Hacking Nintendo Switch Banning Hub & Warning

[sorabora]

He injected foreign certificates into his backups which is not safe to do whatsoever, even if the title IDs match.

Is that at all similar to updating .XCI dumps not made of your own carts?

 

[Draxzelex]

Is that essentially the same as updating .XCI dumps not made of your own carts?

No, the only reason you would inject foreign certificates into a backup is to enable it to play online. This is what we did during the 3DS era and Nintendo had no way of catching people doing this outside of 2 or more people going online using the same certificate. Game updates are handled a lot differently and don't require a certificate or even owning the game at all which makes updating them in OFW pretty safe.

 

[sorabora]

No, the only reason you would inject foreign certificates into a backup is to enable it to play online. This is what we did during the 3DS era and Nintendo had no way of catching people doing this outside of 2 or more people going online using the same certificate. Game updates are handled a lot differently and don't require a certificate or even owning the game at all which makes updating them in OFW pretty safe.

Thanks. I haven't filled out the form yet (sorry), but man I've been getting more and more reckless/lazy over the last couple weeks that every day I'm like...still not yet? lol

Simple but avoidable mistakes like relying on airplane mode to stay offline when I really should just remove my WiFi settings; being all fuck it and turning on WiFi for FTP use; updating in SX OS as opposed to OFW; and a few other things here and there. I'm guessing it's just a matter of getting caught up in the the next wave

 

[Crazy_Seb]

get banned this morning with SX OS only, never installed something else. Get banned in normal mode with a Fortnite online update

 

[Draxzelex]

get banned this morning with SX OS only, never installed something else. Get banned in normal mode with a Fortnite online update

Please fill out the entire form when you get a chance. Thank you in advance.

 

[SterneSchreien]

So as of right the only 100% safe method to use SX is to keep the unit in airplane mode at all time?

So get a second unit if you want to play MK/Splatoon2?

 

[V-Temp]

So as of right the only 100% safe method to use SX is to keep the unit in airplane mode at all time?

So get a second unit if you want to play MK/Splatoon2?

Having two units is the safest way if you want online play, yes.

 

[pro-pumper]

Ban? Yes
SX used? No
SX used while online? No
Played SX Backups online? No
Lowest SX Version used when Online/Offline (NOT Switch System Firmware)? No
Non-TX Layered FS Used? Yes
Non-TX Layered FS Used while online? Yes, just with ftp no to play or update games
Played online w/ Non-TX Layered FS Injects? No
Used DevMenu? No
Installed any .NSP? No
Did you go online w/ any .NSP installed? No
Did you play any .NSP installed online? No
CDN Downloading? No
Backups updated? No
Homebrew/non-TX CFW Used? No
Connect to Internet w/ homebrew/CFW? Yes, hombrew ftp
Connect to eShop while using CFW/homebrew? No
AutoRCM? No
Did you update your firmware without burning fuses? No
receive-lp1.dg.srv.nintendo.net blocked and/or "Don't Share Usage Information" ticked under "Other Settings"? No
What firmware(s) were you on when you cleared error logs prior to going online? Yes: 5.1.0
Disabled "Send Error Information" in System Settings? Yes
Wi-Fi settings deleted? No
Airplane mode? Yes, just turn off when i use ftp homebrew
Auto-Update Software Enabled in System Settings? No
Can you use the eShop on the Switch? No
Can you use the eShop from a non-Switch device? Yes
Console/Account Region(s): Nort America
Trimmed .XCI? No
Additional Comments: I never used wifi to play or update any game (original or with donor), just for transfer my files from pc to Switch

 

[Draxzelex]

@pro-pumper Did LayeredFS ever crash on you at any point?

 

[pro-pumper]

@pro-pumper Did LayeredFS ever crash on you at any point?

yes, on several occasions while playing Hyrule Warriors, then go into edit weapons and exit, it is immediately locked and I have to force the console to turn off (obviously, the layeredFS was also removed) This happened from version 2.1 even now with version 3.2

 

[NeoSlyde]

yes, on several occasions while playing Hyrule Warriors, then go into edit weapons and exit, it is immediately locked and I have to force the console to turn off (obviously, the layeredFS was also removed) This happened from version 2.1 even now with version 3.2

this is why.
but hey ! at least you will never worry to get banned again !
i wish i get banned soon...

