Games you like, but nobody else does?

[AceWarhead]

Conception II for 3DS/Vita
Come on... no one likes to classmate?
One of the most wacky and fun dungeon crawlers for me.

 

[Foxi4]

Metal Slug Advance... accoding to my girlfriend, "the most boring game ever made".

You still have a chance - you're not married yet!

Star Fox Adventures
Chrono Cross
Final Fantasy X*
Final Fantasy VIII
The Last Story
Final Fantasy IV DS

To name a few, this is my list so far.

I enjoyed Final Fantasy VIII myself! And who exactly dislikes Final Fantasy DS remakes? And what happened in that person's childhood - was his family killed by a gang of Black Mages or something?

 

[the_randomizer]

I enjoyed Final Fantasy VIII myself! And who exactly dislikes Final Fantasy DS remakes? And what happened in that person's childhood - was his family killed by a gang of Black Mages or something?

People hated the game for the chibi character designs (which were the original artwork of Yoshitaka Amano), the difficulty, which could maybe have been toned down a smidge, and well, people just didn't like it because it wasn't like the original. I mean, they even kept the phrase "You spoony bard!" for the lulz I find the game to be just fine. Final Fantasy VIII is also treated like crap because people hated the setting, the characters or just the game itself, for whatever reasons I can't fathom, hardly the worst one. Final Fantasy XIII however...

 

[zeello]

140 users - www.favslist.com/pages/Final-Fantasy-VIII/5737
39 users - The Last Story
31 users - Final Fantasy IV (DS)
28 users - Star Fox Adventures

the randomizer is listing only popular games.. :/

I mean as if it wasn't obvious, when he listed FF8 and Chrono Cross in the same post.

 

[the_randomizer]

140 users - www.favslist.com/pages/Final-Fantasy-VIII/5737
39 users - The Last Story
31 users - Final Fantasy IV (DS)
28 users - Star Fox Adventures

the randomizer is listing only popular games.. :/

I mean as if it wasn't obvious, when he listed FF8 and Chrono Cross in the same post.

People still don't like them, they're not THAT popular lel. People hate them for trivial reasons. Star Fox Adventures for not being a true Star Fox game (See - SF Command), The Last Story for being a Wii game (IGN is a good example), and FFIV DS for having chibi characters and for its difficulty. The list goes on, but they're hardly popular.

 

[Nathan Drake]

And who exactly dislikes Final Fantasy DS remakes? And what happened in that person's childhood - was his family killed by a gang of Black Mages or something?

The art style of the FF DS remakes is a real downer to me. I can't interpret anything about the games seriously in that god awful childish art style. I'm hoping beyond hope that if they ever remake FFVI (in a legitimate effort and not that smartphone cash-in), they either go full 3D and make it absolutely beautiful, or keep it sprite based like the original. Chibi is not how I'm looking for the tone of a game that isn't trying to be a complete joke to be defined, and art style is about 50% of how tone is defined. Though, thankfully, in the case of FF IV, there are a million other remakes available, and for FF III, well, that game is a flaming pile of dog crap anyways, so it doesn't really matter.

 

[megaexplosion]

I always liked and replayed Pokemon Colosseum a bunch but everyone seems to hate it...

 

[the_randomizer]

Looks like I said it right on cue about FFIV DS Clearly people don't know what Amano's art looks like.

 

[thesupremegamer]

The art style of the FF DS remakes is a real downer to me. I can't interpret anything about the games seriously in that god awful childish art style. I'm hoping beyond hope that if they ever remake FFVI (in a legitimate effort and not that smartphone cash-in), they either go full 3D and make it absolutely beautiful, or keep it sprite based like the original. Chibi is not how I'm looking for the tone of a game that isn't trying to be a complete joke to be defined, and art style is about 50% of how tone is defined. Though, thankfully, in the case of FF IV, there are a million other remakes available, and for FF III, well, that game is a flaming pile of dog crap anyways, so it doesn't really matter.

how i being childish bad

we dont complain about mario or sonic so why ff3(i love mario and sonic btw so dont get the wrong idea)

 

[Nathan Drake]

Looks like I said it right on cue about FFIV DS Clearly people don't know what Amano's art looks like.

It looks like it doesn't belong in a game that is even remotely trying to take itself seriously. Not every defining art style is automatically good and belongs in all scenarios.

how i being childish bad

we dont complain about mario or sonic so why ff3(i love mario and sonic btw so dont get the wrong idea)

Because, theoretically, in a game about killing stuff mercilessly with swords and magic, with people dying, etc., it shouldn't be childish. Childish only belongs with things that are actually supposed to be interpreted as childish.

I have no idea why you bring up Mario and Sonic to combat why I think FF3 is poop.

