Hacking GATEWAY 3.2 ULTRA PUBLIC BETA

[Ghost]

So if I play DS games with the MSET cia installed, will I have to boot though OoT/CN again to access the Gateway Menu?

 

[blinkzane]

Aight, went ahead and installed it anyway, and all is well. This time though, a red LED lit up on the Gateway cart. I've never had this before, and didn't even know it was there. Does anybody know what it means?

interesting, we've known the light was there but we always assumed it was for development purposes

 

[Ralph1611]

Aight, went ahead and installed it anyway, and all is well. This time though, a red LED lit up on the Gateway cart. I've never had this before, and didn't even know it was there. Does anybody know what it means?

i noticed that too.. I guess that guy wasnt drunk last month when he said his Gateway Card lit up

 

[blinkzane]

i noticed that too.. I guess that guy wasnt drunk last month when he said his Gateway Card lit up

I just sent gateway an E-mail asking about this so I will respond about it when they do

 

[mooglazer]

9) Insert your Gateway (without any microSD!) into your N3DS, boot Gateway mode.

Your writeup worked well, but I couldn't boot into GW mode without an SD card in my GW.

Everything else worked perfectly. Thank you.

 

[davhuit]

I don't think you got a grasp of the argument itself. It's not about what you are mentioning.

The argument was to the fact that he was saying that an offline DS profile already exists for o3ds which is why this isnt really adding anything for o3ds, and that those who want it can simply downgrade. Then he said the whole exploit will require porting the ninja/Zelda exploit for o3ds, which is not true as the current online method can be used as an entry point.

If you have a way to help people that are on 5.x-9.2 without a working browser to use the online exploit, feel free to share, you'll make a lot of happy people.

I said those people without a working browser need another offline exploit, so the Cubic Ninja/Ocarina of Time one. They'll never be able to use an online exploit as they don't have a working browser because those 3DS were never updated online (cart updates don't have browser update in it).

And yeah, once they would have a Cubic Ninja/Ocarina of Time update, this mset thing will be near useless as if they really want the ds profile exploit, then, they could just downgrade.

And you said "no, they don't need it, they can use the online one", but no, they can't. Get a O3DS which a "0" digit at the end of the firmware, with-in the 5.0-9.2 range and try the exploit browser, you'll see by yourself it don't work.

Where did I said this exploit was useless for O3DS users? It's mainly an O3DS update only, because of the emunand 9.7 support, so of course it' bring a lot to O3DS.

I said it doesn't bring a lot for N3DS users, which is true, it just let you avoid to use the cart which wasn't a big problem (you can't really get it from a friend then give them back or sold your cart because if you need to have a way to run the exploit again if a problem occurs).

You are missing the point, the old method to downgrade to 4.5 results in 4.5 system. This method only downgrade system settings. They aren't in any way the same.

Also, I don't think they would need to port the cubic ninja or Zelda support for old 3ds for this. It is is only used as an entry point the first time to install the CIA. But we can always use the online method instead as an entry point and install the CIA.

Again, that's how I understand it, unless I am missing something

So, quoting the original statement again, now that you know about those browserless 3DS issue. Of course, they need to port the Cubic Ninja/Ocarina of Time exploit (or find another offline exploit) if they want everyone to be able to use it.

Of course, people with browser exploit might be able to run it if it works on O3DS, but I don't think much people care. People who wanted a offline exploit already downgraded (and only a few people care about the save incompatibility with retail cards as probably 99% of gateway users doesn't use retail cards), so pretty useless for O3DS users that already have a working exploit (especially when probably most users don't use the browser exploit, except to downgrade).

And if it doesn't work directly on O3DS (didn't tested), I just think it would be a waste of time to port this mset thing to O3DS.

 

[Max128]

So if I play DS games with the MSET cia installed, will I have to boot though OoT/CN again to access the Gateway Menu?

Yes i do this with my dstwo, you need to reinstall the NVRAM only.

