- you ever ate chicken you murderous bastard?
- you are an animal, nothing more than an advanced monkey
- and you are participating to my understanding so i take it you read the whole post of mine, not only the animal part.
Do You Believe In God?
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Actually, it's OK for us to do it. We've just choosen not to do it to live in a "safe" society (the so-called social contract: I don't kill you; you don't kill me).
However, being gay does not harm anyone. Why not letting our non-harmful instincts out for a better life?
Sodomy is absolutely natural and, in a world where soon there will be no room for anyone else, something to be promoted. I wonder how you can't get it.
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as in 30 years study to religion! so mind your words and really read backwards, kind sir.
i was born a christian, been that for about 20 years without any doubts, tried other religions to find out if there's one that is really able to give me a moral god, to give me a superior god.. but after 10 years of search i found out that all religions fail to these standards they claim to have... i just took out the part of being gay to prove my point, i can give you about 30 reasons all 3 major religions fail the standard given you can't answer different when you know all facts around it... so you can argue with me if you like... but i warn you it won't get any prettier than it already is... and i know a lot of people will be offended by the words i will use...
i really don't think that will do you nor me any good.
but if you wanna try me, go try...
to give you a hint about how it goes read a few pages back in this thread what i already said...
you can choose history, creation, other religions, perfect god, the future, the differences between the 3 religions, commons between the 3 religions, morals of sex, morals of food, morals of killing...
on all these subjects all 3 religions fail, they all contradict themselves one way or another...
just defending at least 20% of the people to easy answers given bay a book that's at least 1400 years old:koran. or 2007 years old: bible, or at least 4000 years: thora and the profets about 2300 years if i'm not mistaken.
looking through all the citations, none of them were from a scientific journal of any sort. So why should I trust wikipedia?
I can see how you missed the scientific journals and otherwise peer-reviewed sources, given you only took literally two minutes to look through them.
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Why does religion always have to go on hating the gays? Seriously, mind your own f-cking business.
Why do you even need a god in that case? If you can try a few, find one that fits your moral values, then you obviously don't need anyone to tell you what's right and wrong...
their proof, just no scientific explanation.
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a good 90% were the same source thats why.
because it's not that easy to quit a religion since your parents see it as failing! so you try to find a way to balance in life...
http://www.yalescientific.org/2012/03/do-animals-exhibit-homosexuality/
http://www.news-medical.net/news/2006/10/23/1500-animal-species-practice-homosexuality.aspx
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How much explanation do you want? They're primates fucking primates of the same sex. It's quite straightforward really.
I mean, is it becuase of a mental issue or is it an actual evolutionary trait? Its like a male parrot only having a father, due to this they turn out gay.
Last time I checked, "all the citations" wasn't the same thing as "90% of the citations." If you looked at the other 10%, the bibliography above the references, or the actual source that's 90%, you would have found plenty of peer-reviewed sources and sources from scientific journals. It has been very much demonstrated that humans are far from the only species to engage in homosexual behavior. This isn't even controversial. Homosexual behavior is very much natural.
It should also be noted that it doesn't matter whether or not humans are the only species to engage in homosexual behavior. Whether or not it's natural and/or exhibited by other animal species is irrelevant to the morality of it. If one is going to argue that homosexuality is immoral or wrong, he or she needs to provide reasoning other than "it's unnatural."
You can see my post above about some possibilities with regard to biological predispositions to homosexual behavior in humans. However, the mechanisms behind how a human or non-human animal becomes homosexual has no bearing on whether or not it's moral.
You obvously didnt understand my post. It has been studied that if a parrot/macaw who lost their mother, grows up with their father, they are likely to be gay.
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