Hacking [release] Use blocked DS flashcards on 3DS, probably N3DS too.

[memomo]

great job , thanks

hope this works in N3ds when we have ability to instal .cia

 

[cearp]

That makes no **king sense at all. So you're telling me Nintendo made this CIA? Seriously? Any CIA not created by Nintendo or a company authorized by Nintendo to release content on their console(s) is third party and therefor "custom" and is not signed properly to run on a system nand that has not been exploited to run unsigned code. The way you're trying to explain this is just making me more suspicious....

it makes no sense? i'm just going to ignore you, sorry. i've added you to my ignore list (read my signature)

Which means he modified the file. How does it continue to work now that it's modified and no longer signed? Encryption and signing are separate things. You can re-encrypt game roms for example using the same keys that decrypted them. But it's not signed anymore and an unmodified console won't boot it.

This is why "Sky3DS" can't run homebrew or modified games.

So this file isn't signature checked? Even non executable files have to be signed to work on sysnand without bricking it. At least that's what I've been led to believe. Did Nintendo not lock down the part of the file that reports the version of the file on sysnand? Then why not modify the version firmware version string so it thinks it's on like version 11 or something and you never have to go through update prompts to use eShop. That's basically what's happening here.

jesus knows why you are so sure of yourself, it's embarrassing.
you have no idea what you are talking about.
sure, install it on emunand and play your ds roms there, good luck.
and lol, the eshop update prompt is more than checking the version number in system settings...

 

[cearp]

He just changed the version. The actual title that gets installed is unmodified.

no, that answer is too simple for him, there must be something more suspicious, CUSTOM, HOW, NINTENDO, SUSPICIOUS

Precisely. Let's say the hacked version number is 99999.99. When attempting to update to 9.4 (or any other version for that matter) the system will report back that the installed version (99999.99) is newer than the version it's trying to install (9.4) so it will ignore that title (folder/file/whathaveyou).

although the whitelist does not get updated in every system update anyway, but sure

 

[MattKimura]

I can see this being EXTREMELY useful for 9.2 users who want to use their blue Gateway card instead of just not being able to use it at all. Since they will have cia support, they can definitely install this, and there is no emunand and everything is done from sysnand. This will make my friend happy.

 

[cearp]

I can see this being EXTREMELY useful for 9.2 users who want to use their blue Gateway card instead of just not being able to use it at all. Since they will have cia support, they can definitely install this, and there is no emunand and everything is done from sysnand. This will make my friend happy.

exactly what user case 3 is in the OP but thanks for the repeat, some people still don't understand what this actually is/is capable of.

 

[gamesquest1]

yeah the main purpose of this is for 9.x users once the update is out, yeah there are other NDS flashcards that work on 9.x natively, but lets face it if you get the blue card with your gateway you might as well use it if you can........and this is just a sot of proof of concept thing, it could also kinda be used to block updates in sysnand.....but ofc that would be more "risky" especially for n3DS users as there is currently no nand pinout to recover from any adverse effects

as always keep your nand backups safe so should anything go wrong you can recover from it....but really i think updating the whitelist is a fairly simple and most likely safe start-off point, i'm able to test this stuff as i have my nand mod set up and having the whitelist updates didn't seem to cause any issues, everything works as normal even after updating to 9.4, but again to clarify you shouldn't use this as a reason to update to 9.4 it was just to show the whitelist work updating to 9.4 will block any prospect of running the new GW firmware for the foreseeable future

 

[cearp]

yeah the main purpose of this is for 9.x users once the update is out, yeah there are other NDS flashcards that work on 9.x natively, but lets face it if you get the blue card with your gateway you might as well use it if you can........and this is just a sot of proof of concept thing, it could also kinda be used to block updates in sysnand.....but ofc that would be more "risky" especially for n3DS users as there is currently no nand pinout to recover from any adverse effects

as always keep your nand backups safe so should anything go wrong you can recover from it....but really i think updating the whitelist is a fairly simple and most likely safe start-off point, i'm able to test this stuff as i have my nand mod set up and having the whitelist updates didn't seem to cause any issues, everything works as normal even after updating to 9.4, but again to clarify you shouldn't use this as a reason to update to 9.4 it was just to show the whitelist work updating to 9.4 will block any prospect of running the new GW firmware for the foreseeable future

my thoughts exactly, of course nintendo DO care about ds piracy, but, they are hardly going to rewrite their whitelist stuff to use another title for the few people that actually make use of this.

