Hacking NTRCFW 3.4 Preview1(Support video output on New 3DS)

[Kibido]

Something weird happened. My PC was shut down for hours and so was my 3DS. I wanted to have a quick game before going to sleep so I turned it on, tried going online but hung on a connection screen, closed the lid and opened it only to get a black screen just like it happens while using NTR Viewer; problem is my PC was completely shut down. Another 3DS reboot and eventually I could go online, but it really seemed as for a while it fucked up my 3DS, even though there was no connection between it and NTR Viewer.

 

[The Real Jdbye]

I discovered something about the Pokémon games - The 3DS will stay connected to the router when you launch something like Pokémon X, but as soon as you hit Continue, the streaming stops working. At this point, my 3DS also disappeared from the router's "connected devices" list, however it reappears and streaming continues when I return to the Home Menu. I'm presuming that since Pokémon has a near-range console-to-console wireless feature, the 3DS automatically disconnects from any routers during gameplay and reconnects when gameplay ends. This might be a problem for streaming Pokémon games.

*reads previous posts*
Never mind, looks like it was already discovered...

That sounds like the culprit. I've noticed that when I'm connected online in the Pokemon games, local wireless won't work, so it seems like it's only able to use one or the other. Makes sense, I guess.

Something weird happened. My PC was shut down for hours and so was my 3DS. I wanted to have a quick game before going to sleep so I turned it on, tried going online but hung on a connection screen, closed the lid and opened it only to get a black screen just like it happens while using NTR Viewer; problem is my PC was completely shut down. Another 3DS reboot and eventually I could go online, but it really seemed as for a while it fucked up my 3DS, even though there was no connection between it and NTR Viewer.

Well, it is an early preview/beta, so I suppose anything could happen. That is a strange issue though. It was probably just a coincidence that had nothing to do with NTR, but you never know.

 

[Leslie White]

Ok I just discovered that video streaming for the Pokemon games do work. You just have to have the game connect to the internet. Then the video stream comes back. I don't know why this is, but it resolves black screen issue with Pokemon Alpha Sapphire. I assume this fix applies to the other games to. Ocarina of Time doesn't have internet features....So I can't get that one to stream. But hey the pokemon games work now.

Thanks a lot ! It worked for me ! Got wondertrades displayed at 40 fps and a battle replay at 15-20 fps, so this is kinda nice

 

[NekoMichi]

Out of curiosity, does streaming still work when booting DS-mode games, or does the 3DS disconnect from the viewer when a DS game is running?

I'm guessing the latter, since NTR runs on the 3DS firmware while the console switches to the TWL firmware when running DS games, which would disrupt the NTR debug connection. Sadly I can't test it at the moment.

 

[BobDoleOwndU]

Out of curiosity, does streaming still work when booting DS-mode games, or does the 3DS disconnect from the viewer when a DS game is running?

I'm guessing the latter, since NTR runs on the 3DS firmware while the console switches to the TWL firmware when running DS games, which would disrupt the NTR debug connection. Sadly I can't test it at the moment.

Just tried it, the 3DS disconnects.

 

[laharl22]

It will be possible to speed CPU on o3ds?

 

[zoogie]

It will be possible to speed CPU on o3ds?

Speed Limit: 268 MPH.

 

[Februarysn0w]

431km/h too fast.

Sent from my 403SC using Tapatalk

 

[NekoMichi]

431km/h too fast.

Sent from my 403SC using Tapatalk

So that's where all the Stability went...

It looks like the primary factor for streaming performance is the router used. A congested or old router can severely impact frame rate, the ideal setup would be one that supports 802.11ac, 5GHz, and a transfer speed of at least 100mbps. When I switched from a 802.11n (54mbps) router to my phone (maximum 300mbps with only the 3DS and PC connected and no other devices hogging bandwidth), frame rate improved from 0.2FPS to about 15FPS. The Internet service speed doesn't matter, it's just the wireless technology in the router that's the main bottleneck (along with the 3DS' wireless chip).

Oddly enough, I'm getting slightly worse performance on a N3DS compared to a N3DS XL, not sure why.

 

[cros107]

Soo...
Sorry for my noobieness, but how do you get this onto your 3ds?
I have the latest firmware. Used to have tubehax but that's dead now :/

 

[Keylogger]

Can I use both aureinand & NTRcfw?

