Hardware Anyone else not updating Switch firmware?

[Futurdreamz]

I know it sounds a little crazy but I've got a N3DS, purchased as SM3DLand Bundle, which went straight from the box to a freezer bag. Well, first I removed the backplate while wearing vinyl gloves, so I could get the microSD out. But since then, it has been inside the freezer bag and my skin has barely touched it, if at all. I ran it through plailect's guide all while inside that freezer bag, and game adds through freeshop and FBI since. One day, when nothing else worthwhile will ever be released for 3DS again, I'll take it out of the freezer bag, and put it back in its box. And when/if the other, identical N3DS I currently use every day ever breaks, I'll get out the untouched one.

You were right. That does sound crazy.

 

[Hanafuda]

You were right. That does sound crazy.

Told ya.

 

[Jayro]

I kept my firmware on my 3DS on the golden 9.2U until hacks were more than just homebrew channel. But if I remember right with the Wii U, Nintendo will force everyone's Switch up to update upon setup to whatever firmware is the latest. If they were smart, they'd just make the firmware updates modular and without interaction from the user.

 

[Bonovox40]

I got an original 3ds for my birthday a couple months after it came out. Had 1.0fw on it. I decided to keep it in storage until the system got hacked. (Didn't mind because I had tons of DS games I was still working on). By the time there was a usable hack (Gateway) the 3ds XL was out.
Ended up selling the 3ds to an eBay collector for the going rate of a new 3dsxl. In the end, having a low fw didn't matter. Just needed to stay where people were recommending and things would be fine.
In the Switch's case, I will update but not often or quickly. If an exploit is found, I will hopefully still be a version or 2 behind the discovery point. I'm guessing we can enjoy it for awhile without stressing.

 

[godreborn]

I have a ps4 metal slime edition which was only released in Japan. I was waiting on 3.55, but I updated in order to grab a dq theme from the JP store. I kinda regret doing that, but any exploit is most likely going to be for the latest firmware or else u'll probably be locked out of newer games. there was/is a way around this on the vita, but that only works with some games.

 

[McWhiters9511]

depends on what the update includes or if they are mandatory to play the console

 

[thorasgar]

I got an original 3ds for my birthday a couple months after it came out. Had 1.0fw on it. I decided to keep it in storage until the system got hacked. (Didn't mind because I had tons of DS games I was still working on). By the time there was a usable hack (Gateway) the 3ds XL was out.
Ended up selling the 3ds to an eBay collector for the going rate of a new 3dsxl. In the end, having a low fw didn't matter. Just needed to stay where people were recommending and things would be fine.
In the Switch's case, I will update but not often or quickly. If an exploit is found, I will hopefully still be a version or 2 behind the discovery point. I'm guessing we can enjoy it for awhile without stressing.

The problem was if you already had an XL certain games forced an update before Gateway was released. I remember because I bought the boys some games for their birthdays and tried to convince them to wait a bit when I saw they games forced and update but they would have non of that.

 

[joacosur15]

Maybe web browser is hidden in the system settings, they said mii maker is still there just under system settings, or maybe you have to download from eshop. Who knows what is hidden under system settings if they moved mii maker.

Or another youtubehax, it had the outdated webkit..

 

[KingVamp]

I do agree, since games will be pay online, I will only update, if a game forces me too. So, I'll be more lax with the updates. Then again, some games may still be able to play online for free.

I wonder how harsh the updates will be. Will be like the Wii U or more like the 3DS?

 

[The Catboy]

I only hack my systems under a few circumstances.
1: The generation is long dead and thus my actions will not effect sales.
2: The system is extreme successful and it's several years into the life of the system. Thus they've already made enough profits.
3: I am extremely dirt poor and everything else failed me.
Thus I will be updating my system.

 

[Deleted-355425]

Mines staying on day one firmware for a decent flashcart.

 

[thorasgar]

I have this sinking feeling that part of the reason for this separate phone app for online functions is to force people to update.

 

[gnmmarechal]

I kept my firmware on my 3DS on the golden 9.2U until hacks were more than just homebrew channel. But if I remember right with the Wii U, Nintendo will force everyone's Switch up to update upon setup to whatever firmware is the latest. If they were smart, they'd just make the firmware updates modular and without interaction from the user.

IIRC, they cannot do that, legally. I might be wrong, but I believe this is true.

 

[Deleted User]

Sooo, nobody is going to comment on how the Switch requires an update to access the SD card? I mean, that is probably managed in some low level execution, probably as soon as it checks firmware version against online version, so any online exploits will be force patched as soon as an update comes out and even then if you are connected to internet on the switch, you won't be able to use any exploits regarding the SD card with the acknowledgement of the update. They cracking down hard

 

[Xzi]

I have this sinking feeling that part of the reason for this separate phone app for online functions is to force people to update.

Well with the separate paid online service, it'll certainly be a choice between cracking your system and playing online. At least early on.

 

[Deleted-355425]

Sooo, nobody is going to comment on how the Switch requires an update to access the SD card? I mean, that is probably managed in some low level execution, probably as soon as it checks firmware version against online version, so any online exploits will be force patched as soon as an update comes out and even then if you are connected to internet on the switch, you won't be able to use any exploits regarding the SD card with the acknowledgement of the update. They cracking down hard

I'm not concerned, you just use a dns type deal to block the update server like in the wii u, if it can't find a update then it can't make you download one to patch an exploit. This will be a console with a flashcart so don't worry about SD access

 

[Jayro]

I can hardly wait for the chinese to flood the masrket with Switch flash cards. Even if they're a bit longer to fit the chips they need.

 

[Bladexdsl]

I'm not concerned, you just use a dns type deal to block the update server like in the wii u

and how will you block the update from the game card?

 

[zoogie]

You're assuming they'll ever add a web browser.

Realistically I see them just skipping the feature entirely because it's really only used as an entry point these days

This. And the fact they want you to use a smartphone as a multiplayer accessory suggests Nintendo probably thinks everyone has a smartphone with them nowadays, and thus, doesn't need a browser in their game machine too.

Keep updating it until a dev says not to. If you actually want to play the switch.

In the initial release timeframe, hackers won't be able to peek inside the system so they will have no idea if exploits are being patched or not.

It's assumed that for those buying a system and not updating, they will have a second system that they do update and play with etc. This has a $600 starting price tag so I don't think many will do this obviously.

 

[Deleted-355425]

and how will you block the update from the game card?

No idea, that's dependent on the exploit that is found first but I'd be happy with a sky3ds type flashcart to be honest.