Homebrew is loader9hax worth it?

[Purple_Heart]

can i get my otp when i dgrade my emunand to 2.1??? or do i have to do it with sysnand? (in other threads they are ignoring me )

 

[Bu2d85]

can i get my otp when i dgrade my emunand to 2.1??? or do i have to do it with sysnand? (in other threads they are ignoring me )

No because to get into emunand you have to load a higher firmware first(9.2) for your hax. After this the OTP is already locked.

At least this is my understanding of it.

 

[funnystory]

if your showing the benefits of it, go ahead already. we dont really care about what you do with your system

no need to be rude.

 

[Gray_Jack]

thats why I didn't put a theme on emunand

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It seems like there isn't a full definition on getting it up and running and working (at least from that thread and what I've seen elsewhere), however, and how to do specific things with it. I'm going to wait until its fully developed and there are more tutorials to do specific things with it.

Well, I'm not telling you to use it right now but to be prepared to use it when the right time comes for you
Like, get the otp.bin now and save it somewhere safe and wait the A9LH homebrews to get more mature to start using it

 

[Gray_Jack]

can i get my otp when i dgrade my emunand to 2.1??? or do i have to do it with sysnand? (in other threads they are ignoring me )

No, sadly it's more harder than that, if you have an O3DS, it's easier, but still need to downgrade sysNAND
If you have a N3DS, it's a lot harder ('cuz there no official version of FW 2.1 for N3DS)

Just use this guide, it's the safest method right now

 

[Deleted User]

Essentially, it is worth it specifically if you have a reason to go out of your way to use it and know exactly what you are doing.

The benefits are great, I am using AuReiNAND emuNAND with it and am enjoying the faster load times and less hackish boot process greatly, as well as worrying less about booting to sysNAND since it autoboots to emuNAND and feels exactly like sysNAND anyhow (I can even run GBA VC from emuNAND directly and have it reboot to emuNAND).

 

[Deleted User]

Here is the full info on the differences in methods:

• HomeMenuHax or any other LESShax-based exploit takes advantages of miscellaneous bugs in the existing 3DS software, resulting in the ability to run basic code like the Homebrew Menu. It does not give you access to lower-level system stuff, so you can't install pirated games/custom home menu stuff but you can run homebrew such as emulators. No system files are modified, and this is very, very safe.
• Custom Firmware and emuNAND/emulated NAND is a file backup of your existing NAND that the Nintendo 3DS can't tell is being run off of the SD card. In order to launch an emuNAND, you need a custom firmware, which is fancy verbiage for "more exploits". Using an exploit like the ones described above, a secondary exploit is run that allows custom code to run on the system menu. This allows some level of piracy and such and allows you to install homebrew CIA files (which are just compressed packages of game content, like how an eShop game would appear on your home menu). This can modify system files, but it is still safe unless you go out of your way to blow it up.
• A9LH, or ARM9 Loader Haxx, goes even further - the last version of the Nintendo 3DS firmware files that had an exploit that gave full system control was version 2.1. A9LH requires you to downgrade to frankenstein together a version of 2.1 that will run on an N3DS and can be used to modify a newer firmware file. Once you reach that point, you get OTP.bin, which is simply the exploitable system files that are needed to re-introduce those exploits on newer firmwares. Because firmware files are marked with which console installed them, you can not use this file from somebody else's 3DS. Once you have this file, you flash the firmware you originally were running to get back to a normal system.
  What the A9LH installer does (once it is compiled and run) is that it goes into the boot process and pretty much blows up half of it. This results in the 3DS looking to the next part of the boot process for a fallback, at which point A9LH provides it custom boot code rather than the actual 3DS boot code that normally would exist. This gives ARM9 access to the system, meaning all kinds of fun things can be done with the full control we have.
  The A9LH process is relatively safe if you know exactly what you are doing and are diligent to not make silly mistakes. Unlike other processes, recovery isn't really possible, as you'll botch your system's ability to boot if you mess up. Proceed with caution if you are at any step and feel you are in over your head.

All things considered, it sounds far scarier than it looks. It is all relatively safe, and I would definitely do your research to fully take advantage of what you need. A9LH isn't necessary if you just want emulators, for example.

I posted this in another thread, but it applies here. Essentially, I feel that whether or not it is worth it is a question of your comfort level with mucking with your system, your knowledge level, and your actual needs for homebrew.

 

[Jarmenti]

For me the all around responsiveness of booting from sysnand was well worth it! besides, decrypt9 is running from a9lh now, so emunand is useless!, It's nice freeing up that extra space on the sd card.

 

[TimX24968B]

Well, I'm not telling you to use it right now but to be prepared to use it when the right time comes for you
Like, get the otp.bin now and save it somewhere safe and wait the A9LH homebrews to get more mature to start using it

well my sysnand ain't changing anytime soon, so I'll get it when I need it. I'll also probably have to wait for an actual build that explicitly states how to use it and do certain things with it installed instead of that one thread where the OP just listed the possibilities of it and suddenly its like everyone there somehow magically got a working copy of it that they know everything about.

