Gaming Should I get Xenoblade Chronicles 2 or Bayonetta 2?

Which of the two?


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Bayonetta is the better action game. Xenoblade 2 is the better long-form RPG. Depends on your mood/preferences I guess.

Bayonetta 3 is confirmed for Switch, and 1+2 are definitely worth playing before that comes out if you haven't.
 
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Could you maybe be more specific what you want?

If you want a action based hack and slash brawler with lots of challenge, bayonetta is good, if you want a action adventure RPG then xenoblade 2 is good.

Though more people favor bayonetta over xenoblade 2 but like one said xenoblade 2 is exclusive, and while bayonetta one isn't the second one is for wii u and switch.

It helps if you could be more specific what type of games you prefer to play.:mellow:

This...

Asking us to help you decide between two completely different types of games without knowing ANYTHING of what you want is difficult. It's like asking my daughter what she wants for dinner...

Probably best to lookup gameplay or reviews on both games. The only thing your gonna get out of this thread are 2 world opinions based on player experience or ways to save money.
So really it just boggles down on your interest of playstyle b/c both games are extremely different it's just that xenoblade 2 requires a Switch to play it
I know that it's a personal choice, that's why I created this thread, I want to see your opinions on both games, cause I like both game styles but I don't have a preference on one over the other, as I've neither played a game like Bayonetta and neither like XC, the only rpg I've played are Zelda BOTW and the Mario and Luigi rpg games, so they're both extraneous for me :)
 

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the only rpg I've played are Zelda BOTW and the Mario and Luigi rpg games, so they're both extraneous for me :)
wait, BOTW is an rpg? zelda's fans can call it rpg as they want, but just because you can change your weapons and gears it doesn't make it rpg.
Xenoblade is a very rich and complicated rpg, unless you are a hard core rpg fan i doubt you will like the battle system, but if you like to try something new which will take you 100+ hours then get it.
Personally i think Bayonetta wasn't that a great of a game as people says, maybe it was the best action game on the Wii U and that's all, nice action with silly story and button smashing my way till the end is not my thing, and i think Bayonetta 1 > 2.
anyway you decide, Action or RPG.
 

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questi 2 giochi sono così differenti che non puoi compararli
se sei un giocatore casual, ti piace pigiare bottoni e l'azione frenetica (e ti annoi in fretta) prendi bayonetta
se preferisci un'avventura coinvolgente e rilassante ma più lenta xenoblade è la scelta giusta

in ogni caso ti consiglio di giocarli entrambi, puoi vendere il primo gioco che acquisti per comprare l'altro, ti consiglio di venderlo tramite subito.it o ebay (gamestop è un truffa), chiedi un aiuto a un parente per venderlo se non hai una macchina o sei minorenne, se rivendi di persona il gioco ti consiglio di registrare bayonetta 1 (il primo gioco è solo in digitale) su un account NNID separato così da poter vendere l'account assieme al gioco e non perdere valore

these two games are so different that you can't compare them

if you are more casual, button masher, fast action player go for bayonetta
if you want to try a slow relaxing adventure game xenoblade is the way

anyway I suggests you to play both, you can sell the first game to buy the second one (use sites like craiglist because gamestop is a scam), ask for help to a parent if you don't have car
 
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wait, BOTW is an rpg? zelda's fans can call it rpg as they want, but just because you can change your weapons and gears it doesn't make it rpg.
Xenoblade is a very rich and complicated rpg, unless you are a hard core rpg fan i doubt you will like the battle system, but if you like to try something new which will take you 100+ hours then get it.
Personally i think Bayonetta wasn't that a great of a game as people says, maybe it was the best action game on the Wii U and that's all, nice action with silly story and button smashing my way till the end is not my thing, and i think Bayonetta 1 > 2.
anyway you decide, Action or RPG.
It's an RPG, it's just not turn-based. Most action fantasy games could technically be classified as a Role Playing Game
 
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You asked to "choose my favourite", so I went along and picked Xenoblade 2. After all it is my absolute favourite Switch game.
But I think you are comparing apples and oranges.
Both are great games if you like their genre, and depending on your preferences Bayonetta 2 may end up being a better game for you, though, I don't know what type of games you like.
 
