Hacking Best way to CFW and GW

[Pickle_Rick]

You can play games that need a higher firmware, and you can play online (I think). That's all people want out of a higher firmware so it's disingenuous to say you can't be on a higher firmware at all under any circumstances.

I think there are some that still don't work without patches. But yeah you can play online.

 

[mikefor20]

Well more like "works." It's usable, but really shouldn't be encouraged.
I do agree with @Pickle_Rick though that it's not really the latest OFW. It's a mess of parts clumped on top of an old OFW.

It's fine if you want to play with it. OP don't worry. I have my Red cart in my old 3ds. It works fine. You'll prefer Luma anyway. 100% boot rate. Fast as stock. 100% compatible. You'll see. Than just keep Card type 2 games if you don't want to hassle with he save transfers on the GW and overflow of non internet games. That is the way.

 

[The Catboy]

It's fine if you want to play with it. OP don't worry. I have my Red cart in my old 3ds. It works fine. You'll prefer Luma anyway. 100% boot rate. Fast as stock. 100% compatible. You'll see. Than just keep Card type 2 games if you don't want to hassle with he save transfers on the GW and overflow of non internet games. That is the way.

Just because they can still get online doesn't change the fact that's a mess of an OFW that can be avoided by simply no longer using Gateway.

 

[Pickle_Rick]

Just because they can still get online doesn't change the fact that's a mess of an OFW that can be avoided by simply no longer using Gateway.

That too. Agreed.

 

[crimpshrine]

The best way to help someone with Gateway now isn't to create some frankenfirmware and chainload through a chainloader. The best way to use Gateway is to stop using it and use a CFW. I am well within the goal of this thread by suggesting the best way to using Gateway and CFW, by suggesting said best way. I am suggesting something that is actually going to help the user by telling the what they actually need to hear verse what they want to hear. Of course I mentioned the team's support when the user mentioned that they were going to wait. It's important to mention that the team no longer supports this cart and explain why waiting for something to happen isn't productive. My comment was well within context of the post that it was replying to. You on the other hand continue to actually make matters worse. You are literally suggesting making a frankenfirmware, then booting through a better CFW to chainload into a dead product. That's not the best way, it's an overly complicated mess. Compared to the sensible suggestion of just setting up a CFW and cutting out the need for a frankenfirmware and chainloading, which saves on time and effort, thus being the best method. I am indeed suggesting the best method when you consider just how little work is needed in comparison.
My goal is to get everyone away from Gateway and I don't even attempt to pretend that's not my goal. It's going to be every single Gateway thread until people stop using it and let the cart go.

Just because you have come to the conclusion that there is absolutely no reason to use GW still, does not make it correct for everyone. No matter how many times you say it is so.

I think you guys that act like this about GW are missing some of the parts of your brain that are responsible for critical thinking. It's like you see yourself as the SJW of the console/flashcard scene or something. Your completely incapable of seeing something from the other side.

I was going to state the obvious reasons why GW is still desirable for those of us, but why? You won't get it anyhow.

 

[lone_wolf323]

Just because you have come to the conclusion that there is absolutely no reason to use GW still, does not make it correct for everyone. No matter how many times you say it is so.

I think you guys that act like this about GW are missing some of the parts of your brain that are responsible for critical thinking. It's like you see yourself as the SJW of the console/flashcard scene or something. Your completely incapable of seeing something from the other side.

I was going to state the obvious reasons why GW is still desirable for those of us, but why? You won't get it anyhow.

Do you not see that the gateway team stopped giving a fuck about their product once 11.3 rolled around? If they kept up and cared about their product. Gateway may be seen as a bit more feasible. But they have proven themselves useless again and again. Even in their stargate they have shown their incompetence.

 

[crimpshrine]

Do you not see that the gateway team stopped giving a fuck about their product once 11.3 rolled around? If they kept up and cared about their product. Gateway may be seen as a bit more feasible. But they have proven themselves useless again and again. Even in their stargate they have shown their incompetence.

