Fez II Cancelled Due to Dispute Between GameTrailers and Phil Fish

[xshoyz]

It'll be a shame if he actually quits development instead of simply leaving twitter, but he definitely receives a lot more, and a lot worse hate than the (admittedly bad) comments he himself gave. The messages following this announcement are just a hive-mind of hypocrites, there's very few people who criticize Fish with any more tact than he himself.

I personally just wish it was possible to read a single conversation about Fez the game without it simply turning into a bunch of Fish whining.

 

[TyBlood13]

so beer battered fish?

This made me laugh more than it should have.

On-topic: What a lame ass excuse, no matter which story you take is true. But I also agree that Fez probably shouldn't have a sequel, maybe an expansion, but it is quite alright the way it is

 

[FireEmblemGuy]

Phil Fish acted like a whiny fucking jackass? Holy shit, hold the presses!

Seriously, I'm not sure why anyone still takes the guy seriously. Fez wasn't a great game, by indie standards or otherwise, and his behavior has never earned him any credit either. I'm wondering why anyone still remembers who he is or cares what he's doing.

 

[Foxi4]

It'll be a shame if he actually quits development instead of simply leaving twitter, but he definitely receives a lot more, and a lot worse hate than the (admittedly bad) comments he himself gave. The messages following this announcement are just a hive-mind of hypocrites, there's very few people who criticize Fish with any more tact than he himself.

I personally just wish it was possible to read a single conversation about Fez the game without it simply turning into a bunch of Fish whining.

A product being liable to commentary and criticism? Oh dear, who would've thought?

Y'know, just because the game is an Indie title doesn't mean that it's some kind of a Holy Grail and it's not liable to any form of critique, same goes to its developers. If Fish does act like a whiny 5-year old, he will repeatedly hear that he's acting like a 5-year old and it shouldn't particularily shock him.

Handling criticism is one of the first things you need to learn when you're in any form of a "creative" business because people have varied tastes and they will always criticize - as an artist, you're supposed to "Fish out" the criticism that can improve your work and implement it whilst discarding the rest, not just flip out at your audience.

 

[Enchilada]

Damn. And I wanted Fez II.

 

[TVL]

This is the first I've heard about Fez II.

I think he's happy he found something external to blame for it's cancellation. It's probably a good thing for everyone. Why even waste time making another one directly after the first one, make something new.

It's more than a few of those big name indie devs that seems to be on the brink of a mental breakdown, maybe it's part of their creativity, and getting their heads straight might kill it?

 

[Deleted User]

Ah yes, the same guy who goes to critics saying "You don't like Fez? Well look at my awards, what have you earned?"

Phil, nobody even likes you, nobody gives a fuck.

 

[Bladexdsl]

that's hilarious a game dev actually let the tards on gametrailers get to him everyone knows you don't post there to get a serious discussion! and the prick deserved it

 

[T-hug]

I watched the episode yesterday and thought Marcus was being a bit harsh but for Phil to outright cancel the game over it is ridiculous.
Marcus annoyed gamer is a real douche imo anyway I hope GT drop him he comes across as if his opinion is that of every adult gamer when it's his own bullshit spin most of the time.
He did the same kind of thing with hiphopgamer only hhg replied via yt and called Marcus out and made him look like the muppet he is.
I don't really get why Marcus is relevant or a part of GT. Sure he dev'd on a few games forever ago but now he makes cash from videos saying controversial stuff that is mostly his own ignorant opinions.
He is more the annoying gamer than the annoyed gamer!

 

[lismati]

How is this news, even? Have you ever watched Indie Game The Movie? This guy acts like a bitch the entire time, and is butthurt to the max. So, the point is: Phil Fish has problems with himself, and nobody should take him seriously nor care for him.

 

[Vanth88]

I'm gonna say what everone else is thinking... Phil, you're a pussy!

 

[Kouen Hasuki]

Given a good % of the internet hound him every single day I can't blame him for saying fuck it.

Not like the dude can do or say anything without being made out to be an asshole over it.

 

[Hadrian]

This guy is such a self important whiny little man that abandoned my "always buy the games I like" stance with Fez, I don't care how hard he worked on that game the way he talked to people and the fans of his game is just deplorable.

I hope he is out of gaming and the public for good.

 

[Bladexdsl]

he made 1 game and because it somehow won a reward he thought himself to be high and mighty. about time someone knocked him off his pedestal

 

[Veho]

Though it does seem to be "taking my ball and going home"

This.

Also, http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/126385-Update-Fez-Dev-Tells-Media-Member-To-Kill-Himself

"The thing with us "tosspots" "hipsters" is that we're not beholden to media leeches like you, and you're right. we're VERY successful. And we're not going anywhere. Get used to it you middle-aged parasite. Compare your life to mine and then kill yourself. [sic]"

Seriously? He sounds like a whiny little bitch baby having a meltdown.

"To be clear, I'm not cancelling Fez II because some boorish fuck said something stupid, I'm doing it to get out of games. And I'm getting out of games because I choose not to put up with this abuse anymore."

I BEG YOU DON'T BAWW ;O; How cruelly they mistreat you, poor baby ;O;

I've seen 12-year-olds ragequit with more grace and dignity than this.

 

[Pedeadstrian]

Fez II? I never even knew there was a Fez I.

On topic: you know how fans would send in stuff to studios when their shows got cancelled, like a bunch of peanuts, socks, or the like? We should send him some rash cream, because he probably needs it.

 

[ggafot]

OH NO! Not the...... buggy indie garbage that nobody gives a flying fuck about!

Not that!

 

[Osha]

RIP in piss.

 

[The Real Jdbye]

So now everyone gets to suffer because he ragequit over a silly argument. What an ass.
I've never even heard of anything like this happening before. It's petty and childish.

 

[Taleweaver]

Just a question: how many of you have actually watched that gametrailers episode? (The part is near the beginning, so there's no need to watch the whole stuff).

I really scratched my head on it. My guess is that they've sent out Marcus with questions that neither Blow nor Fish were allowed to answer, which left Marcus with pretty much nothing to talk about. So he just goes below the belt and attacking them (and mostly Fish) personally. If you want to call someone immature, you can start right there. And it could just be me, but I think that talk show host (on the left on the screen) kinda wanted to redirect the trashtalking back into talking about talking about a game, but wasn't quite sure how to do it.

And another question: there are plenty of indie developers out there (he mentions the makers of torchlight, no less!). Instead of complaining that Blow and Fish get all the attention from the press (which is actually kind of complaining that he himself is giving him that attention), couldn't he just contact someone else, rather than expecting answers to questions they were probably not legally allowed to answer in the first place?


Quitting game development over this is probably kind of harsh, but I wouldn't call that definite either. The press plays a large part in the reception (and thus sales) of a game, and with this sort of incident it'll be hard to recover from. It's no incident that large companies spend many millions on publicity (in other words: more than the total budget of the average indie game). It's not exactly fair to expect the same sort of professionalism from small (or even one-man) companies, right?