 

[NekoMichi]

I have a few streaming test results from yesterday:

All tests were done with a N3DS XL on 10.7 sysNAND with AuReiNAND (A9LH), streaming quality was tested at the Home Menu and then booting into the Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask 3D as a standard.

Router - 2Wire 2700HGV
- 802.11b/g, 2.4GHz with maximum 54mbps transfer rate
- Congested router with ~3 other devices connected

NTR debugger was able to successfully connect to the console, however the viewer was only able to display 2-5 frames of video at the Home Menu before freezing at the last frame and entering an unrecoverable crash. No further results could be obtained.

Router - Dovado 3GN
- 802.11b/g/n, 2.4GHz with maximum 54mbps transfer rate
- Minimal congestion with only PC and 3DS connected

Video streaming was mostly smooth at the Home Menu with occasional flashing artefacts and interference, approximate frame rate at the Home Menu is 20. Launching the game causes severe drop in performance, either the stream freezes on the last frame and enters an unrecoverable crash, or frame rate drops to 1 frame per 5-20 seconds, recoverable by returning to the Home Menu.

Router - iPhone 6 (MyWi tethering app)
- 802.11a/b/g/n/ac, 2.4/5GHz dual band support with maximum 300mbps transfer rate
- Minimal congestion with only PC and 3DS connected

Streaming was very stable with 20-30FPS video on the Home Menu and consistent 10-30 FPS in-game. Occasionally the stream would get stuck on a frame during gameplay but would automatically recover within 5 seconds. No artefacts or interference was observed.

 

[gamesquest1]

Ok I just discovered that video streaming for the Pokemon games do work. You just have to have the game connect to the internet. Then the video stream comes back. I don't know why this is, but it resolves black screen issue with Pokemon Alpha Sapphire. I assume this fix applies to the other games to. Ocarina of Time doesn't have internet features....So I can't get that one to stream. But hey the pokemon games work now.

well thas weird it seems oot just outright disables the internet when you start it, but majoras mask doesn't, wonder if any other games do that

PS this patch works for making oot stream

It is already mentioned in the PDF, some games will disconnect wifi before booting automately，
to avoid this， imput write(0x0105AE4, (0x70, 0x47), pid=0x1a) before open your game.
(with this patch, you might have trouble with reconnecting to the router)

so just put

write(0x0105AE4, (0x70, 0x47), pid=0x1a)

into the box and hit enter then start oot and it will stay connected framerate is pretty good about 15-20 fps, seems most of the older games perform pretty well with this

 

[Februarysn0w]

Soo...
Sorry for my noobieness, but how do you get this onto your 3ds?
I have the latest firmware. Used to have tubehax but that's dead now :/

downgrade and install cfw first. do not ask here how to downgrade.

Sent from my 403SC using Tapatalk

 

[Februarysn0w]

Can I use both aureinand & NTRcfw?

yes, you can. launch aureinad cfw then launch ntr.

Sent from my 403SC using Tapatalk

 

[NekoMichi]

I'm able to stream to my laptop, and then in turn stream that video feed to the TV via AirPlay Mirroring, effectively playing 3DS on TV wirelessly (with quite a bit of lag). Never thought this would be possible so soon, NTR's certainly onto something big here.

 

[The Real Jdbye]

Can I use both aureinand & NTRcfw?

Only if you use the 10.2 FIRM from the NTR folder in the firms download.

well thas weird it seems oot just outright disables the internet when you start it, but majoras mask doesn't, wonder if any other games do that

PS this patch works for making oot stream

so just put

write(0x0105AE4, (0x70, 0x47), pid=0x1a)

into the box and hit enter then start oot and it will stay connected framerate is pretty good about 15-20 fps, seems most of the older games perform pretty well with this

It must be because OoT is a very early game, it was probably made with an old SDK version from before online support was added.

 

[NekoMichi]

It must be because OoT is a very early game, it was probably made with an old SDK version from before online support was added.

I might do some more testing around OoT, it's interesting that the game interferes with wireless features whereas it doesn't have any connectivity features in itself.

 

[Sno0t]

Hi evry1
Is there any way to increae fps ingame?
I am having always 98 to 100% quality, already increased cpuclock to max via ntrscreen. However i mostly get fps around 12 to 13...
I know this is a preview, I am just curious
Thanks in advance and kind regards,
Sno0t

 

[abdellbobo]

hey everyone this is cool i wondered how they manage to capture screen the 3ds on software ???