Iwata: "I think the public view of Nintendo will be changed"

[ComeTurismO]

"So, what we really need to do now is to launch software titles for the Wii U that can take advantage of its unique aspects, one after the other," Iwata said. "So much so that a great number of people are able to touch the Wii U and feel how unique it is. We need to expand the number of such people. And once the number of people has reached critical mass, I think the public view of Nintendo will be changed."

Yeah, but the Wii U needs gaems.
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[EzekielRage]

And it gets games. This year alone there are at least five first party retail games to own and five to ten third party for retail and eShop. and while that doesnt sound like a lot, added to the good games already out xu have thirty to fourty good games for the system in its first year. not too shabby, considering that you cant play or afford all of them anyway. I know I cant.

For me, the remainderof the year is expensive enough with all I want...

 

[Foxi4]

And it gets games. This year alone there are at least five first party retail games to own and five to ten third party for retail and eShop. and while that doesnt sound like a lot, added to the good games already out xu have thirty to fourty good games for the system in its first year. not too shabby, considering that you cant play or afford all of them anyway. I know I cant.

For me, the remainderof the year is expensive enough with all I want...

Problem being that those titles are available on other systems that core gamers are likely to already own and they're hardly the definite versions at that - delayed DLC, barely any bonus features and so on and so forth do not validate the purchase of an expensive gaming system that doesn't provide the expected "jump" in comparison to last generation systems. The WiiU needs to start shining in terms of exclusive content.

 

[EzekielRage]

Very true. But as said, there are a bunch of first party and some EXCLUSIVE third party titles as well. From W101 (which looks really promising) to sonic (if its as good as colors on Wii its very good to the sonic olympics (those always sell) to name a few to the first party games of mario, zelda and donkey kong, those three sell as well and mvoe systems. not to mention pikmin...

 

[ChaosBoi]

I've pretty much come to the realization that every system will have no games in its first 2 years, then once that milestone has been passed, it'll slowly gain momentum. So as much as I love Nintendo, I don't expect any difference with the Wii U.

 

[Foxi4]

Very true. But as said, there are a bunch of first party and some EXCLUSIVE third party titles as well. From W101 (which looks really promising) to sonic (if its as good as colors on Wii its very good to the sonic olympics (those always sell) to name a few to the first party games of mario, zelda and donkey kong, those three sell as well and mvoe systems. not to mention pikmin...

Oh yeah, an HD remake of Wind Waker is sure to push the system.

As for Sonic Lost Worlds, I'm not particularily excited for that game - it's a Mario 3D Land look-alike and it doesn't have the "Sonic" feel that could interest me. If it was Sonic Adventure 3, then we'd be talking. As it stands, "meh". The new Mario game looks just like Mario Land 3D as well, it's just on a bigger system. That leaves Donkey Kong, which has limited appeal - limited to the Nintendo fanbase. What the WiiU needs is another Metroid Prime, but apparently Retro studios are too busy farting in their chairs to make a game that'd worthwhile.

 

[Taleweaver]

We need to expand the number of such people.

And once the number of people has reached critical mass, I think the public view of Nintendo will be changed.

Yeah...or you can turn it around and do some marketing to change the public view of nintendo. That might help to expand the number of such people.




Also: @OP: can you please not use dark color text? All I'm seeing is an "S (yes, I'm using the dark theme).

 

[EzekielRage]

Well Mario 3D Land sold significantly better than Galaxy did so people not like us (I also would prefer a Galaxy like game) are buying this. Also I am sure Wind Waker HD will sell, considering how it is a cult classic nowadays. But as ever, time will tell and I am sure in a few months we are all the wiser^^

 

[ComeTurismO]

Yeah...or you can turn it around and do some marketing to change the public view of nintendo. That might help to expand the number of such people.




Also: @OP: can you please not use dark color text? All I'm seeing is an "S (yes, I'm using the dark theme).

Alright, fixed.

 

[Taleweaver]

Alright, fixed.

Thanx.

 

[Foxi4]

Well Mario 3D Land sold significantly better than Galaxy did so people not like us (I also would prefer a Galaxy like game) are buying this. Also I am sure Wind Waker HD will sell, considering how it is a cult classic nowadays. But as ever, time will tell and I am sure in a few months we are all the wiser^^

It's odd how everybody seems to have played Wind Waker and nobody actually bought it (because the Gamecube sold poorly and all that) but hey - with Nintendo's strategy of selling old games with a facelift for the price of a brand-new game (Starfox 64, LoZ OoT3D) it just may rake in some cash to their bucket. I still can't believe people actually fall for that.

