Gateway3DS Hands On Impression

[TemplarGR]

lol if that is how you think, you shouldn't game at all As they won't make you money until and unless you start developing them( for that you need to be qualified and be good at it which if you were you wouldn't be discussing overpricing issues over here. Even if you want to play 1-2 games still there is no harm in trying out others, and if you want to play online there is not point discussing this over here.

And I remember you complaining how the games were overpriced in your country, so atleast be on what your point is over here, if you don't have the money to buy this or the games don't come over here and complain. Wait for sometime and you would find yourself a cheaper clone, this thread is about Gateway 3ds Hands on Impression and not your complains. And I don't see how time is important to you when you are clearly wasting other people's time over here with your petty issues.

My friend, it seems to me you never had any lessons on logic...

For example, that the games are overpriced, doesn't mean that i have no money to buy them. They are just overpriced. Just because i have let's say 100 euros in my pocket, doesn't mean i will give 100 for a hamburger. If the humberger costs 100 euros, it is overpriced. Unless it is made of gold. That i don't want to be a sucker and pay that much, doesn't mean that it has the right price... Your point?

Second, if i am wasting your time, ignore my posts.

It is sad that people like you would love to silence anyone who has a different opinion. I thought forums are made for people to discuss things, express their opinions, and well, complain if the want to. Have a problem with that?

 

[tbgtbg]

How were you able to test it without both cards?

He ran the exploit installer with his supercard dstwo instead of the blue card.

because the Gateway Blue is just a R4ids.cn R4i Gold card
so you can just use any other flashcard

Ah, interesting.

 

[lafleche]

so that card can be patched for use on a 6.2.x 3ds with the firmware found on http://www.r4ids.cn/r4i-download-e.htm ???

 

[Pedeadstrian]

I currently have 17 ROMs waiting for when I get my Gateway, and I would have more if the damn scene peeps would release NA games and not EU ones. Obviously, if you only want 2 games, don't get Gateway. But think about it. If you want just 2 games, and a 3DSXL costs $200, you're spending $140 per game. How is that not overpriced? For my current ROM stock, $200 (it was actually $188 for me, but whatever) + $80 for Gateway, divided by 17 = approximately $17 per game. And that number will just get lower with more scene releases, and even lower if they get it working on higher firmwares.

So, TL;DR: Gateway rules, and so does Devin for taking time out of his life to deal with everyone's questions.

 

[chrisrlink]

My guess I doubt we or gateway will find a new exploit on 6.x and up; remember they can patch ANY kernel mode exploit we find even though hardware downgrading is possible.

 

[medoli900]

And, as I understood, double firmware is also possible!
That is one of the things I wait for...

 

[Pedeadstrian]

And, as I understood, double firmware is also possible!
That is one of the things I wait for...

Where did you hear that from?

 

[Pong20302000]

Huh? I've played NSMB2 just fine, I've also loaded a save from it.

its because NFO rush had a mistake with info about NSMB2 thinking it had NAND but I corrected them and they changed it

 

[FAST6191]

Where did you hear that from?

A couple of weeks back we got a thread where someone had downgraded their NAND. From there is a fairly short hop to get dual NAND. Indeed if you really wanted you could probably wire one up before the day is done (find an XD flash card as they are more or less raw NAND).
http://gbatemp.net/threads/3ds-xl-nand-dumps-and-downgrades.350873/ was the overview/portal post I made for it.

Actually, no it won't run the game on the lower firmware it just won't run at all sadly.

I'm saying what will happen when they get around it -_-

unless another kernel exploit is found

I saw rumblings but nothing has yet been confirmed -- are we actually looking at true version checks/library/function updates or just a simple string check?
To further Pong20302000's post though there are traditionally three methods of getting around version checks
1) You hack the game as much as it needs to work on an older firmware, can be trivial and can be almost impossible/a 9 year project.
2) You fake the version number it reports back and if you can any other checks. Though far from the only method there was some stuff on the Wii for this where people would start to update and turn it off before it completes, it would say new version for the games but have the older version bugs.
3) You run the real version of the firmware in memory but have the one you use for your exploit still there to launch it in the first place. Depending upon how you want to view it this is most hacks in the history of ever but going a bit more strict the JTAG hack on the 360 is a fine example of this.

Some combination of 2 and 3 are most likely here.

