UK police warns those who post "hate crime" and threatens users with "criminal offences"

[Nightwish]

UK is quickly becoming another Sweden.

Oh no, not Sweden! One of the countries with less crime in the world, one of the best economies, one of the best education systems, one of the best health systems where no one goes bankrupt for being sick, where you can't be fired because the quarterly reports needs to be a bit higher, where women are respected and paid accordingly, yeah, it's a hellish place to live.

Ya all need to read some personal accounts about how it feels to be harassed all day, every day, because we're otherwise too blind to imagine living with our white male privilege. Been there, grew up.

 

[Pacheko17]

Oh no, not Sweden! One of the countries with less crime in the world, one of the best economies, one of the best education systems, one of the best health systems where no one goes bankrupt for being sick, where you can't be fired because the quarterly reports needs to be a bit higher, where women are respected and paid accordingly, yeah, it's a hellish place to live.

Ya all need to read some personal accounts about how it feels to be harassed all day, every day, because we're otherwise too blind to imagine living with our white male privilege. Been there, grew up.

You can keep lying to yourself all you want, this changes nothing.
I'd much rather have my country which is often regarded as a shit hole than to go to Sweden and get bombed or mugged.
Also, welfare states don't work, they always collapse and Sweden is no exception.
"Women are respected"
they aren't in the USA? I'm pretty sure they are, feminists are twisting the meaning of respect. There is no wage gap too, you're delusional.

Also, there is no white male privilege, if there was, why are south african boers getting killed? Why am I not rich?
Stop being stupid.
Brazil had the same system as Sweden for 13 years, full on socialism bullshit, and guess what? It didn't work, these ideologies never will work, they may be good in the beginning but the cracks show immediately, with these crooked politicians and their stupid ideas.

"Harassed every day" huh? Most of the shit these pussies complain about is far from harassment, you haven't grown up at all, you've become brainwashed.

 

[Saiyan Lusitano]

Oh no, not Sweden! One of the countries with less crime in the world, one of the best economies, one of the best education systems, one of the best health systems where no one goes bankrupt for being sick, where you can't be fired because the quarterly reports needs to be a bit higher, where women are respected and paid accordingly, yeah, it's a hellish place to live.

Ya all need to read some personal accounts about how it feels to be harassed all day, every day, because we're otherwise too blind to imagine living with our white male privilege. Been there, grew up.

Citizens in UK and other countries where weapons for self-defence are banned/illegal just have to disregard the police's threat and carry one for their own protection. It's nonsense that the police is pushing people to end up dead on the streets without any possibility of fighting back.

 

[Pacheko17]

Citizens in UK and other countries where weapons for self-defence are banned/illegal just have to disregard the police's threat and carry one for their own protection. It's nonsense that the police is pushing people to end up dead on the streets without any possibility of fighting back.

This dude is probably against people being armed because "guns kill people reee"

Most armed states in Brazil are the safest ones, why would you rob a person that can fight back?
Dad has a gun, we feel a lot safer with it than without it.

 

[H1B1Esquire]

Not going to look through every page, sorry if it's been brought up, but did they purposely use bad grammar (your-you're) to try to get people to "spew hate speech"? Regarding the knives, with all the CCTV, do they really need to push that law? This seems a little silly and will only push people to think of creative was to defend themselves.....or maybe this is the first step in trying to make that one dude build a practical laser gun? Besides, people do this (carry weapons to defend themselves, in most cases) because what's stopping a 6'6'', 300+lbs, MMA wanna-be drunk dude with a broken beer bottle from violating you until help can "arrive"?

Cars can be weapons

"Britain will ban sales of new gasoline and diesel cars starting in 2040 as part of a bid to clean up the country's air."

http://money.cnn.com/2017/07/26/news/uk-bans-gasoline-diesel-engines-2040/index.html

It's a step toward "cars=/=weapons"; forks will be replaced with rubber sporks in 2050. Sales of sharpened chopsticks will skyrocket by 2051.

 

[WeedZ]

This dude is probably against people being armed because "guns kill people reee"

Most armed states in Brazil are the safest ones, why would you rob a person that can fight back?
Dad has a gun, we feel a lot safer with it than without it.

Brazil has the highest murder rate in the world

Edit. I'm sorry. One of the highest, they made it to 14th

 

[sarkwalvein]

Brazil has the highest murder rate in the world

Edit. I'm sorry. One of the highest, they made it to 14th

But have you lived in Brazil to check if it is truly that bad?
I am sure Pacheko hasn't lived in Sweden either.