 

[Gray_Jack]

well my sysnand ain't changing anytime soon, so I'll get it when I need it. I'll also probably have to wait for an actual build that explicitly states how to use it and do certain things with it installed instead of that one thread where the OP just listed the possibilities of it and suddenly its like everyone there somehow magically got a working copy of it that they know everything about.

You got a point, the development of A9LH stuff are really chaotic right now, I myself needed to research a lot and study everything that I found about it just to feel comfortable about compile A9LH installer, but after I understood everything, I did, and it worth it. (If you aren't as enthusiastic as me you should keep the way your 3DS is, it's safer that way)

Just wait a little till the things became crystal clear to everyone :3

 

[sweis12]

If you want it now, do it now.
Im sure that whiten the next 2 weeks there will be a "safer" or "easier" way to do it. I did it the hard/"risky" (its not really risky. Many nand backups and failsaves along the way!) way and have no regrets and no issues during instillation.
Do it now if you want, or wait 2 weeks, either way A9LH is worth it for the bootrate alone. (Remember when CWF was leaked for the first time and had a 1/10 bootrate with Mset exploit?)

 

[Supster131]

Im sure that whiten the next 2 weeks there will be a "safer" or "easier" way to do it.

Safer? Probably not. The current guide is as safe as it's gonna get (most likely anyways). Unless CFW devs support 2.1 emuNAND, but that's kind of a waste of time.

Easier? Probably. d0k3's currently working on some homebrew app that will making downgrading a n3DS to 2.1 easier.

 

[SSMatt123]

The risk of bricking isn't actually as high as it may look. I understand that people quickly back away when they see they have to downgrade Sysnand again, but the method of doing it is different. The problem with bricks is generally caused by sysupdater, which frankly is kind of unstable, but you're only using that to downgrade Emunand (Which can be restored if it goes wrong), then using something else to transfer that over to sysnand, and from what I've seen no one that follows the existing guides properly has ever had a problem with bricking. The only thing is the downgraded emunand can't be booted to test it's ok before transferring it over to sysnand, but it probably will eventually so it might be worth waiting for that.

Having said that it does take literally hours to do, and the end result is a quicker, cleaner boot with a 100% success boot rate. Also it allows you to get rid of emunand completely if you want to, because before long you will be able to boot homebrew at a boot level that will allow you to restore a bricked sysnand (You might already, I haven't really kept up). It also fixes a few problems with the menuhax boot, like the 3D on the n3ds thing.

I'd say it's worth doing (When you have an afternoon and evening to spare), as it's the future of homebrew on 3DS. Trust me you'll notice the difference and will be glad you did it once it's done. It really is a lot better.

 

[SSMatt123]

Also don't listen to the "Emunand is useless" comments.

While it is unlikely, Nintendo could throw out an update that stops this in its tracks, at least initially before someone fixes it.

Switch to sysnand and update if you want (It's faster than emunand), but always keep a bare-bones 9.2 Emunand on your SD that you can boot to, and always check on forums if it's ok to update Sysnand before doing so.

 

[Manuel9181]

What you can have with a9lh:
Fastest boot speed
100% bootrate
Recover your console from a brick
Keep using emuNand or switch using an updated sysNand

What you can have using Menuhax:

The choice is yours...

 

[Ekaitz]

Also don't listen to the "Emunand is useless" comments.

While it is unlikely, Nintendo could throw out an update that stops this in its tracks, at least initially before someone fixes it.

Switch to sysnand and update if you want (It's faster than emunand), but always keep a bare-bones 9.2 Emunand on your SD that you can boot to, and always check on forums if it's ok to update Sysnand before doing so.

Do people really think that is useless? I don't think so!
I'm still using emunand. I plan of switching it for my sysnand because I've got some issues with custom VC/GBA.
It does not mean that it is suddenly useless, for the most part of users, it is an interesting thing that avoid them to mess with things they don't understand!

And it is still interesting to have a 9.2 emunand, at least for launching some homebrews like the "full-version" of Decrypt9.

But yea, to conclude, A9LH is worth it.
I don't regret the frightening downgrade and all that shit now that I've got it.

 

[SSMatt123]

That yellow screen makes me cringe just seeing it again lol

 

[MsMidnight]

no need to be rude.

im just being honest with him, so yo shouldnt concern yourself or anything

 

[funnystory]

im just being honest with him, so yo shouldnt concern yourself or anything

Honesty has nothing to do with it,you don't call every fat person you see fat do you?The OP is asking a simple question,if you don't want to answer it in a polite manner don't bother posting on the thread.

 

[MsMidnight]

Honesty has nothing to do with it,you don't call every fat person you see fat do you?The OP is asking a simple question,if you don't want to answer it in a polite manner don't bother posting on the thread.

the OP clearly stated benefits of using A9LH. so i dont know why he/she made this thread