Hacking Is this "jailbreak service" legit?

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You should go and ask pbanj to temp hardmod your 3ds its alot cheaper what you are going to pay for.
 
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No, it's correct, it's just not used in the 3ds community.
no jailbreak is a correct definition.
"modify (a smartphone or other electronic device) to remove restrictions imposed by the manufacturer or operator, e.g. to allow the installation of unauthorized software"
Actually it's not. To jailbreak implies that one is breaking out of a jailed environment (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeBSD_jail), which we are not doing with the 3DS. One jailbreaks an iPhone or a PS3 because they are leveraging an exploit that executes code outside of the jail.
 
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Not to split hairs, but jailbreaking involves breaking of a jail, and also involves privilege escalation, neither of which are the case with the 3ds.

Actually it's not. To jailbreak implies that one is breaking out of a jailed environment (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeBSD_jail), which we are not doing with the 3DS. One jailbreaks an iPhone or a PS3 because they are leveraging an exploit that executes code outside of the jail.

Really? Can you run your own code on a 3ds without running a CFW via exploiting something? No, you can't. It is a jailed device. Escalation is something else entirely. Many iPhone jailbreaks existed without the need for escalation, but there are some that enable task for pid0 <- that's escalation and not required of a jailbreak. 3DS doesn't need any escalation at all. Once we can run our own code, we already have full control.
 
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Really? Can you run your own code on a 3ds without running a CFW via exploiting something? No, you can't.
What is userland homebrew for $200, Alex.

Bottom line is that it isn't jailbreaking, and this term shouldn't be used as a catchall as it's misleading. We don't call hacking a 3DS "rooting", do we? Nope, because it's not rooting, but would be more accurate than calling it "jailbreaking". Also, I never said anything about privilege escalation, just that a jailbreak is when one leverages an exploit to execute arbitrary code outside of a jailed environment, which is not the case with the 3DS.
 
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I'm not sure, but this site charges money for installing programs that are released with a free distribution and usage in mind, and thus for like 99% breaks some lincences. You "can" use their service, but it is kind of unethical and dirty imho.
 

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I'm not sure, but this site charges money for installing programs that are released with a free distribution and usage in mind, and thus for like 99% breaks some lincences. You "can" use their service, but it is kind of unethical and dirty imho.
Eh, I wouldn't call it unethical since they're just charging for the service. It might be exorbitant, but it's kinda like paying someone to mow your lawn with your own lawnmower.
 
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Really? Can you run your own code on a 3ds without running a CFW via exploiting something? No, you can't. It is a jailed device. Escalation is something else entirely. Many iPhone jailbreaks existed without the need for escalation, but there are some that enable task for pid0 <- that's escalation and not required of a jailbreak. 3DS doesn't need any escalation at all. Once we can run our own code, we already have full control.


My fault. The jailbreaking methods I knew of did typically require escalation so that's a misunderstanding on my end. As was already stated though jailbreaking is still not correct for how 3ds worI'd.
 

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What is userland homebrew for $200, Alex.

Bottom line is that it isn't jailbreaking, and this term shouldn't be used as a catchall as it's misleading. We don't call hacking a 3DS "rooting", do we? Nope, because it's not rooting, but would be more accurate than calling it "jailbreaking". Also, I never said anything about privilege escalation, just that a jailbreak is when one leverages an exploit to execute arbitrary code outside of a jailed environment, which is not the case with the 3DS.
Userland homebrew still requires an exploit. You have no clue what you're talking about and what you say is not the case, is EXACTLY the case.
 

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Userland homebrew still requires an exploit. You have no clue what you're talking about and what you say is not the case, is EXACTLY the case.
...wut? I never said it didn't require an exploit. You're the one that said nothing could be ran without custom firmware. Did you totally forget what you said or something? Also, how is this response relevant to what a jailbreak is? Seems to me that I sussed you and you're trying to save face by saying I don't know what I'm talking about when indeed it is you that doesn't know what you're talking about. I mean, the term "jailbreak" kinda implies what it means right there in the name. It's OK to be ignorant on a subject, but don't think your ignorance is true because you're too egotistical to admit to being wrong. Again, when a 3DS is hacked it isn't jailbroken because the user does not break out of a jail. Why do I have to keep explaining this? Seriously, lrn2infosec.
 

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Why do I have to keep explaining this?
That's my question. You can't run your own code without exploiting a vulnerability first. It's a locked system. As in, locked in a jail cell. By the time you're able to run yourr own code, you have broken out of jail. It's jailbroken. That's how this is relevant. Sorry I had to feed it to you with a spoon. You're wrong. Period.
 
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Jail doesn't mean what you think it does in this sense.
Ok then, smart guy. Tell me the difference between getting unsigned code to run on a 3ds, and doing the same to an iPhone. I'm waiting...

EDIT: and just so you understand, ANY iOS "jailbreak" app (unofficial) can run on a non-jailbroken device with impactor. The only difference is that impactor actually signs the app with a legit cert. How much do you want to bet 3DS homebrew would do the same if we had a way to sign them? Oh, wait... it's already been proven with b9s and Rosalina (since b9s allows us to know a proper signing key).
 
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Really don't feel like dragging this out anymore, as it's really starting to turn into more of an argument (and it's kinda off topic too) but you might want to actually read the wiki link that was referenced above some posts back. Running unsigned code has zero to do with "jails" in the case of 3ds as the 3ds doesn't even HAVE the concept of jails.
 
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