER partition which has been claimed to not be scanned by Nintendo when discussing the safety of EmuNAND. In other words, installing an .XCI file is about as detectable as installing EmuNAND; either both or neither are safe.

What about the nsp tickets?

That claim about the user partition may or may not be true now, but nintendo can easily look there.
 

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Of course built in updating is a feature. I'm aware that SX emuNAND redirects the fake NAND to a file instead of an SD card. I could give a toss about emuNAND since the exploit is in the bootROM. I know Hekate's capabilities. The point is that you can perform these tasks with SX OS's boot menu. It's all contained in the boot.dat. No seperated files or payloads needed. As new utilities are added (whether stolen or not) they will be available to the end user without having to check forums or websites. Simply update from within SX OS and reboot. Easy is relative. What is easy for us is too difficult for some users to bother with.

I understand that TX has appropriated code without proper credit. However, that doesn't effect the end user experience.
it's so hard for you to understand... THAT THAT ISN'T EMUNAND? Is just a 2nd sysnand and it's 100 times more dangerous
 

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it's so hard for you to understand... THAT THAT ISN'T EMUNAND? Is just a 2nd sysnand and it's 100 times more dangerous
Not sure you know what you're talking about to be honest. This 100 times more dangerous bullshit is a false statement. Do you understand the process SX uses to add the rnand to the chip and redirect to it? Probably better do some more research.

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"Why would we want a possible ban over an instant guaranteed ban?"

Gee. Who knows.
Just ignore this guy, he has an agenda and will twist words to avoid talking technical details
 
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Not sure you know what you're talking about to be honest. This 100 times more dangerous bullshit is a false statement. Do you understand the process SX uses to add the rnand to the chip and redirect to it? Probably better do some more research.

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Just ignore this guy, he has an agenda and will twist words to avoid talking technical details
YOU should do better research, try to update your "emunand", or turn off while creating, or format it

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"Why would we want a possible ban over an instant guaranteed ban?"

Gee. Who knows.
okay you got me there
 

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it's so hard for you to understand... THAT THAT ISN'T EMUNAND? Is just a 2nd sysnand and it's 100 times more dangerous

I understand exactly. It's an image file that acts as a second NAND. It doesn't repartition the NAND as many people assumed. Whether you consider it emuNAND isn't important. That's symantics. Maybe Nintendo will be able to easily detect the file on the NAND. I don't know. And neither do you.

I don't care about emuNAND anyways. It has limited value on the Switch since the entry point is the bootROM.
 

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I understand exactly. It's an image file that acts as a second NAND. It doesn't repartition the NAND as many people assumed. Whether you consider it emuNAND isn't important. That's symantics. Maybe Nintendo will be able to easily detect the file on the NAND. I don't know. And neither do you.

I don't care about emuNAND anyways. It has limited value on the Switch since the entry point is the bootROM.
EmuNand is important and is coming with Atmosphere
 
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