 

[Pedeadstrian]

A couple of weeks back we got a thread where someone had downgraded their NAND. From there is a fairly short hop to get dual NAND. Indeed if you really wanted you could probably wire one up before the day is done (find an XD flash card as they are more or less raw NAND).
http://gbatemp.net/threads/3ds-xl-nand-dumps-and-downgrades.350873/ was the overview/portal post I made for it.

Ah, I read about the NAND downgrade but didn't think about the possibility of dual firmware. I don't see a point of it myself (at present), unless you wanna be able to go back and forth between current firmware for e-shop, online, etc. and a pre-5.0 firmware for Gateway. Assuming Gateway stops functioning on all future release games, I would just get my fill of all the games currently supported by Gateway then update and continue playing future releases.

 

[medoli900]

Well I use online/eShop actively and I want my DS flashcard to work. So dual firmware is a great thing for me.

 

[FAST6191]

Yeah I am rarely sold on the idea of dual NAND for consoles unless the benefits come in the forms of different games supported and such like -- it just seems like a really aggravating version of the "how do I keep this file up to date" problem faced by those doing work across multiple machines. Indeed I reckon you would probably be better of dumping the 4.5 firmware and then going as you will safe in the knowledge you can probably revert.

That said it is not only gateway that have advised holding on 4.5 firmwares if hacking is your goal.

 

[The Real Jdbye]

Nothing new or surprising here, though I wonder why saves dumped with a hardware device don't work...

AWESOME!

I'm curious.
Every time you change a game to play on the GW3ds, do you need to change the .sav on the 3DS's SD card, or will the game recognize it?

(eg, the saves are all saved as 00000001.sav, so you need to swap it on your computer whenever you play a different game)

I'm willing to bet that they're saved under different filenames. It would make no sense for them to be saved under the same filename.
This has probably been answered already but I'm not reading through 7 pages

Ah, I read about the NAND downgrade but didn't think about the possibility of dual firmware. I don't see a point of it myself (at present), unless you wanna be able to go back and forth between current firmware for e-shop, online, etc. and a pre-5.0 firmware for Gateway. Assuming Gateway stops functioning on all future release games, I would just get my fill of all the games currently supported by Gateway then update and continue playing future releases.

This interests me a lot. If I could use the Gateway 3DS and still be able to have an updated system on another NAND for eShop games and other stuff then I would be a happy man.
As some people have mentioned patching the version check so the system thinks it's up to date when you try to run a newer game should be possible, so that combined with the ability to switch to another up to date NAND would make the Gateway a near perfect solution.

I see dual NAND modchips coming up in the near future
Wonder how hard one of those would be to install.... wouldn't wanna ruin my 3DS.

 

[KazoWAR]

This is just a hands on impression. The review will be posted once I've gotten more usage of the device.

I've tested it so far with;

32GB Adata Class 4 Micro SD Card
16GB Unbranded Class 4 Micro SD Card

I've yet to try a VM, I was going to message KazoWAR to see if he could reupload his GUI version.

what are you wanting again?

 

[Devin]

what are you wanting again?

Didn't you make a GUI for 3DS rom tool? I attempted to download it using your link, but the file was taken off.

 

[Pedeadstrian]

Didn't you make a GUI for 3DS rom tool? I attempted to download it using your link, but the file was taken off.

I found this in my downloads folder for ya: http://www.mediafire.com/download/8xhmtmdl0g9es88/3DSRTool_1_0_0_1_update..zip

 

[KazoWAR]

Didn't you make a GUI for 3DS rom tool? I attempted to download it using your link, but the file was taken off.

ok i was just asking because i was not sure what tool you was talking about,

http://www.mediafire.com/?aaraowzfgl7vvt5


damnit not again! i updated the program and replaced the link but all that was changed was text, the link still linked to the old link i fixed the link in the other thread aswell.

 

[Devin]

ok i was just asking because i was not sure what tool you was talking about,

http://www.mediafire.com/?aaraowzfgl7vvt5


damnit not again! i updated the program and replaced the link but all that was changed was text, the link still linked to the old link i fixed the link in the other thread aswell.

Thanks, works great. Trimmed roms do not work on the GW3DS sadly. Game doesn't show up at all.

 

[Pedeadstrian]

Thanks, works great. Trimmed roms do not work on the GW3DS sadly. Game doesn't show up at all.

Damn, that sucks. Looks like 4GB microSDs won't work on 4GB games.

 

[Isaiahplayspokem]

So how much would the Gateway cart by itself cost if someone sold it without the R4?