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It's an RPG, it's just not turn-based. Most action fantasy games could technically be classified as a Role Playing Game
It doesn't need to be q turn-based to be an RPG, I think many people missed used the term RPG so much.
Action-RPG like Nier and FFXV where you can upgrade and level up your character, BOTW have a very lite RPG elements like side quests and very few upgrades, tgat doesn't make it an RPG.
 
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You asked to "choose my favourite", so I went along and picked Xenoblade 2. After all it is my absolute favourite Switch game.
But I think you are comparing apples and oranges.
Both are great games if you like their genre, and depending on your preferences Bayonetta 2 may end up being a better game for you, though, I don't know what type of games you like.
It's okay, I'm asking for a subjective preference, it's obvious that you don't know my tastes. Thanks for the suggestion.
 

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It doesn't need to be q turn-based to be an RPG, I think many people missed used the term RPG so much.
Action-RPG like Nier and FFXV where you can upgrade and level up your character, BOTW have a very lite RPG elements like side quests and very few upgrades, tgat doesn't make it an RPG.
Given that clothing, stamina and health can be upgraded, and it has fleshed-out sidequests, I'd call it an RPG. It definitely doesn't have a significant amount of all the elements, but they're at least there
 
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Regardless of preferences and opinons xeno2 is going to keep you busy like BOTW in the long run. Its packed full of content and still getting more throughout the end of the year and side quests rewards aren't garbage like most jrpg's. Its not a game you will beat in 1 day.
Anyway if you must play Bayo2. then buy it first beat it in 1 or 2 days then re sell it for xeno 2 if money is tight. Thats probably your best option to experience them both
 

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Given that clothing, stamina and health can be upgraded, and it has fleshed-out sidequests, I'd call it an RPG. It definitely doesn't have a significant amount of all the elements, but they're at least there
well that is what an action adventure game is, usualy upgrading health , weapons and such, if the definition of rpg is solely about upgrading 2 or 3 things then almost every game is an rpg ...

to be an RPg imo you need to have stats, if your characters dont have stats orther than health and weapon then it isnt an rpg imo.
 

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To be an RPG you need a grenade and a rocket.
Actually, there's been this long discussion about what is an RPG, what is not, what are stat-heavy, are stat-heavy games really RPGs?, etc.

"RPG" is the a most weirdly and generically used term. AFAIK RPGs initially meant a game that is kind of stat-heavy, where you play a role and develop some kind of alignment, and you are judged by a dungeon master that guides you around the story and confirms if your attempts to do something are successful or not based on how your actions align with your character, on your stats, and on your luck, and said actions could even impact later on your alignment again. That is the original meaning, isn't it?

Western RPGs some times follow this idea, and at least simulate a little this "alignment" and "consequences" idea... But in Japan the games that are called RPGs are mostly just stat-heavy games with lots of exploration and story to them.

But then again, is just stat-heavy, exploration and story enough to call a game a JRPG? (for me, yes, but...)

Let's think of Castlevania SOTN? Is it an RPG? It is a stat-heavy backtracking platformer, also know as a Metroidvania, and it is quite similar to Super Metroid... Both have plenty exploration and story, but why isn't Super Metroid called an RPG also? It is also stat-heavy... Well, stat increases are based on fighting and finding items in Castlevania, while they are based on finding items only in Super Metroid.

You could say the same of... I don't know... TLOZ: ALTTP and Secret of Mana.
Both of them play quite similar IMHO, but Secret of Mana would be called an RPG.

I guess purists would say that a JRPG needs to be stat-heavy with at least some big part of the stats depending on level up by fighting... I am no purist, really.
 