 

[DjoeN]

It's very funny to see that only Supercard has managed to survive with there DSTwo, all other well known makers are out of bussines or blocked
While the only carts that do work, all claim to be R4 Clones, (with exception of the Supercart DSTwo)

Lucky i'm one of those guys that never sell his old consoles, so i still have my originalk DS, the DS Slim, DSi, DSi XL
There'e always one of those that still run any of the old flashcarts i have around (DSTTi/CycloDS Evo (i) / Supercard DSi-one(i) / DSTwo, Original R4, etc... )

 

[satanicangel]

I am sorry for the noob question.. How can I install this..? I mean, I have Gateway and a ver 4.5 console. I got this CIA, but I don't have DevMenu on my SysNAND.. How to.. err.. browse to install this CIA? Sorry if I am too noob but I just can't figure it out..

 

[gamesquest1]

I am sorry for the noob question.. How can I install this..? I mean, I have Gateway and a ver 4.5 console. I got this CIA, but I don't have DevMenu on my SysNAND.. How to.. err.. browse to install this CIA? Sorry if I am too noob but I just can't figure it out..

you dont really need to unless you have a old NDS flashcard that was blocked pre-4.x that you want to use

 

[cearp]

I am sorry for the noob question.. How can I install this..? I mean, I have Gateway and a ver 4.5 console. I got this CIA, but I don't have DevMenu on my SysNAND.. How to.. err.. browse to install this CIA? Sorry if I am too noob but I just can't figure it out..

ok. don't have emunand on your sd card.
load gw.
have the bigbluebox 3ds/devmenu 3ds whatever you like, on your gw card.
load it, install the cia.
done.

 

[lemanuel]

I am sorry for the noob question.. How can I install this..? I mean, I have Gateway and a ver 4.5 console. I got this CIA, but I don't have DevMenu on my SysNAND.. How to.. err.. browse to install this CIA? Sorry if I am too noob but I just can't figure it out..

you dont really need to unless you have a old NDS flashcard that was blocked pre-4.x that you want to use

exactly. just use GW's blue card since you have a 4.5 console.

 

[guitarheroknight]

But how do you do it on 9.2 sysnand without devmenu?

Edit: got it.

 

[gamesquest1]

But how do you do it on 9.2 sysnand without devmenu?

wait for the gateway release .....call this a preemptive release

 

[satanicangel]

ok. don't have emunand on your sd card.
load gw.
have the bigbluebox 3ds/devmenu 3ds whatever you like, on your gw card.
load it, install the cia.
done.

Thanks a lot!

 

[guitarheroknight]

This is great news as long as the blue card is not involved in the exploit installation the way it was on 4.x

 

[PedroDJavier]

Nice work!

 

[Searinox]

Using the same logic, would it be possible to repack and install Nintendo's own 4.5 firmware on the sysnand, but this time with an internal version number of 9999.99 so that Nintendo Zone doesn't try to update it?

 

[Duo8]

Using the same logic, would it be possible to repack and install Nintendo's own 4.5 firmware on the sysnand, but this time with an internal version number of 9999.99 so that Nintendo Zone doesn't try to update it?

Probably but that will kill everything and cause world destruction.

 

[gamesquest1]

Using the same logic, would it be possible to repack and install Nintendo's own 4.5 firmware on the sysnand, but this time with an internal version number of 9999.99 so that Nintendo Zone doesn't try to update it?

yeah probably, i'll give it a try later, but just so your aware, if you do that it would be permanent unless you have a nand mod to downgrade.......but idk you might be able to manually upgrade by using different FW versions with the same Version number.....but you would probably never be able to upgrade using the normal update functions again unless you have the nand mod to restore your original FW