BREXIT [Poll] vote!

[Xiphiidae]

And I favour the Brexit because I believe it finally gives us the chance for big reforms in the EU without Britain's disruptions. We are in dire need of more democratic processes in the EU.

Fair enough, we agree but for entirely opposite reasons then.

And you started putting words in my mouth. I was just paraphrasing.

I didn't put any words in anyone's mouth. Maybe I was just 'paraphrasing' too :^)

 

[Flame]

"Democracy is only good when people like me are voting! Anyone unlike me is a bad person! Anyone who disagrees with me is wrong!"

1st I am a Brit. im pissed as fuck. Don't push it.

2nd. Did you read what I wrote?

you live in down under. I know the type of person who voted in the UK, being that I live here is: Old. far right wing.





funny didn't the Turks vote to invade Cyprus by elected people in a Democracy?

 

[Xiphiidae]

1st I am a Brit. im pissed as fuck. Don't push it.

you live in down under. I know the type of person who voted in the UK, being that I live here is: Old. far right wing.

Maybe you should have tried to convince some of the evil old people to vote Remain then :^)

funny didn't the Turks vote to invade Cyprus by elected people in a Democracy?

Yes, and now the EU wants Turkey to be a member despite them illegally occupying the land of another EU nation and having committed acts of ethnic cleansing against them. The EU sounds very moral.

At any rate, I don't remember ever saying that Democracy makes any action justifiable. Nice try though.

 

[Uwabami]

Maybe you should have tried to convince some of the evil old people to vote Remain then :^)


Yes, and now the EU wants Turkey to be a member despite them illegally occupying the land of another EU nation and having committed acts of ethnic cleansing against them.

At any rate, I don't remember ever saying that Democracy makes any action justifiable. Nice try though.

NOBODY wants them to join in the near future. It was an option before Erdogan became president, because for a long time, Turkey was on a good way. Now this option is off the table for a long time to come. There are clear benchmarks for potential new members.

And old people are fucking with young people's future everywhere. Part of the problem is that old people are voting and many young people are not.

 

[Flame]

Maybe you should have tried to convince some of the evil old people to vote Remain then :^)


Yes, and now the EU wants Turkey to be a member despite them illegally occupying the land of another EU nation and having committed acts of ethnic cleansing against them.

At any rate, I don't remember ever saying that Democracy makes any action justifiable. Nice try though.

occupying? For centuries it was the Turks. In the 1900's it become Cyprus. I wonder who made it Cyprus ... *cough*Britain*cough*



Didn't the turks invade to save they people ethnic cleansing against them. Why would they invade a nation which doesn't have jack? :^)

 

[Xiphiidae]

NOBODY wants them to join in the near future. It was an option before Erdogan became president, because for a long time, Turkey was on a good way. Now this option is off the table for a long time to come. There are clear benchmarks for potential new members.

I hope so.

And old people are fucking with young people's future everywhere. Part of the problem is that old people are voting and many young people are not.

In Australia, voting in elections and referendums is compulsory, and where I live, young people are infinitely more interested and active in politics than old people. The UK and Europe seem like a very different experience than being here.

occupying? For centuries it was the Turks. In the 1900's it become Cyprus. I wonder who made it Cyprus ... *cough*Britain*cough*

Yes, but Hellenic people had been living there and continued to live there since before Ottoman invasion, much like they did in Greece (which only became independent in the 1800s), and it's because of that connection to Britain that my father and his parents were able to emigrate to Australia in the first place.

Didn't the turks invade to save they people. Why would they invade a nation which doesn't have jack?

The same reason why they committed genocide against the Arminians and the Hellenic people in Cappadocia and Anatolia, I imagine.

 

[Flame]

The same reason why they committed genocide against the Arminians and the Hellenic people in Cappadocia and Anatolia, I imagine.

You are just pulling things from your arse now.

 

[Uwabami]

You are just pulling things from your arse now.

And a few pages back he argued that Germany shouldn't be made responsible for past crimes.

 

[Flame]

And a few pages back he argued that Germany shouldn't be made responsible for past crimes.