 

[EzekielRage]

We "fall" for that because we love those games and sometimes the upgrades really bring out the best possible version. Sure, StarFox 643DS was not the best version but Ocarina of Time 3D was by far the best version of the game and a much more complete experience. And Wind waker arguably has a bunch of flaws that, once fixed (and they will as they already did as shown in some gameplay videos where at least some of the flaws were adressed) it could very well be the best 3D Zelda.

It is true, its cheaper to develop those games than new ones but i wouldnt say we fall for it. If people buy it obivously they want it, so why not make it? As already stated in another thread, its all about diversity and that includes remakes. Better than the same COD or FIFA game every year...

 

[mkdms14]

Yeah, but the Wii U needs gaems.
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I really hope they keep there word and come out with an ID system for the digital downloads. I think its dumb that you can only buy the game for the system if the system breaks or is stolen you are out of luck. It also doesn't help that digital games are just as expensive as physical retail games either. Right now when it comes to Nintendo products its best to stay physical retail.

By the way you spelled games wrong. I also just reach the milestone that all new member should strive for 100 post counting this one. I only been on it for a year and a half.

 

[Foxi4]

We "fall" for that because we love those games and sometimes the upgrades really bring out the best possible version. Sure, StarFox 643DS was not the best version but Ocarina of Time 3D was by far the best version of the game and a much more complete experience.

I played the game and it feels just like the original... which is a bad thing, paradoxically - it feels like it's a 14 year old game. It feels old, unpolished, dated. That's not how good remakes are made. A remake is an opportunity to reinvision a game - if their intention was adding slightly higher-res textures and slightly better models, they could've ported the original and it'd take less time to develop.

Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes was a complete remake of Metal Gear Solid for the Gamecube - it featured sparkling new models, higher resolution textures and new game mechanics such as First Person View borrowed from Metal Gear Solid 2. If felt like a brand-new title which merely shared the story of the original - OoT3D is nothing like that, it feels dated and has barely any new content in it. Look at how great HeartGold and SoulSilver were - that's how you make a remake. Everything was brand-new and it felt like it. The price is also a problem here - if your game is going to be straight-up the same as the original then adjust the price to reflect that.

And Wind waker arguably has a bunch of flaws that, once fixed (and they will as they already did as shown in some gameplay videos where at least some of the flaws were adressed) it could very well be the best 3D Zelda.

You can't fix the entire art design which I personally hate, but hey - that's a matter of taste. Some people like it, some hate it. I'm more of a TP/SS person.

It is true, its cheaper to develop those games than new ones but i wouldnt say we fall for it. If people buy it obivously they want it, so why not make it? As already stated in another thread, its all about diversity and that includes remakes. Better than the same COD or FIFA game every year...

Remakes and ports the way OoT3D was made are not introducing diversity, especially if they're poor. They're the equivalent of serving an old, reheated and greasy burger - not only you've already tasted it, it tasted better when it was new. As for yearly COD releases, at least those have sparkling new content in them - something I can't quite say about OoT3D, Starfox3D and knowing life, soon also Wind Waker U.

 

[emigre]

If Iwata wants people wants people to 'feel' how unique the WiiU is, how about Nintendo make some games which actually use the second screen for substantive reasons. Nintendoland alone is nowhere near enough.

 

[EzekielRage]

I love the WW style, I also love the SS style but TP was rather dull in my opinion. As you said, tis a matter of taste. If you have a WiiU you dont have to buy the game and if you dont, why bother?^^

 

[Foxi4]

I love the WW style, I also love the SS style but TP was rather dull in my opinion. As you said, tis a matter of taste. If you have a WiiU you dont have to buy the game and if you dont, why bother?^^

Let's put it this way - I want to "want" a WiiU, but its current offering or the plans for its future are certainly not helping me in that regard.

 

[EzekielRage]

Well then once again time willt ell if that changes or not. Patience is a virtue, one I personally lack though

 

[jonthedit]

I will buy U once U decide to make U region Frii

 

[ComeTurismO]

I really hope they keep there word and come out with an ID system for the digital downloads. I think its dumb that you can only buy the game for the system if the system breaks or is stolen you are out of luck. It also doesn't help that digital games are just as expensive as physical retail games either. Right now when it comes to Nintendo products its best to stay physical retail.

By the way you spelled games wrong. I also just reach the milestone that all new member should strive for 100 post counting this one. I only been on it for a year and a half.

I know I mispelled games. I use that word to emphasize and joke, other members do the same.