 

[Subtle Demise]

If free speech is being able to send death threats and insult people, I don't want of free speech.

Move to Iran

 

[MadMageKefka]

This entire thing in a nutshell....

 

[TheDarkGreninja]

Hate speech is asinine, but so are threats of violence against another person. Why the government should feel it control what other says however, is bullshit. Theresa May has the Tories' support up her ass.

So someone shouldn't be held accountable for what they say?
Words can cause as much distress as actions.

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How do you define hate speech though? The british law says that it's about derogatory speeches towards people of different ethnicity or sex, but that can be interpreted in many ways. If I say "kill all muslims" I should be prosecuted, but if I say "Islam is dangerous" I shouldn't. Yet this could still be seen as hate speech.

one is the attack of an individual.
the other is an attack of an ideology.

It's not vague at all.

 

[sarkwalvein]

So someone shouldn't be held accountable for what they say?
Words can cause as much distress as actions.

AFAIK some girl got into jail in the USA not so long ago for convincing and pusing someone to commit suicide by telephone...

 

[Subtle Demise]

So someone shouldn't be held accountable for what they say?
Words can cause as much distress as actions.

That's wrong.

 

[WeedZ]

But have you lived in Brazil to check if it is truly that bad?
I am sure Pacheko hasn't lived in Sweden either.

If I had a choice, I'd go to sweden. In comparison Brazil has about 2400% the amount of murder per capita.

 

[sarkwalvein]

If I had a choice, I'd go to sweden. In comparison Brazil has about 2400% the amount of murder per capita.

Yeah I know, I can't talk for Sweden myself, but I live in Germany.
And for the past year or so I've heard many people talking out of their asses how "Germany is burning"/whatever, and that is nothing but a big lie.
That is why I say, people talk a lot as if they knew how life is where they don't live, but most of the time they just talk BS.

 

[TheDarkGreninja]

But that's not all! Hard-Core Christian/Catholic/Muslim citizens will start asking the police
to censor things like Science, free sexual orientation, and anything that violates
their beliefs. Of course, they won't listen to them, but just imagine the chaos!

That's a pretty ignorant statement.

Please dont conflate all religous people with the church during the dark ages.

Because, Islam was never the centre of knowledge or anything,

AFAIK some girl got into jail in the USA not so long ago for convincing and pusing someone to commit suicide by telephone...

So murder is only valid if you personally kill them?

 

[Pacheko17]

Brazil has the highest murder rate in the world

Edit. I'm sorry. One of the highest, they made it to 14th

I'm tired of explaining this but Brazil is pretty big, most of the murders happen in places like Rio.
The rest of the country is absolutely fine and much much better than Sweden and it's migrants.

I'm alive, all the people I've known are alive and no one I know has been robbed, besides my grandmother... on a trip to Argentina.

 

[sarkwalvein]

So murder is only valid if you personally kill them?

Actually, judges from the USA think otherwise.
On the one side I see many Americans stating "words" can't be punished, but they sent this girl (righlty IMHO) to jail.

 

[Saiyan Lusitano]

I'm tired of explaining this but Brazil is pretty big, most of the murders happen in places like Rio.
The rest of the country is absolutely fine and much much better than Sweden and it's migrants.

I'm alive, all the people I've known are alive and no one I know has been robbed, besides my grandmother... on a trip to Argentina.

And Brazil isn't an island like UK is.

 

[MadMageKefka]

Words can cause as much distress as actions.

This is the problem with people today... Those are NOTHING alike. If someone is physically bullying you, you cant stop them with anything besides outside help or a weapon. They are using sheer force to overpower you. When someone says something mean on the internet, you can choose to ignore them, you can block the person, you can quit the website, or you could just quit the entire internet since you're such a sensitive little bitch.... (you, plural. Not you, specifically)

People need to stop being so damn thinly-skinned and learn that words cant really hurt. If you let them, then I'd say the problem lies with your insecurities and not so much the people pointing them out.

 

[TheDarkGreninja]

Actually, judges from the USA think otherwise.
On the one side I see many Americans stating "words" can't be punished, but they sent this girl (righlty IMHO) to jail.

I'm finding it hard to pinpoint your opinion on this.