 

[Rizzorules]

I can finally use my N3ds 8.1, thanks Gateway

 

[Deleted member 356526]

Hey guys! I updated my emunand and all that crap, but when I boot classic now... I just get black? I installed the NEWEST MSET... I can still access 4.5 SYS 4.5 CFW... HALP.

 

[Ericss]

Wait, to install the downgrade of the System Settings you need to be booted into GW mode in sysNAND, not emuNAND, right? Did they finally add a method to boot sysNAND while having a mSD with emuNAND on it, or I'll have to unscrew and remove the back cover of my N3DSXL and replace the mSD?

 

[bahamut17]

"New 3DS users might also wonder why there is no EMUNAND update yet, and the answer is simply that while we are still making steady progress on this front, there is still alot of work to be done until we get to this point. So we hope our New 3DS users will understand that we cannot give an exact end date for this yet.
Rest assured we will be able to overcome this obstacle!".
This mean new3ds ll firmware 9.4.0-20j not support. Right ?

 

[mvmiranda]

Wait, to install the downgrade of the System Settings you need to be booted into GW mode in sysNAND, not emuNAND, right? Did they finally add a method to boot sysNAND while having a mSD with emuNAND on it, or I'll have to unscrew and remove the back cover of my N3DSXL and replace the mSD?

You'll have to unscrew and remove the back cover.
Personally, I let the back cover always unscrewed. Since it has the little "clips" it doesn't get loose of don't come off easily.
In fact, you have to struggle a bit to remove that back cover, even if it's unscrewed

 

[Ghost]

I wonder when a Gateway alpha build is coming out

 

[ryanjf97]

So is it safe to do this? Does it screw up any saves like going from 9.x-4.5 did on the O3DS?

 

[davhuit]

You'll have to unscrew and remove the back cover.
Personally, I let the back cover always unscrewed. Since it has the little "clips" it doesn't get loose of don't come off easily.
In fact, you have to struggle a bit to remove that back cover, even if it's unscrewed

That also what I was doing and it was working fine, until one day, the N3DS seems to not be able to read retail carts anymore and it fixed itself once I screwed the back cover again. So now, I use the micro-sd management app installed on the home screen with the .cia version.

So is it safe to do this? Does it screw up any saves like going from 9.x-4.5 did on the O3DS?

It shouldn't, as only the system settings will be on 4.5. But a downgrade doesn't screw saves, at least Gateway ones. Even retails ones aren't screwed, they just can't be loaded but they aren't deleted or corrupted.

 

[Mr_Pichu]

Doubters gonna doubt. Haters gonna hate. Those with a 3DS Gateway gonna enjoy some new games and features.

 

[Adeka]

You'll have to unscrew and remove the back cover.
Personally, I let the back cover always unscrewed. Since it has the little "clips" it doesn't get loose of don't come off easily.
In fact, you have to struggle a bit to remove that back cover, even if it's unscrewed

I already broke one of the screw holes and the other one is going to break soon too. Oh well. My case is too sexy so I never see the broken screw hole anyway

 

[Skeet1983]

I have both GW and a DSTwo. Is there a way to switch between them without having to reinstall NVRAM thing each time?

 

[Ericss]

You'll have to unscrew and remove the back cover.
Personally, I let the back cover always unscrewed. Since it has the little "clips" it doesn't get loose of don't come off easily.
In fact, you have to struggle a bit to remove that back cover, even if it's unscrewed

Ugh. How hard would it have been to add that feature, GW?

Thanks for clearing that up, though. Say, I've never removed the back cover. Do you have any suggestions or caveats to bring up? What would you recommend me to use to pry it off? I've read that using the stylus like Nintendo recommends might result in chipping tiny bits off the back plate, so it's better to use a flathead screwdriver.

 

[qproject]

Ugh. How hard would it have been to add that feature, GW?

Thanks for clearing that up, though. Say, I've never removed the back cover. Do you have any suggestions or caveats to bring up? What would you recommend me to use to pry it off? I've read that using the stylus like Nintendo recommends might result in chipping tiny bits off the back plate, so it's better to use a screwdriver.

Using the stylus is the best option to open the back cover.