Think of this guide as a way to introduce which carts are available on the market. With this, the main goal is to at least acquaint people with the players, and give them enough feedback so they may be able to make an educated decision.
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Think of this guide as a way to introduce which carts are available on the market. With this, the main goal is to at least acquaint people with the players, and give them enough feedback so they may be able to make an educated decision.
No. I don't care at all about that. I was tired of seeing dupe threads all over the place, and thus far, this thread has been a success as the amount of topics asking to compare the kits have been reduced significantly.
The winner post is the latest one, the one dated (12/9/13). In the latest portion of that section, I stated that I found the Gateway the winner. At the time of posting the original message, there really was no clear winner, with the lines being kind of muddled with no new firmwares available. Now that the teams have released their firmwares, it's clear that the Gateway had the most going for it. With the section titled "Winners" you're supposed to read the paragraph closest to the bottom of the post.
That one has the latest verdict with regards to the current information at hand. The section is basically for me to map out the progress that each team has, so that when new information gets updated, people don't have to spend time clamoring and questioning which cart they should buy. If you're having issues, just read the one closest to the bottom of the page.Saying it was unprofessional was more along the lines of "if I put it this way, I'll sound biased as hell" which would kill the purpose of this thread as it would clearly become a clone bashing contest that would be no different than any other thread on the forums. I wanted to distinguish this thread from all the others by creating an open platform for discussion by providing all the facts as they come out in one location. I wanted to compare these cartridges without bias on a platform so everyone gets the straight up facts without the bullshit and speculation.
Ryukouki - You should consider a future in Politics. FWIW, I love your posts, keep up the good work
Fuck politics, I'm not into that kind of stuff. ;D Too much heat in there. And thank you! That's always nice to hear.
My view from the ground is the Gateway team brought a product to market first, and all the rest are just copying to keep up. Perhaps there is some parallel development from the other groups, but we have yet to see anything. So for the moment the gbatemp community consensus is that the Gateway team is doing all the work and the clones are getting a free ride. So is it really a good idea to buy clone hardware at the moment? Depends on where your loyalties are.
As for the quality of the clone builds, they are okay, some might say better than the original. As for the R41Gold, it seems they are using FPGA with double the capacity of the Gateway. Sure you get more, but will the R41 team figure out what to do with all that extra space.
My money has been on the Gateway team from the start, if I were just coming into the scene, I think I would still choose Gateway.
This should be the Gateway team's motto:
You ain't seen nothing yet, the best is yet to come.
As for the quality of the clone builds, they are okay, some might say better than the original. As for the R41Gold, it seems they are using FPGA with double the capacity of the Gateway. Sure you get more, but will the R41 team figure out what to do with all that extra space.
My money has been on the Gateway team from the start, if I were just coming into the scene, I think I would still choose Gateway.
This should be the Gateway team's motto:
You ain't seen nothing yet, the best is yet to come.
I don't mind there being competition nor care about the ethics in this war. As a gateway user, the only thing that worries me is that support for my flashcart will decrease or be halted if people suddenly stop buying their product. If gateway sees that people are no longer buying the gateway 3ds and instead just buying a clone which does the same thing for cheaper, maybe they'll reconsider staying in business. The amount of r&d spent copying gateway is probably negligible compared to the amount of r&d spent to actually develop the firmware, so if the demand for both stays equal or favors r4+other clones, this may be bad news for all 3ds flashcart users altogether. I have yet to see clones prove themselves with something original on the 3ds, so if gateway is discontinued, it may just mean no more support for newer stuff.
It may not be a bad move for Gateway to drop the price of their product a bit to entice consumers to buy "the original". I think that as long as gateway keeps developing original stuff, other teams will probably just copy whatever gets made. Why spend time and money developing your own stuff when you can just copy the product and reap the benefits? I have a feeling demand may start shifting towards the R4 as I don't have much faith on people paying extra so that others may benefit.
It may not be a bad move for Gateway to drop the price of their product a bit to entice consumers to buy "the original". I think that as long as gateway keeps developing original stuff, other teams will probably just copy whatever gets made. Why spend time and money developing your own stuff when you can just copy the product and reap the benefits? I have a feeling demand may start shifting towards the R4 as I don't have much faith on people paying extra so that others may benefit.
I feel like Gateway was the first, so they had the right to set any price they wanted for their new little invention, and it was inevitable that someone else would cash-in on Gateway's large price, and sell for cheaper. It probably costs these guys what, 20 bucks to make the 3DS starter card?
And hey, the mix of different cards just means we'll see everyone competing, which is great at a consumer point of view because if one card gets one feature, the other cards need to get it too, to keep making money.
And hey, the mix of different cards just means we'll see everyone competing, which is great at a consumer point of view because if one card gets one feature, the other cards need to get it too, to keep making money.
I agree - clones are expensive too and I'd rather put my money on the reliable one.
btw, I heard that multirom support wasn't coming with 2.0, but since the beta is out is there a glimmer of hope that multirom is coming with the final 2.0 fw?
EDIT: Woah, seems like it's coming before christmas
So the 3ds link and r4i are exactly the same ? I found 3ds link at 41$ and now I think I should buy it instead of r4i gold
but first .. is the blue card that play the ds game is the same in those two card ? I know r4i gold blue card can work in 7.0 and have the wood kernel
does 3ds link have the same ?
but first .. is the blue card that play the ds game is the same in those two card ? I know r4i gold blue card can work in 7.0 and have the wood kernel
does 3ds link have the same ?
The blue cartridge is essentially the same as any regular DS flash kit. In terms of identity, they are the same, but picking between two poisons here, I would say go for the R4, or better yet the gateway.
thanks for the reply. but I still don't understand the difference in the blue card between r4 and link
I know gateway has the worst. it doesn't work after 6.2. I have another 3ds at 7.0 and I want to keep using the blue card in it
They are both the same in terms of functionality. They're simply DS flash carts that allow you to play Nintendo 3DS games. From what I have heard, the R4i's blue card has functionality to play DS games up to version 7.0.0.13, though, so if that's your overall aim I'd suggest you look there.
With the Gateway blue chip, it only goes up to ~6.1 or 6.2 if I recall correctly, but if you have any other Nintendo DS flash chips in your possession you can run the same exploit as it's a simple .NDS file.
I'd say not to get the 3DSLink, it's a clone from a company that just started pushing out carts, whereas the R4 team has been around for a very long time, and is know for supporting their products, until they're obsolete.
The blue card that comes with the R4i deluxe works with all versions of the 3DS firmware, and they still heavily support it, because it's not a clone, it's the real-deal.
Don't see any reason why R4 should same good as Gateway. Ofc. most of you have R4 becauseof money saving. But remember R4 only steal the Software and never done own stuff (ok they changed Logos and so on! Grats!)
I better wait a few days to get a professional Company making Firmware Updates etc.
PS: I have both Cards, but R4 isn'T worth for me at all^^ I simply hope Gateway make some BRICK Firmware for R4 to steal
I better wait a few days to get a professional Company making Firmware Updates etc.
PS: I have both Cards, but R4 isn'T worth for me at all^^ I simply hope Gateway make some BRICK Firmware for R4 to steal
Aren't there multiple companies using the R4 name, kind of like Ray's Pizza? The R4 name has a long history, and I'm sure cart makers are simply using the name to add credibility to their particular business, but I rather trust a company that makes their own history than simply borrow it. But then again, without all these R4 companies, Nintendo would focus their attack on the innovation "smaller" companies.
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