Why does that even matter to me? Can I not still use the GW's now, like I did a year ago, in the same way I have always used them. Yeah, I can.

I have probably saved over 2000 hours on waiting for games to be installed on my kids 3ds's over using CFW alone over the years they have had them.

They all want new games? No problem, I can knock that out in 40 minutes. 2 3ds's with 64 Gig flashcards with new games. Can I do the same with CFW in anywhere close to the same amount of time? Not the last time I checked.

Unless I am missing something, does CFW finally support the release scene standard of .3ds files without having to install CIA's or download from freeshop yet?

 

[Quantumcat]

Please keep on topic guys.

 

[Pickle_Rick]

Why does that even matter to me? Can I not still use the GW's now, like I did a year ago, in the same way I have always used them. Yeah, I can.

I have probably saved over 2000 hours on waiting for games to be installed on my kids 3ds's over using CFW alone over the years they have had them.

They all want new games? No problem, I can knock that out in 40 minutes. 2 3ds's with 64 Gig flashcards with new games. Can I do the same with CFW in anywhere close to the same amount of time? Not the last time I checked.

Unless I am missing something, does CFW finally support the release scene standard of .3ds files without having to install CIA's or download from freeshop yet?

There's this thing called freeshop (I know you mentioned it). It'll download and install the game at the same time. It even works in sleep mode like the real eshop.

 

[crimpshrine]

There's this thing called freeshop (I know you mentioned it). It'll download and install the game at the same time. It even works in sleep mode like the real eshop.

Yeah I know about freeshop, when I finally got around to installing CFW a couple years ago and saw how freaking slow the 3ds wireless and installing from freeshop was, I was like wow! this is terrible, glad I have the GW. I can't imagine doing this over and over again for my kids.

To each his own I guess, glad there are still people like Mike that are willing to help those of us that want to still use the GW and be helpful and not so close minded.

 

[Pickle_Rick]

2-3MB/s is still really slow. A good SD card can pull 60-80MB/s in a PC, insert the card into a 3DS and select the file in the GW selector and play.

CFW is still superior overall, but not installing things is nice as well.

Uh what? No it isn't. I can install MHU in less than 10 mins. Downloading it from a warez site and copying it to your SD is going to take about the same amount of time.

If I recall it was like 1.5 Megabytes per sec max when I tried.. When I copy games to my SD cards for my kids, it is like 45-50 megabytes per second. Which is around 30+ times quicker. Which means I can get them setup quickly and don't have to wait forever.

Again, you still have to download those roms in the first place and then copy them to the SD.

 

[crimpshrine]

Again, you still have to download those roms in the first place and then copy them to the SD.

I only had to download them 1 time, never again. Every time I setup a microsd card I can copy files without the initial overhead of waiting to get the file.

Every time you install from freeshop, it is the same slow speed. I have switched games many times and loaded/reloaded cards at 30+ times the speed for use with the GW's, if I did the same with freeshop on multiple 3ds units, it would take 30+ times longer multiplied by the number of times I have done this, which adds up to considerable more time when factored over time.

 

[Pickle_Rick]

I only had to download them 1 time, never again. Every time I setup a microsd card I can copy files without the initial overhead of waiting to get the file.

Every time you install from freeshop, it is the same slow speed. I have switched games many times and loaded/reloaded cards at 30+ times the speed for use with the GW's, if I did the same with freeshop on multiple 3ds units, it would take 30+ times longer multiplied by the number of times I have done this, which adds up to considerable more time when factored over time.

I have a huge mSD. So that's not a problem. Why delete them at all?

 

[crimpshrine]

I have a huge mSD. So that's not a problem. Why delete them at all?

For you, but my kids don't use their 3ds's like that. I don't fill them with ever possible game. I do it in packs, it keeps them more interested.. and with as much time as it takes to fill that huge mSD your even in worse shape if and when your sd card dies, you will be doing it all again at an extreme amount of time, for me with GW, I will be too, but 30-35 times quicker than you.

