Hacking So shouldn't we call OOT a primary exploit?

[uribemaster]

Pretty sure even web based exploits require you to have a file on the root of your sd card. By this logic nothing really is primary.

You had to download the exploit itself! That logic is illogical

 

[The Catboy]

Not arguing but, if powersaves is a hack, shouldn't Nintendo be raining lawsuits on it? Considering their draconian stance on hacking (not saying that's weird or anything)?

Powersaves fall under the same grey zone as Cheat devices and flashcarts. They don't technically use any copyrighted content and though are completely legal to sell and own. The legal situation falls on behalf of the users.

 

[Tenshi_Okami]

You had to download the exploit itself! That logic is illogical

Your logic is illogical

The thing you download is only the executable

An exploit is a bug, or failure in a app, where someone abuses of it to do either good stuff, or malicious stuff.

 

[uribemaster]

Your logic is illogical

The thing you download is only the executable

An exploit is a bug, or failure in a app, where someone abuses of it to do either good stuff, or malicious stuff.

I never said my post was logical. This is what happens when people look too much into things

 

[Seriel]

freakyhax = buying freakyforms
oot3dhax = buying game + powersaves/having hacked 3ds.

freaky is primary, you just need to buy the game.
End of story.
Goodnight.

 

[zes]

This thread is a fun read. There is a good point in here, that oothax is way more nice a secondary exploit than one that's an eShop-only game or a recent-enough cart where saves are encrypted -- those lesser secondaries that require you to already have a working entry point on that very 3ds to set them up have relatively less utility.

 

[Halvorsen]

Not arguing but, if powersaves is a hack, shouldn't Nintendo be raining lawsuits on it? Considering their draconian stance on hacking (not saying that's weird or anything)?

Just like how they sued Gateway and the original R4 team, yes yes?

 

[Seriel]

Just like how they sued Gateway and the original R4 team, yes yes?

Well didn't they manage to get R4s illegal?

 

[Halvorsen]

Well didn't they manage to get R4s illegal?

Welp, I just saw one retail at Target a week ago.

 

[Seriel]

Welp, I just saw one retail at Target a week ago.

I think it depends on the country.

 

[Halvorsen]

I think it depends on the country.

I guess it's still legal in US.

 

[Swiftloke]

Welp, I just saw one retail at Target a week ago.

Seriously? Where?

 

[gamesquest1]

But guy's is ninjhax primary?

 

[Halvorsen]

Seriously? Where?

United States, Florida. In fact, Target isn't the only place I see then, they're sometimes in the bargain bin or controller section of Wal-Mart.

 

[Swiftloke]

United States, Florida. In fact, Target isn't the only place I see then, they're sometimes in the bargain bin or controller section of Wal-Mart.

Huh, I live in Florida! I'll have to go looking. What aisle did you find them in?

 

[Halvorsen]

Huh, I live in Florida! I'll have to go looking. What aisle did you find them in?

Y'know, the electronics/gaming area. The stores probably aren't the same, but in my case it's near the original DS games across from the New 3DS XL display unit.

 

[Swiftloke]

Looks like I've got some digging to do thanks again!

 

[loco365]

Welp, I just saw one retail at Target a week ago.

I legit need to see a photo of this. I had no idea that stores even sold R4s.

 

[Ricken]

I'm definitely hunting through Target this week for an r4

on topic; OoTHax is a secondary because the game
A. Needs to store a payload in the save (That Cubic-Ninja guy is officially a mongol)
B. Needs something else to install it. OoTHax is the only secondary that Powersaves works for, But you are using Powersaves to install the exploit. Powersaves just happen to be this something else
Guy: "But you don't need another hacked system!"
Ricken: "Because OoT doesn't use per-cart encryption. Every other secondary does, so OoT is the mongol of the secondaries... but you are still using something else to modify your save data. Secondary. End of discussion."

 

[XavyrrVaati]

mfw this thread:

Spoiler

Why exactly do you care? It fits the definition. Requiring Powersave is no different than requiring homebrew access.