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To be an RPG you need a grenade and a rocket.
Actually, there's been this long discussion about what is an RPG, what is not, what are stat-heavy, are stat-heavy games really RPGs?, etc.

"RPG" is the a most weirdly and generically used term. AFAIK RPGs initially meant a game that is kind of stat-heavy, where you play a role and develop some kind of alignment, and you are judged by a dungeon master that guides you around the story and confirms if your attempts to do something are successful or not based on how your actions align with your character, on your stats, and on your luck, and said actions could even impact later on your alignment again. That is the original meaning, isn't it?

Western RPGs some times follow this idea, and at least simulate a little this "alignment" and "consequences" idea... But in Japan the games that are called RPGs are mostly just stat-heavy games with lots of exploration and story to them.

But then again, is just stat-heavy, exploration and story enough to call a game a JRPG? (for me, yes, but...)

Let's think of Castlevania SOTN? Is it an RPG? It is a stat-heavy backtracking platformer, also know as a Metroidvania, and it is quite similar to Super Metroid... Both have plenty exploration and story, but why isn't Super Metroid called an RPG also? It is also stat-heavy... Well, stat increases are based on fighting and finding items in Castlevania, while they are based on finding items only in Super Metroid.

You could say the same of... I don't know... TLOZ: ALTTP and Secret of Mana.
Both of them play quite similar IMHO, but Secret of Mana would be called an RPG.

I guess purists would say that a JRPG needs to be stat-heavy with at least some big part of the stats depending on level up by fighting... I am no purist, really.
problem is nowadays every game has some sort of upgrades be it helth, weapons, shield and such , for instance doom 2016 you can get higher shield,hp and weapon improvements, but that is called an fps rpg? for me it isnt, nowadays is basicaly standard that every game has an upgrade along the way, so imo rpg should just be games where your character has stats and level up imo.

or else doom is an rpg,god of war is an rpg,every zelda game is an rpg and so on.
 

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problem is nowadays every game has some sort of upgrades be it helth, weapons, shield and such , for instance doom 2016 you can get higher shield,hp and weapon improvements, but that is called an fps rpg? for me it isnt, nowadays is basicaly standard that every game has an upgrade along the way, so imo rpg should just be games where your character has stats and level up imo.

or else doom is an rpg,god of war is an rpg,every zelda game is an rpg and so on.
True. And I agree those aren't RPGs.

But that is the reason RPG is such a weird term.

Would you say Xenoblade and BotW are the same genre? (whatever the name)
Hmm... Not sure, they have in common a lot of exploration and kind of a fantasy-theme, but not much more, I think.

Would you say Final Fantasy XV and Fallout 4 are the same genre?
I don't think so, again they share in common a lot of exploration, but not much else.

Would you say Zelda ALTTP and Secret of Mana are the same genre?
I would.

But I myself would call all of the above RPGs anyway.
 
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True. And I agree those aren't RPGs.

But that is the reason RPG is such a weird term.

Would you say Xenoblade and BotW are the same genre? (whatever the name)
Hmm... Not sure, they have in common a lot of exploration and kind of a fantasy-theme, but not much more, I think.

Would you say Final Fantasy XV and Fallout 4 are the same genre?
I don't think so, again they share in common a lot of exploration, but not much else.

Would you say Zelda ALTTP and Secret of Mana are the same genre?
I would.

But I myself would call all of the above RPGs anyway.
tbh i dont call any zelda an rpg becuase link has no stats just health and weapons.

xenoblade is a traditional rpg, stats everywhere, botw is like preety much any action adventure game you get health and weapons, link itself has no stats, weapons and armors are but items used in preety much any game.

for me xenoblade is an action rpg and all zeldas are action adventure games.

FFXV and Fallout 4 are both rpgs as you see again they both have stats besides weapons/armor and health. the only diference is playstyle.

again zelda games for me are all action adventure games since only health+armor/weapons are improved. secret of mana again as stats and its an action rpg much like xenoblade.
 

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