 

[Foxi4]

The art style of the FF DS remakes is a real downer to me. I can't interpret anything about the games seriously in that god awful childish art style. I'm hoping beyond hope that if they ever remake FFVI (in a legitimate effort and not that smartphone cash-in), they either go full 3D and make it absolutely beautiful, or keep it sprite based like the original. Chibi is not how I'm looking for the tone of a game that isn't trying to be a complete joke to be defined, and art style is about 50% of how tone is defined. Though, thankfully, in the case of FF IV, there are a million other remakes available, and for FF III, well, that game is a flaming pile of dog crap anyways, so it doesn't really matter.

To be a 100% fair, the NES originals also looked pretty childish, although back then it was a result of technical limitations... who am I kidding, it's a result of technical limitations on the DS as well!

 

[zeello]

childish art style doesn't work for all settings and tones

and you can do childish poorly, just as you can do realism poorly

at the end of the day it is completely subjective

edit: The "the NES games looked like that or were meant to" argument is also woefully subjective

 

[thesupremegamer]

It looks like it doesn't belong in a game that is even remotely trying to take itself seriously. Not every defining art style is automatically good and belongs in all scenarios.


Because, theoretically, in a game about killing stuff mercilessly with swords and magic, with people dying, etc., it shouldn't be childish. Childish only belongs with things that are actually supposed to be interpreted as childish.

I have no idea why you bring up Mario and Sonic to combat why I think FF3 is poop.

it just seemed abit harsh to judge a game like that

its like saying disgaea is childish becaue it isnt serious

 

[Gahars]

it just seemed abit harsh to judge a game like that

its like saying disgaea is childish becaue it isnt serious

He's saying it looks childish because the art style looks childish, which clashes poorly with the themes/content of the game.

Come on, guys, this isn't hard.

 

[Foxi4]

childish art style doesn't work for all settings and tones

Doesn't work in Wind Waker, for instance.

;O;

 

[the_randomizer]

I hope that we get a real Final Fantasy VI remake, you know, one that wasn't made in RPG Maker 2000 and ported to IOS and Android devices and doesn't suck?

 

[zeello]

I hope that we get a real Final Fantasy VI remake, you know, one that wasn't made in RPG Maker 2000 and ported to IOS and Android devices and doesn't suck?

and without randomly triggered encounters

 

[the_randomizer]

and without randomly triggered encounters

That defeats the purpose of Final Fantasy games, some RPGs have random encounters, others do not, but the Final Fantasy games have always been with them, to take them out would take out the challenge, and people could easily go around the enemies. What's the challenge in that? I hope you're joking, that's like taking out the dash feature in SMB 3. You must not have grown up in the NES/Snes era of RPGs.

Unless you want FF to be more like FFXIII and suck ass, keep random encounters intact. No, just, freaking no.

 

[zeello]

some RPGs have random encounters, others do not

some rpgs are terrible, others are not. Does that make terribleness an established tradition and something to be celebrated?
What is wrong with constructive criticism, or proposing that a game not be terrible?

but the Final Fantasy games have always been with them, to take them out would take out the challenge, and people could easily go around the enemies. What's the challenge in that?

Challenge is not the issue. If it was, you could just implement mandatory battles. And FF games typically have leveling systems meaning that skipping the battles just makes the game harder, not easier, so your argument makes no sense. No, the issue is not challenge, its stubbornness.

You must not have grown up in the NES/Snes era of RPGs.

The first RPG I owned and beat was FF3 for SNES. (we call it FF6 now) I also played FF2 on SNES at a friend's house but only a little.
oh and almost forgot Super Mario RPG.

Unless you want FF to be more like FFXIII and suck ass, keep random encounters intact. No, just, freaking no.

just because random encounters are taken out doesn't mean the game automatically has to become like FF13. There are a variety of RPGs without random encounters and some of them are highly celebrated including Chrono Trigger and Persona 3 and 4 and the Mana series. Not to mention that no genre outside of RPG uses random encounters and they are doing just fine. Just think how inane it would be if your TV shut off every 30 seconds when watching a movie, or if in every 20 seconds of playing Halo you got an internet screamer, a load screen, and were teleported to a different room to fight enemies while the rest of the game was on hold. It would be in dumb in any game, and its no less dumb in Final Fantasy. Its like saying cat turds are okay in a falafel sandwich but not in a gyro, or that roach eggs are OK on a club sandwich but not in a hero. It is a cultural construct at best, and people who defend it are critically blind.

 

[Foxi4]

There's nothing inherently wrong with random encounters. Problems emerge when said encounters are:

• Unavoidable
• Happen every 2 steps
• Are unbalanced

This is the problem I had with Final Fantasy VII and the reason why I never finished the game - I just got bored of running into enemies every 5 steps when all I really wanted was to complete the quest. It's a matter of implementation, not a problem with a gameplay mechanic.