Looks like this is it. According to a tweet from SciresM, the latest 3DS firmware update 11.8 has ported the Nintendo Switch's piracy detection systems to the console. This strategy enables Nintendo to perfectly distinguish pirated and legit games going online and has been used before to detect and ban pirates on Switch. This is not something that can be avoided with homebrew. According to SciresM, Nintendo hasn't acted on 3DS pirates yet, but can choose to do so any time in the future.

Be careful, guys.

Looks like 11.8.0 backports the Switch's aauth ideas to 3ds -- network comms now send an encrypted(?) copy of app ticket to the server.

They may not act on it immediately, but like on Switch this lets N perfectly detect pirate accesses vs normal ones, and ban however they like.

— Michael (@SciresM) July 31, 2018

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[bluhacks]

So hypothetically would you get banned if you have a out-of-region game like European WarioWare Gold installed on a US console if you update? Well at least I was smart enough to not update and create a NAND backup.

 

[NFates]

So, should I just stay on 11.7? Smash 4 does not require latest system FW for online, and I don't think Pokemon USUM does either. And even if Pokemon USUM gets an update or two down the road, I can use FBI to install those updates, right?

You can stay on 11.7 for now, but if you want to play online you'll ultimately have to update in like a week.

 

[SS4]

Well, got the update notification today, staying on 11.7. I'ts not like i need to use the eshop or anything anyways . . .

 

[RedBlueGreen]

Seems like Sky3DS+ might still have a use now. Unless they can tell which header your game is from and ban you.

 

[NFates]

They still could ban you so I would just use that money on a nice SD card + putting CFW on my console.

 

[BhenBen_85]

I dont play online games but I do access FreeShop on 11.8 can I get banned?

 

[RedBlueGreen]

I dont play online games but I do access FreeShop on 11.8 can I get banned?

If you download then yes. Theoretically the only way you won't get banned from downloading a .cia with your 3DS (as in downloading via CDN) would be if somebody makes a FreeShop alternative that downloads and installs games from a ROM site, or a private server that has the games on it but functions like the eShop. If you download from Nintendo's server theyllt check the ticket validity, see that you don't have the ticket, and ban you.

 

[EmanueleBGN]

For the ones who saying they have the same account on 3DS and on Switch: you haven't!
3DS uses NNID. Switch uses Nintendo Account. NNID can be linked to a Nintendo Account, but they aren't the same thing

 

[BhenBen_85]

If you download then yes. Theoretically the only way you won't get banned from downloading a .cia with your 3DS (as in downloading via CDN) would be if somebody makes a FreeShop alternative that downloads and installs games from a ROM site, or a private server that has the games on it but functions like the eShop. If you download from Nintendo's server theyllt check the ticket validity, see that you don't have the ticket, and ban you.

so i should stop downloading games from FreeShop? by the way if I download using Villanes3D and it need to sent seed ticket is there a chance of getting banned also?

 

[RedBlueGreen]

so i should stop downloading games from FreeShop? by the way if I download using Villanes3D and it need to sent seed ticket is there a chance of getting banned also?

If you use a titleID to get the ticket (like what you could do with CIAngel) then there's a chance. I haven't used Villanes3D though so I don't really know. If it pulls from the eShop you risk getting banned.

 

[BhenBen_85]

If you use a titleID to get the ticket (like what you could do with CIAngel) then there's a chance. I haven't used Villanes3D though so I don't really know. If it pulls from the eShop you risk getting banned.

what will happened if I get banned? does my 3DS will not be usefull anymore? I wish I can just go back to 11.7 , I don really go online and when I am online its only to download games on FreeShop. I hope I wont get banned.

 

[Alex4nder001]

Could I downgrade?

well,you need newest fw for online so.. and freeshop can use any fw and nintendo may be able to detect an access from a older fw and ban it since it isn't the newest.

Would spoofing the FW be possible? IIRC there was as an app that did that.

 

[jimmyj]

Could I downgrade?

Would spoofing the FW be possible? IIRC there was as an app that did that.

but that would have the same effect

 

[NFates]

what will happened if I get banned? does my 3DS will not be usefull anymore? I wish I can just go back to 11.7 , I don really go online and when I am online its only to download games on FreeShop. I hope I wont get banned.

Depending on the error code, if you get banned you can't play online, access your Friend List and / or access eShop. Not a big deal if you don't use any of those.

 

[ShadowtearX]

Any method of disabling the system's update service? could be handy to not excidently allowing the system to updaet to 11.8

 

[SS4]

Sky 3DS+ with header should still be fine though right? If so, just not gonna use online on games not on my SD card i guess.
Gonna stick with 11.7 as long as i can though.

 

[goldensun87]

Any method of disabling the system's update service? could be handy to not excidently allowing the system to updaet to 11.8

1. The system will never automatically update, it will only automatically download the update files.
2. You can block the system from automatically downloading the update files, by setting a custom DNS. This will however prevent you from playing games online, so you would have to turn auto-DNS back on. It's easier to just keep your wi-fi disabled until you actually need to go online.
3. The system only downloads the update if you leave it idle, including while in sleep mode. If the update gets downloaded, you can use FBI to delete the update files in order to get rid of the nagging.

 

[WiikeyHacker]

i can play online no problems and i have my updates blocked mario kart and monster hunter are no problems plus even if i do get banned i can undo it with ease Nintendo are powerless against me.

 

[pasc]

The 3DS's "library" isn't worth much to speak about anyhow...

So why do they bother anymore ?

The 3DS's been dead for 4 years now... who cares...

*fires up his GBA*

 

[ShadowtearX]

1. The system will never automatically update, it will only automatically download the update files.
2. You can block the system from automatically downloading the update files, by setting a custom DNS. This will however prevent you from playing games online, so you would have to turn auto-DNS back on. It's easier to just keep your wi-fi disabled until you actually need to go online.
3. The system only downloads the update if you leave it idle, including while in sleep mode. If the update gets downloaded, you can use FBI to delete the update files in order to get rid of the nagging.

Thanks for the information.