Hacking So shouldn't we call OOT a primary exploit?

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Not arguing but, if powersaves is a hack, shouldn't Nintendo be raining lawsuits on it? Considering their draconian stance on hacking (not saying that's weird or anything)?
Powersaves fall under the same grey zone as Cheat devices and flashcarts. They don't technically use any copyrighted content and though are completely legal to sell and own. The legal situation falls on behalf of the users.
 

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Your logic is illogical

The thing you download is only the executable

An exploit is a bug, or failure in a app, where someone abuses of it to do either good stuff, or malicious stuff.
I never said my post was logical. This is what happens when people look too much into things :P
 

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freakyhax = buying freakyforms
oot3dhax = buying game + powersaves/having hacked 3ds.

freaky is primary, you just need to buy the game.
End of story.
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This thread is a fun read. There is a good point in here, that oothax is way more nice a secondary exploit than one that's an eShop-only game or a recent-enough cart where saves are encrypted -- those lesser secondaries that require you to already have a working entry point on that very 3ds to set them up have relatively less utility.
 

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I'm definitely hunting through Target this week for an r4

on topic; OoTHax is a secondary because the game
A. Needs to store a payload in the save (That Cubic-Ninja guy is officially a mongol)
B. Needs something else to install it. OoTHax is the only secondary that Powersaves works for, But you are using Powersaves to install the exploit. Powersaves just happen to be this something else
Guy: "But you don't need another hacked system!"
Ricken: "Because OoT doesn't use per-cart encryption. Every other secondary does, so OoT is the mongol of the secondaries... but you are still using something else to modify your save data. Secondary. End of discussion."
 

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mfw this thread:
every-dollar-that-is-spent-waging-the-war-on-drugs.png

Why exactly do you care? It fits the definition. Requiring Powersave is no different than requiring homebrew access.
 

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