Team-Xecuter Releases SX OS v1.4

gene0915 · Jul 25, 2018

First off, I think it's time that SciresM go edit his old Reddit post about how impossible it will be to ever pirate eShop titles.

Secondly, speaking of SciresM (and others).... what will their apps provide that we don't already have with SX OS 1.4? We have backup loading, eShop titles (DLC and updates), Homebrew launching. Other than Atmosphere and the likes being free, what new things will they bring to the table? Emunand? (Which IMHO, is pointless at this stage.)

Ok, now on to the main topic, got a few questions regarding the installation of eShop titles:

1) When installing eShop titles, any advantages (other than maybe faster loading times) to installing them in system RAM vs. SD card?
2) When you install to SD card, does it go back and delete the .NSP file or must you use a file manager or power down the Switch and remove the SD card to remove .NSP files once they're installed?
3) If you select the option to install to SD card, what directory do they end up in?

Batpeter · Jul 25, 2018

gene0915 said:
Ok, now on to the main topic, got a few questions regarding the installation of eShop titles:

1) When installing eShop titles, any advantages (other than maybe faster loading times) to installing them in system RAM vs. SD card?
2) When you install to SD card, does it go back and delete the .NSP file or must you use a file manager or power down the Switch and remove the SD card to remove .NSP files once they're installed?
3) If you select the option to install to SD card, what directory do they end up in?

2) it does not delete the NSP, although that would be a nice feature to add

cearp · Jul 25, 2018

Memoir said:
Hm. Okay then. Run homebrew from their menu? Hm. Hmmmmm... What. Why? Clutter! That's why!

I thought the same but they're in separate tabs, very cool!

kumikochan · Jul 25, 2018

Cerealz said:
I would understand the "hate/critics" if TX was selling a "clone" product of something that was already free, and taking credits + marketing. But in the end, they're not "just" doing that. (it's their own package)
For once, until now, i haven't seen "elsewhere" a cart emulation/xci. For that, and it was their selling point, nothing to judge.

If this Tinfoil-Stealing thing is real, the fact that you can do a bit more (update/dlc), proves that they also worked on it. (not good ethics but not just stealing and selling)

(I work as a programmer for 20 years now, and sure, open-source/communities are great, but, if you make something that you know, someone could take advantage of it in a commercial way and you'll not be happy about it, don't go around and share your source-code. There's no need to cry about it later.)

And the selling key in TX product, is that they're making it all-in-one easy package. You can't judge that also.
Even if there's "stealing" involved... you hardly know the work they have, to bundle all of it, upgrading, fixing.
The dongle thing.. you can also do that yourself .. but will you? Big part of the things in the world, easy or hard, you can do it with your bare hands... but you end paying someone else to do it for you, and easier your life.

That's what's happening in this TX drama.
Just look at this way.. your paying someone else a service to get your "life" easier.
(Why wasting money in restaurants, when you can buy the same ingredients in a local market for less?)

(I'm not defending TX or anyone else... just my 5 cent regarding this subject)

The thing is still. If you steal from an open source and make small improvements then atleast have the balls to show what you did and make it open source yourself. Stealing from others and then closing it all off is not how it works and you as a programmer should know that. Im not saying they didn't make improvements but if you have the balls to steal the base alteast also have the balls then to show what you did to improve the original code

Quantumcat · Jul 25, 2018

A reminder that "code stealing" and GPL issues is offtopic, you can talk about it here https://gbatemp.net/threads/gpl-101-atmosphere-and-sx-os.511312/

@Ian095

n3mur1t0r · Jul 25, 2018

gene0915 said:
First off, I think it's time that SciresM go edit his old Reddit post about how impossible it will be to ever pirate eShop titles.

Secondly, speaking of SciresM (and others).... what will their apps provide that we don't already have with SX OS 1.4? We have backup loading, eShop titles (DLC and updates), Homebrew launching. Other than Atmosphere and the likes being free, what new things will they bring to the table? Emunand? (Which IMHO, is pointless at this stage.)

Ok, now on to the main topic, got a few questions regarding the installation of eShop titles:

1) When installing eShop titles, any advantages (other than maybe faster loading times) to installing them in system RAM vs. SD card?
2) When you install to SD card, does it go back and delete the .NSP file or must you use a file manager or power down the Switch and remove the SD card to remove .NSP files once they're installed?
3) If you select the option to install to SD card, what directory do they end up in?

1) No advantages; some people say games load a little faster from the system NAND but I didn't notice.
2) You can use NXShell or delete them yourself from the SD card; they will most likely add this as an option in the future.
3) I'd like to know this as well.

Scottla94 · Jul 25, 2018

Batpeter said:
2) it does not delete the NSP, although that would be a nice feature to add

I dont agree on nsp delete just incase you want to keep file for later incase you need space if you delete the content from switch

comput3rus3r · Jul 25, 2018

Moko said:
it was a bad dump, the new version works with dev menu
if i try to install with sx os, it only takes a second, but wont run

exactly what happens to me. I use it with devmenu works fine. installs with sx-os in 1 second but it doesn't run.
there's something else going on here.