Your okay. Uwabami.

I hope to see you around GBA temp more.

 

[Xiphiidae]

You are just pulling things from your arse now.

Armenian Genocide

Greek Genocide

Turkish Invasion of Cyprus

"Turkey was found guilty by the European Commission of Human Rights for displacement of persons, deprivation of liberty, ill treatment, deprivation of life and deprivation of possessions. The Turkish policy of violently forcing a third of the island's Greek population from their homes in the occupied North, preventing their return and settling Turks from the mainland there is considered an example of ethnic cleansing."

Of course, I'm not saying that Greeks/Greek Cypriots were 100% victims or without blame, but nor were the Turkish people.

And a few pages back he argued that Germany shouldn't be made responsible for past crimes.

That's because current Germany is not Nazi Germany, and present day Germany fully acknowledges the horror that was the Holocaust. Current Turkey is the Turkey that invaded Cyprus, and continues to deny the existence of any genocides committed by the Republic of Turkey or the late Ottoman Empire.


Good job on the two of you justifying and/or ignoring ethnic cleaning (and perhaps genocide) for the sake of supporting the EU though, you must be very morally upstanding people.

 

[Uwabami]

Your okay. Uwabami.

I hope to see you around GBA temp more.

Thanks. And I hope the UK will rejoin the EU once the UKIP people were proven wrong and the EU is reformed. The EU without Britain isn't the same.

 

[Saiyan Lusitano]

I'm hoping that UK leaves that cesspool of the EU and then other European countries start doing the same.

 

[Flame]

Thanks. And I hope the UK will rejoin the EU once the UKIP people were proven wrong and the EU is reformed. The EU without Britain isn't the same.

its going to be cold and rainy few decades ... I hope to see you on the other side of the rainbow.

 

[Uwabami]

Armenian Genocide

Greek Genocide

Turkish Invasion of Cyprus

"Turkey was found guilty by the European Commission of Human Rights for displacement of persons, deprivation of liberty, ill treatment, deprivation of life and deprivation of possessions. The Turkish policy of violently forcing a third of the island's Greek population from their homes in the occupied North, preventing their return and settling Turks from the mainland there is considered an example of ethnic cleansing."


That's because current Germany is not Nazi Germany, and present day Germany fully acknowledges the horror that was the Holocaust. Current Turkey is the Turkey that invaded Cyprus, and continues to deny the existence of any genocides committed by the Republic of Turkey or the late Ottoman Empire.


Good job on the two of you justifying and/or ignoring ethnic cleaning (and perhaps genocide) for the sake of supporting the EU though, you must be very morally upstanding people.

You are correct on their handling of their past. But I still don't like how you try to destroy others in an argument with false claims.

 

[Xiphiidae]

false claims

Please explain.

 

[emigre]

k, this thread is descending into something.

 

[Gingerbread Crumb]

 

[Uwabami]

Please explain.

Like how you claimed I was dismissing everyone else's opinion when I did no such thing? Or accused me if being a totalitarian?

Or how you just accused me of being OK with ethnic cleansing?

 

[Xiphiidae]

Like how you claimed I was dismissing everyone else's opinion when I did no such thing? Or accused me if being a totalitarian?

I did neither of the things you're accusing me of. Evidence please.

Or how you just accused me of being OK with ethnic cleansing?

I didn't say that you were okay with it, I suggested that it's possible that you intentionally overlooked it for the sake of supporting the EU. I said what I said because I brought up ethnic cleansing committed by Turkey, to which Flame responded with "You are just pulling things from your arse now", which you seemingly agreed with. Did you not agree with his response?

 

[Uwabami]

I did neither of the things you're accusing me of. Evidence please.


I didn't say that you were okay with it, I suggested that it's possible that you intentionally overlooked it for the sake of supporting the EU. I said what I said because I brought up ethnic cleansing committed by Turkey, to which Flame responded with "You are just pulling things from your arse now", which you seemingly agreed with. Did you not agree with his response?

I'm completely conviced you're trolling now - welcome to my ignore list.