Example:

128 Gig mSD card: time to fill on freeshop at 3 megabytes per second - would take 711 minutes or 12 hours. I am guessing in reality for most it would be much longer, I am being nice by saying a constant 3 Megabytes per second. Still 12 hours.. Probably really like 18.

128 Gig mSD card to copy over from my computer at 45 Megabytes per second - takes 47 minutes

 

[Pickle_Rick]

For you, but my kids don't use their 3ds's like that. I don't fill them with ever possible game. I do it in packs, it keeps them more interested.. and with as much time as it takes to fill that huge mSD your even in worse shape if and when your sd card dies, you will be doing it all again at an extreme amount of time, for me with GW, I will be too, but 30-35 times quicker than you.

Example:

128 Gig mSD card: time to fill on freeshop at 3 megabytes per second - would take 711 minutes or 12 hours. I am guessing in reality for most it would be much longer, I am being nice by saying a constant 3 Megabytes per second. Still 12 hours.. Probably really like 18.

128 Gig mSD card to copy over from my computer at 45 Megabytes per second - takes 47 minutes

I have an image of my SD on my PC. I can restore it just as fast as you if it breaks.

 

[crimpshrine]

I have an image of my SD on my PC. I can restore it just as fast as you if it breaks.

Yeah I did not consider that, but even so it only takes me 47 minutes, it takes 12-18 hours to fill your card, then another 47 minutes to back it up. Too slow and cumbersome for me.

I just drag and drop and re-do at a fast rate. I can even keep multiple cards around to give them when they get bored. I rotate them. To do the same with CFW would be a crazy amount of time if it's even possible. It's even worse when you have multiple 3ds units like I do. If I did like you did, with 2 of my units, I would be looking at over 30-40 hours to get them setup and backed up. With GW, I spend less then 2 hours to get to the same point.

That is why I will continue to use these till they die or my kids are done with the 3DS's. I even bought another one on the exchange here a couple years ago as a spare.

 

[mikefor20]

Technically, you can do both. Massive storage. Maximum flexibility. cripshrine, check out the AIO pack from InScripted. The latest revision is on that ISO site AFAIK and it's got some cool options for setting up multiple CFW, Kid friendly configs, and its drag n drop install....

Why do fools act like just because you are running a GW that means you can't run the same CFW they are too? And more? WTH?

 

[kamesenin888]

Guys with the gateway in 11.7 there are no games that I cannot play, everything works as expected and it gives 0 errors, I dont know why you argue that much about it, just update the emunand 11.7 in frankenfirmware and you are good, it works very very well, in reality "LUMA IS THE BEST" is not what the OP wanted, he wanted to use his GW as he always did, ive Luma in a 3ds and I prefer the gateway one over Luma, its because of the 3ds files, if you dont like gateway dont comment in the thread because its not helping the OP

 

[Nirmonculus]

I actually have the a9lh gw and luma. Can I use the same instruction to transfer to b9s? I can't find any tutorials anywhere?

 

[Quantumcat]

I actually have the a9lh gw and luma. Can I use the same instruction to transfer to b9s? I can't find any tutorials anywhere?

If you used fastboot it is a bit tricky. If you did, and you can't find a relevant forum thread, I'd suggest making a new thread with all the info you can think of. I'm not personally sure of what the best way to do it is.

 

[The Catboy]

I actually have the a9lh gw and luma. Can I use the same instruction to transfer to b9s? I can't find any tutorials anywhere?

If you are just using normal A9LH, then just use this guide to backing up your saves (if they are important to you.) From there use this guide to upgrading to B9S
If you are using Gateway's fastboot, then I personally suggest avoiding any complicated method and just using NTRBoot to install B9S
https://3ds.hacks.guide/ntrboot
Although this might be better suited for it's own thread