 

[IxthusTiger]

I've just been banned from the eShop, however I was NOT banned from playing online. I'll submit a report later, but I've never used LayeredFS at all. I have used home brew emulators and they have crashed, and I have cleared my logs with nxdreport. At ban time, I did have a normal looking error list (network and internet errors) and of course had error reporting off. I blame YOU LaiNES! So many crashes! I'll play online a bunch this week and see if I don't get banned from everything.

 

[V-Temp]

I've just been banned from the eShop, however I was NOT banned from playing online. I'll submit a report later, but I've never used LayeredFS at all. I have used home brew emulators and they have crashed, and I have cleared my logs with nxdreport. At ban time, I did have a normal looking error list (network and internet errors) and of course had error reporting off. I blame YOU LaiNES! So many crashes! I'll play online a bunch this week and see if I don't get banned from everything.

This has happened before, the full ban seems to follow a few hours later.

 

[Draxzelex]

yes, on several occasions while playing Hyrule Warriors, then go into edit weapons and exit, it is immediately locked and I have to force the console to turn off (obviously, the layeredFS was also removed) This happened from version 2.1 even now with version 3.2

Alright, this confirms my theory on how you were banned. Problem is I don't know if it was initially due to the custom error logs LayeredFS created when it crashed or because firmware 5.X detected inconsistencies in the recorded logs after it was cleared, but its surmounting evidence that people banned with LayeredFS had it crash at one point if they were banned despite remaining completely offline.

I've just been banned from the eShop, however I was NOT banned from playing online. I'll submit a report later, but I've never used LayeredFS at all. I have used home brew emulators and they have crashed, and I have cleared my logs with nxdreport. At ban time, I did have a normal looking error list (network and internet errors) and of course had error reporting off. I blame YOU LaiNES! So many crashes! I'll play online a bunch this week and see if I don't get banned from everything.

I do believe you, however I'm not sure if I would feel it is appropriate in asking you to see how long you can continue playing online. This definitely hints at there being subtypes to the bans Nintendo implements. At the very least, it will be very interesting when you test the eShop from your computer with your Nintendo Account.

 

[pro-pumper]

Alright, this confirms my theory on how you were banned. Problem is I don't know if it was initially due to the custom error logs LayeredFS created when it crashed or because firmware 5.X detected inconsistencies in the recorded logs after it was cleared, but its surmounting evidence that people banned with LayeredFS had it crash at one point if they were banned despite remaining completely offline.

it could be, whenever I started layeredFS I cleaned the log and never had a problem, until I updated to "hekate - CTCaer mod v3.2" and "v5.2 - Major Tom"

 

[zaku]

In my discord group quite a few SX users got banned today for installing NSP with devmenu. People always want to take risks SMH.

 

[DiJornios]

So whats the verdict for online play with SX OS only?

 

[Draxzelex]

So whats the verdict for online play with SX OS only?

Check the head count in "Statistics for the Lazy". Its actually not even currently updated with all of the SX OS only bans.

 

[nero99]

Used any CDN Downloader: Yes (CDNSP with a different already banned cert"
Unchecked "Send Errors" in Menu: No
Cleared Error Logs prior to going Online with nx-dreport: No
(i dont have sx os so these lines are no)
Layered FS Used offline: Yes
Layered FS Used online: Yes (to launch dev menu)
Played with Layered FS Injects online: No
Homebrew Offline: Yes
Connect internet with homebrew: Yes
Connect to eShop during CFW: Yes
Played with Layered FS Injects with OwnCert.: Yes
Does the Eshop work: No
Backups updated: Yes (SX OS)
WiFi settings deleted: No
Airplane mode: Yes & No
AutoRCM: Yes (TX)
Auto Game Update/Downloads deactivated: Yes
(also used exhop to download mario tennis aces for free) No

I was banned because I accidentally connected to the the Nintendo Network with Paladins I installed as a .nsp

 

[Manny-]

Is it safe to play a GBA emulator only on the switch?