Hardware What computer is right for me?

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He's also wrong about the uni thing. Most WILL teach you a variety of languages.. AND you'll learn programming along the way.
Also...how much would an average developer make a week? Idk if this would work, but, I would love to become an official video game publisher
 
Also...how much would an average developer make a week? Idk if this would work, but, I would love to become an official video game publisher

I can't say for sure.. The averages I have seen are a bit high.. So I don't know what's realistic.
 
I've got a Logitech g710+ with browns. Picked it up for $25 at Walmart. I go up to 6 hours with intermittent 10 minute breaks every now and again. No issues. Not to mention it seems you've got "gaming keyboard" and "mechanical keyboard" mixed up. There are membrane and hybrid keyboards pushed off as gaming peripherals. You can buy "non-gaming" mechanical keyboards, but the price difference is negligible unless you go with the cheap caps.

If your hands are hurting after a while, you really need to rethink your positioning. An ergonomic keyboard won't fix that. It may help, but if your hands and wrists aren't sitting right you'll run into the same issue. Regardless of keyboard.

Last, the click you're hearing? Blue key caps.. They come in a variety.. And most keyboards give you an option.. Some like reds.. Some like blues.. Some prefer browns... Blacks.. Clear... It is preference. Like your disdain toward the "gaming" line.
I didn't say all "gaming" ones are mechanical. They ARE the most common though, as the others are way more expensive. What I'm saying is basically that anything that is considered "gaming" is actually overpriced for something you can get way cheaper and even better! As for the "positioning", I have the right positioning as I've worked as a typer for quite a while and correct positioning is necessary, but that's not the problem. Gaming keyboards force your hands to be parallel rather than having the wrists stationary and arcing the rest of the hands, making it next to impossible to type for long times if you need to without breaks. When you say up to 6 hours, is it 6 hours of TYPING or 6 hours of being a computer and occasionally playing a game with just the WASD keys? Because those two are COMPLETELY different. Finally, for the caps, the best ones are the springs the old keyboards have, harder to clean, sure, but way less clicky and loud.

I need alot of time to think about this...
You got a lot of time to:P

He's also wrong about the uni thing. Most WILL teach you a variety of languages.. AND you'll learn programming along the way.

He is right about curriculum though. Before you register for any college or university.. Check the curriculum and make sure it fits your needs.
How am I wrong? I didn't go to game making uni for that reason after I looked the curriculum of over half of Europe's universities and I even know actual devs from companies like Activision and Blizzard that have told me they learned way more before Uni by themselves than when they studied game making.

Also...how much would an average developer make a week? Idk if this would work, but, I would love to become an official video game publisher
MOST companies that will hire you will pay you PER job, meaning if you aren't assigned anything you don't get paid and if you have an assignment, your pay can differ depending on how much you need to do, but average is 85K$ a year in medium-sized studios.
 
Trust me, "gaming" ANYTHING is overpriced crap! It doesn't really make using your computer easier at all and it's a PAIN to type a lot of text, as they aren't made ergonomically, but rather with just looks in mind. And let's not forget about all the annoyance with the color caps and how the only good one (brown) is priced starting at almost 200$! Also, most "gaming" keyboards nowadays don't even come with a numpad unless you pay for an even more expensive one, so it's a complete waste. Get a good ergonomic keyboard and it will get you a LONG way, I highly suggest a Logitech or Quest one from around 2010, won't cost more than 60$ or so tops while they are very comfortable, making long sessions way less stressful and you will never have to experience hand cramps or anything like you probably will with other keyboards. Same goes for mouse, don't go for anything that costs more than 15$, the only things you really need on a mouse, be it for gaming or general usage, are the left/right click, wheel, wheel click (some mouses don't have that) and forwards/backwards buttons on the side (those for browsing). Anything more than that is a waste and so are wireless mouses, cable for the win!:P
I do agree with a lot of that. I have a mid-range backlit Logitech keyboard on my desktop (slim style) and it's all around a really good value. Meanwhile my old overpriced Roccat keyboard was big and bulky and the black paint started wearing off several of the keys after only a couple of years of use. The Logitech keyboard that cost a third of the price and is way smaller and lighter actually seems to be better quality. And the Roccat wasn't even mechanical (not something I care about personally, but a good mechanical keyboard would have actually cost less)
I do miss the macro keys though. I didn't use them a whole lot since I don't play games that often, but they did come in handy when I did play games, so that's one pro in the favor of gaming keyboards.

