Piracy

[Catastrophic]

I do pirate quite much actually. Not just because it gives me access to a much wider variety of games, but because I can't resist the temptation

 

[JulietStMoon]

I do pirate quite much actually. Not just because it gives me access to a much wider variety of games, but because I can't resist the temptation

How catastrophic.

But seriously, hey now, at least you're honest about why.

 

[Catastrophic]

How catastrophic.

But seriously, hey now, at least you're honest about why.

why does everyone keep making that joke?

 

[JulietStMoon]

why does everyone keep making that joke?

I don't know. That sounds so cata...

Never mind.

 

[Vulpes Abnocto]

I'd like to see this conversation be less about jokes and more about reasoning, if at all possible.

 

[ShadowSoldier]

Winner of this debate shall receive the title : Master Debater. (yes lame, please dont hit me )

Sounds dirty.... i like it.

Anyways, I don't agree with it at all. No reason to agree with it.

The way I see it, it's kind of the same as buying a used game. When you buy a used game, none of your money goes to developers or anything, it all goes to the store (ala GameStop, EB Games.. etc). When you pirate a game (yes I'm using game as an example), none of your money goes to anybody. Iono, it's just how I think.

 

[JulietStMoon]

Sounds dirty.... i like it.

Anyways, I don't agree with it at all. No reason to agree with it.

The way I see it, it's kind of the same as buying a used game. When you buy a used game, none of your money goes to developers or anything, it all goes to the store (ala GameStop, EB Games.. etc). When you pirate a game (yes I'm using game as an example), none of your money goes to anybody. Iono, it's just how I think.

So are you saying that you think buying used games is (almost) as bad as piracy? Or did I miss something?

 

[Armadillo]

I simply don't care. Everyone is screwing each other one way or another, piracy is just an extension of that.

 

[ShadowSoldier]

So are you saying that you think buying used games is (almost) as bad as piracy? Or did I miss something?

No, I buy used games, but at least you paid for them legally. I'm just saying, either way, money isn't going to developers for work they've done, when it should be.

 

[Xenirina]

Well, looking from the poll, most people agree with piracy.
So why is that? I really wonder why so many people here agree with it, but the rest of the world hate it...

 

[JulietStMoon]

Well, looking from the poll, most people agree with piracy.
So why is that? I really wonder why so many people here agree with it, but the rest of the world hate it...

You have to remember, though GBAtemp has strict rules against hosting ROMs and wares and even links to sites that do, it has a large community for hacking, flash carts, etc. Plus, it used to be a site specifically for hosting ROMs. So it makes sense to me that most people on this site would be ok with it.

 

[Xenirina]

You have to remember, though GBAtemp has strict rules against hosting ROMs and wares and even links to sites that do, it has a large community for hacking, flash carts, etc. Plus, it used to be a site specifically for hosting ROMs. So it makes sense to me that most people on this site would be ok with it.

Yeah, I suppose so.
And I didn't know that. When did it change its rules?

 

[JulietStMoon]

Yeah, I suppose so.
And I didn't know that. When did it change its rules?

Idk, I wasn't around at the time. This is just something I heard on another thread. Don't quote me on it. It was a LONG time ago, back in the GBA days.

 

[BORTZ]

About half a year into the forums life, the staff had to come to the decision that ROMs would no longer be available to download from GBAtemp, and all warez and other illegal material would be ruled out on the forum. The reason this was done is because a lot of members and the staff themselves had really come to appreciate the forums and each other, and didn't want to risk losing the community they had built up. So to avoid legal issues and to make sure GBAtemp was never shut down, all ROMs, ROM links, warez and more were now strictly forbidden on the 'new GBAtemp'.

 

[Latiken]

Idk, I wasn't around at the time. This is just something I heard on another thread. Don't quote me on it. It was a LONG time ago, back in the GBA days.

Yeah, I heard this too. It's kinda hard to believe especially since everyone is strict with Roms (including me ). At least now it's legal. I would hate for GBATemp to get taken down.
Then, I wouldn't have anything to do...

 

[emigre]

GBAtemp's name is in reference to piracy.

YEAH, I CAN HEAR THOSE MINDS BEING BLOWN!

 

[Engert]

As much as the developers hate it, without hacking (which includes piracy) there is no improvement.
Hacking should and will continue.
Hackers improve the software by finding exploits.
That's why GPL related software are better than commercial software because there are many minds working together not a closed loop of people.

 

[Deleted_171835]

During the DS-era, there were a shitload of great games coming out each month but I couldn't possibly afford to buy all of them. Piracy has allowed to me play games such as Ghost Trick, Hotel Dusk, Ace Attorney, I could go on.

The way I see it is that without piracy, I wouldn't have been able to experience so many great games.

 

[DJ91990]

I agree with piracy and here is why:
Piracy is not as damaging as the IP holders make it out to be, in fact, piracy actually helps drive up sells!
Imagine there is a video game that is not released in your country, in order to play the game you must pirate it, because let's face it, would you go out of your way to pay close to $100.00 for a video game to be imported? If you do, then more power to you, as for the rest of us, we resort to piracy.
Not all video games have demos, and with the lack of video game rental stores/services and if your friend doesn't have the game, piracy is the only way to try a game before you buy it. Many people (myself included) have pirated Minecraft before we have later bought it. (I pirated Minecraft mainly for two reasons; to see how well I like it, and to see how well it runs on my PC. As soon as I got a PC that was able to run Minecraft, I bought it.)

Piracy also helps corporations expand their potential sells. If a smart company sees that a specific media is being pirated in a country that does not domestically have access to the specific media, they will see the potential profits. You will then notice that the smart companies will then start to sell the media in that country and because so many people were exposed to it, thanks to piracy, more people buy the media than projected.

Combating piracy is like trying to stop the sun from setting each day. There will always be pirates. When stupid companies try to combat piracy, four times out of five, it inconveniences the end user (Always online DRM, limited installations, Multiplayer passes, SECUROM, etc.) and the end-user then resorts to piracy to be able to use the product that they have bought.

Piracy is not stealing. When something is pirated, a copy of the original is created. A physical stock is not stolen, that physical stock can still be sold, and the money invested in creating that stock can still be returned. Piracy also enables retro gamers to be able to play video games from old consoles without investing a large amount of money. (Some retro games, depending on rarity and condition can be sold upwards of $100.00 or so!) Piracy also allows the ability of fan-hacks and translations, something that allot of members on this forum enjoy. Let's take the recent Fire Emblem game that was recently completely translated into English. You would have had to have pirated the ROM or dumped the ROM from a phyisical copy that you have imported. But according to IP holders, creating a backup copy is just as bad as pirating. (Don't believe me? Take a look at the legal mumbo-jumbo in your instruction books. It will say how creating backups are not needed to protect your game and doing so invalidates your warranty. Also in some countries, creating backups is considered conspiring to commit piracy and is illegal, which I think is completely wrong and unjust.)

Piracy is like recreational drugs in a way, it is only wrong because people in power want to demonize it. People will always do what they want to do, regardless if it is lawful or not. Also piracy does more help than harm and helps drive sells by basically serving as free advertisement. We cannot treat video game and software piracy the same as motion picture and music piracy, because unlike movies, books, and music, video games can offer a different experience to each individual.

 

[DJPlace]

i only use piracy on systems that can be hacked.