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n3mur1t0r · Jul 25, 2018

comput3rus3r said:
exactly what happens to me. I use it with devmenu works fine. installs with sx-os in 1 second but it doesn't run.
there's something else going on here.

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says the guy who can't comprehend what was written.

Just download the game and the update using CDNSP, as other people stated before.

comput3rus3r · Jul 25, 2018

Erol said:
how do you convert xci to nsp though?

hm why do you need the update though? Can you just update the game using the switch? (I know ban risk aside)

it doesn't matter if I update. I have two versions of the game. one is the game+update in 1 nsp. and the other is 1 nsp for the game and 1 nsp for the update. they both don't work on sx-os. the version with 2 nsp's fails to install the ticket. and the version with 1 nsp just fails to run. the version with 1 nsp works fine on my other switch with devmenu followed in this guide.
https://gbatemp.net/threads/quick-g...ates-dlc-with-devmenu-no-sx-os-needed.512337/

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Moko said:
Look at page 15, i had the same problems. it was a bad dump.

so devmenu is compatible with bad dumps? since it's working fine on my other switch.

vgplayer54 · Jul 25, 2018

This update is great! I have a quick question though - I load all my games which are in xci format, not nsp. If I were to install a game update or DLC in NSP format, would that take effect on the xci game? or does the game itself also have to be in NSP format?

longxa762 · Jul 25, 2018

Scottla94 said:
I dont agree on nsp delete just incase you want to keep file for later incase you need space if you delete the content from switch

That is why you keep a backup on your PC

Straw · Jul 25, 2018

vgplayer54 said:
This update is great! I have a quick question though - I load all my games which are in xci format, not nsp. If I were to install a game update or DLC in NSP format, would that take effect on the xci game? or does the game itself also have to be in NSP format?

im using the xci version zelda, the zelda dlc works fine.

Essasetic · Jul 25, 2018

I'm impressed with TX and how they are keeping up with the scene.

Their homebrew launcher is useful because it loads applications instantly unlike the 2-3 second delay on the normal homebrew launcher (it doesn't seem like a lot but it adds up).

Their NSP installer (even though it contains tinfoil code) is modified so you can install game updates and DLC which tinfoil couldn't do. It's also in a easy to use GUI merged with the homebrew library and your xci library. Also (unlike devmenu) it detects the game you're trying to install and displays the game name and metadata for it.

Also I'm impressed with the fixes with 1-2 Switch and Resident Evil (finally my sister can play 1-2 Switch without whining at me that it froze).

Overall I'm glad that I got an SX Pro. Their updates are major and consistent and I'm looking forward to what they'll be adding on SX OS 1.5

smf · Jul 25, 2018

longxa762 said:
That is why you keep a backup on your PC

If you have two switches and you want to install an nsp on both then it's going to be a bit annoying if it always deletes.

Ty_ · Jul 25, 2018

morrison22 said:
After some testing over 2 weeks, all versions of FTPd that I have messed with have crashed for me in sx os, except for this version by m4xw posted here:

https://gbatemp.net/threads/ftp-application.506434/page-5#post-8095435

Something about this ^ compilation is right and no crashes in docked or handheld mode.

Usually I've had crashes when it transfers files over say 10MB, does this version fix it?

a7mag3ddon · Jul 25, 2018

kumikochan said:
Then they have to make that open source since they stole the original source. If they used tinfoil, then make it open source and not close it off

Did they steal tinfoil code ? Or did they reverse engineer Dev menu? Whatever they did La Noir now works and it didn't on either of the other 2.

Cerealz · Jul 25, 2018

Psarogen said:
The reality is that if people are getting paid they are working harder and they are enjoying doing so. TX is doing just that. Even if they are using stolen code they are improving massively (Tinfoil is not enough if you cant install DLCs and updates to the internal memory.)

I agree that they should credit the creators though.

Also, if you want the community developers to work harder donate to them. They have to eat some nice burgers if they have to stay up all night to write code.

The problem with the "donate" part is that it involves spending money, which is the main reason most of people complain against TX.(i'm 99,9% sure that if TX product were free..they were the "best in the world" for everyone)
People just want free stuff... and mock people that are paying for TX solution. In the end, they don't care about the work devs spent. (being tx or scene devs)

It's basically a loop-hole..

dsrules · Jul 25, 2018

Raikkonen94 said:
A thread was actually made about it: https://gbatemp.net/threads/error-code-2144-0001-with-sx-os-1-2.509852/

It occurred every now and then in docked mode (not consistently) and very rarely in handheld mode too. It's nothing major though, but I (and a few others judging from that thread) encountered it every so often.

most problems people had are due to bad microsd cards, if it happens to you often, it might be a good idea to try a different microsd

Psarogen · Jul 25, 2018

No one knows for sure what they did. The only thing that matters is that sx os is the only complete 100% backup loading solution with built in tools right now.

Lets not fool ourselves, most people wanted cfw for piracy. The homebrew apps are not really interesting right now.

If community developers prioritized backup loading now TX would have zero sales and everyone would be happy. Trying to stop piracy by not creating backup loaders was just giving them the chance to make money.

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