Very few keyboards are actually ergonomic. A truly ergonomic keyboard would have to be vertical and split in half. Those do exist, but they are certainly not for most people. Most keyboards are using a standard layout, which, gaming or not is not the best ergonomically. Just because it's a gaming keyboard doesn't make it worse ergonomically. They're more or less all the same anyway with a few notable exceptions (such as mechanical vs non-mechanical, slim vs full size keys, numpad vs no numpad)

Numpads, to be honest, are nearly useless and I can understand people sacrificing the numpad to gain desk space. Unless you have a job that involves typing a lot of numbers and not a whole lot else it's probably faster to use the number row than move your hand to the numpad to type a few digits and then back again. Most of the keyboards I have used have had a numpad but I barely use it and I never found myself missing it when I was using a keyboard that didn't have it.

As for mice, just get a wired one that feels good in your hand and isn't some cheap $2 shit and you're usually good. Those who play a lot of MMORPGs will have more use for macro keys on the mouse since they can be mapped to skills/magic/items to use them more quickly, which can sometimes mean the difference between life and death. Most people probably won't have a need for them.
I still have a MX518 on my desktop and feel no need to replace it. It's not super high DPI, but it really doesn't need to be, and the inflated DPI on some mice is a complete lie anyway as the sensors aren't actually that high DPI. I believe it was quite a bit more than $15 though.
 
Awesome, great deal!
As I said before, get a GTX 1050ti lp 4GB from MSI to pop in there later and it'll probably do everything you'd ever need it to. Just be aware that the 7400 IS just a bit below midrange, but that's the tradeoff for getting a deal on a prebuilt
 
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I do agree with a lot of that. I have a mid-range backlit Logitech keyboard on my desktop (slim style) and it's all around a really good value. Meanwhile my old overpriced Roccat keyboard was big and bulky and the black paint started wearing off several of the keys after only a couple of years of use. The Logitech keyboard that cost a third of the price and is way smaller and lighter actually seems to be better quality. And the Roccat wasn't even mechanical (not something I care about personally, but a good mechanical keyboard would have actually cost less)
I do miss the macro keys though. I didn't use them a whole lot since I don't play games that often, but they did come in handy when I did play games, so that's one pro in the favor of gaming keyboards.

Very few keyboards are actually ergonomic. A truly ergonomic keyboard would have to be vertical and split in half. Those do exist, but they are certainly not for most people. Most keyboards are using a standard layout, which, gaming or not is not the best ergonomically. Just because it's a gaming keyboard doesn't make it worse ergonomically. They're more or less all the same anyway with a few notable exceptions (such as mechanical vs non-mechanical, slim vs full size keys, numpad vs no numpad)

Numpads, to be honest, are nearly useless and I can understand people sacrificing the numpad to gain desk space. Unless you have a job that involves typing a lot of numbers and not a whole lot else it's probably faster to use the number row than move your hand to the numpad to type a few digits and then back again. Most of the keyboards I have used have had a numpad but I barely use it and I never found myself missing it when I was using a keyboard that didn't have it.

As for mice, just get a wired one that feels good in your hand and isn't some cheap $2 shit and you're usually good. Those who play a lot of MMORPGs will have more use for macro keys on the mouse since they can be mapped to skills/magic/items to use them more quickly, which can sometimes mean the difference between life and death. Most people probably won't have a need for them.
I still have a MX518 on my desktop and feel no need to replace it. It's not super high DPI, but it really doesn't need to be, and the inflated DPI on some mice is a complete lie anyway as the sensors aren't actually that high DPI. I believe it was quite a bit more than $15 though.
Currently, the keyboard I'm using is this and with it I'm using a VERY basic Genius mouse, nothing fancy, only partially ergonomic, but they are both comfortable to use despite being more than a decade old (mouse is from 1998:P). I have an actually ergonomic AND silent keyboard I never use though that is very high end, but has nondetachable wrist pads and I don't have enough space for it. You should always get what you feel most comfortable with and even regular keyboards can be better than "gaming" ones. For example, I use mine for heavy gaming without any issues, but when I go to an internet cafe or something where you can use gaming rigs, their keyboards are extremely uncomfortable and they most often have the buttons packed together very close to one another, making playing games or even typing with those a hassle. Most "gaming" keyboards are for those who use only the WASD keys... As for numpads, you might get more desk space, but you can't have a good keyboard without one, especially if you try to develop stuff like games or play them, as MANY programs use them for advanced shortcuts and a LOT of old games from 1996-1998 use the numpad as DEFAULT and without it you can't even reach the settings to change the mapping (eg: original and first remake versions of FFVII).

@ToonGoomba here's a good deal that just popped up, if you want to buy a GPU later:

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/382183248670
That is seriously one hell of a deal! That will do a lot more than just play games or run Unity and if you change the GPU to a 1050Ti or something equivalent, even the latest Cryengine and it's games can work!
 

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