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3) How is it Sony's fault if the consumer loses their memory stick or it gets full? The original point is ridiculous. My original point was that the memory stick is not necessarily a one time buy. And I know it's not Sony fault, but a disadvantage in using their own proprietary format. :sleep:

Its a disadvantage with just about every memory format in the history of the world.

I guess I didn't elaborate my point, it is better to buy another micro sd card which is cheaper and can be used with a tons of other devices than a memory stick. I just mentioned because I read people saying things like "So what, the memory stick is expensive? It's a one time buy" and things like that. Well, i guess I didn't elaborate well my own idea...
 

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I am interested in the Vita, it's just too expensive.
There have been some great sales on the device.

This thread isn't just about sales. I just listed some features and some numbers. I wasn't trying to dump on the Vita I am going to buy a 3DS or Vita this black friday. I even track deals and have topics deals for both systems. BortzANATOR covered competition which seemed to be the only post in the thread going over something that hasn't been listed.


The Vita is probably not selling for enormous profit per console and the memory sticks are a way of covering their costs.
That information is in the op I know it isn't the most clear but it has information in it.
 
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I guess I didn't elaborate my point, it is better to buy another micro sd card which is cheaper and can be used with a tons of other devices than a memory stick. I just mentioned because I read people saying things like "So what, the memory stick is expensive? It's a one time buy" and things like that. Well, i guess I didn't elaborate well my own idea...

SD and the Memory Stick format are not in competition. The latter is only used with the Vita. The former is not used with the Vita.
 

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There are adapters for Micro SD to SD however Micro SD is more expensive than SD as a 64GB Micro SD usually sells for around $90AUD but I don't complain about any of this since I knew what I might have needed to spend when getting a device that uses it same happened with the Vita since I knew I would need to buy a memory card. I have every right to criticize your logic and if its illogical I have every right to bash it but seeing as you made a mistake with your wording and I guess I misread because of that I apologise.

I felt a little offended and sad with your original post, you do have the right to criticize my logic since I'm not a perfect human being, you also have the right to bash if it's wrong, but it's your choice to do it or not. I was only saying you can be nice with other people if you want to, but sorry if I bothered you, really! And I accept your apologies and I apologize myself if I done anything wrong. :)
 

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There are a lot of reason why Vita is doing so poorly,

* Use of proprietary memory with premium price.
You could go around this with a 4GB memory card and swapping games to and from PC/PS3. However the process is slow and time is money. Sony could've continue the use of Memory Stick Duo which is actually cheaper and faster than Vita memory. 32 GB MS Duo now cost as low as $50 vs $80 for Vita memory. Expensive memory format is an obstacle to digital library. You cannot compare it to PS2 because PS2 only has saves on its memory card.

* Lack of advertisement
Both Nintendo and Sony have poor advertisement but at least Nintendo is being aggressive and Sony is not.

* High price and few games
Combination of big price tag (3DS XL is cheaper than standard Vita), lack of advertisement, high cost to Vita memory = high cost and little incentive to buy Vita = poor system sales.
This in return discourage developers to make games for Vita which further fueled poor system sales.
 

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You don't seem to understand.
It is too expensive.
The part after "There have been some great sales on the device." wasn't directed towards you. I understand it may seem too expensive to you but from Sony's POV it is probably the lowest price point they can list it at and hope to gain any profit from it. The PSP released for $300 MSRP which was probably a realistic price at the time.
 
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There are adapters for Micro SD to SD however Micro SD is more expensive than SD as a 64GB Micro SD usually sells for around $90AUD but I don't complain about any of this since I knew what I might have needed to spend when getting a device that uses it same happened with the Vita since I knew I would need to buy a memory card. I have every right to criticize your logic and if its illogical I have every right to bash it but seeing as you made a mistake with your wording and I guess I misread because of that I apologise.

I felt a little offended and sad with your original post, you do have the right to criticize my logic since I'm not a perfect human being, you also have the right to bash if it's wrong, but it's your choice to do it or not. I was only saying you can be nice with other people if you want to, but sorry if I bothered you, really! And I accept your apologies and I apologize myself if I done anything wrong. :)
Nah you didn't bother me at all but in fairness technology changes and if you want to keep up you need to throw away the old and buy the new, thats how the system works.

I am interested in the Vita, it's just too expensive.
There have been some great sales on the device.
You don't seem to understand.
It is too expensive.
It is the same price as the 3DS when it was launched.
 

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It is the same price as the 3DS when it was launched.
How does that justify the price?
Correct me if I am wrong, but in the Vita's case the price is more than justified, due to its capabilities/hardware. Do note that I am not saying it should never go down in price or anything >>;
 

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It is the same price as the 3DS when it was launched.
How does that justify the price?
Correct me if I am wrong, but in the Vita's case the price is more than justified, due to its capabilities/hardware. Do note that I am not saying it should never go down in price or anything >>;
This. Hardware wise the price is has more justification than the 3DS which only got what a few hardware upgrades while the Vita from the PSP was alot more significant. I want the price to be lower as well as everyone else but its not like the 3DS can justify its launch and current price anyway.
 
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This. Hardware wise the price is has more justification than the 3DS which only got what a few hardware upgrades while the Vita from the PSP was alot more significant. I want the price to be lower as well as everyone else but its not like the 3DS can justify its launch and current price anyway.
...what? The Vita isn't worth it at the current price for many people because of its game library.
 

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This. Hardware wise the price is has more justification than the 3DS which only got what a few hardware upgrades while the Vita from the PSP was alot more significant. I want the price to be lower as well as everyone else but its not like the 3DS can justify its launch and current price anyway.
...what? The Vita isn't worth it at the current price for many people because of its game library.
So they should drop the price according to what most people are willing to pay for a device? I wish they could do that but they want to make money on it.
 
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This. Hardware wise the price is has more justification than the 3DS which only got what a few hardware upgrades while the Vita from the PSP was alot more significant. I want the price to be lower as well as everyone else but its not like the 3DS can justify its launch and current price anyway.
...what? The Vita isn't worth it at the current price for many people because of its game library.
Did I say I never want it cheaper?

For many people that don't own one yes its not worth it unless the Vita actually had something worth getting and P4 for me was the whole reason for having one. Plus I got bored of my 3DS way sooner before I got bored with my Vita. My phone in comparison is more entertaining though.
 
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Did I say I never want it cheaper?

For many people that don't own one yes its not worth it unless the Vita actually had something worth getting and P4 for me was the whole reason for having one. Plus I got bored of my 3DS way sooner before I got bored with my Vita. My phone in comparison is more entertaining though.
I don't care.


My whole point is that just because the 3DS was priced at $250 doesn't automatically make it okay for the Vita to be $250. Consumers just don't want a handheld that costs that much especially with such a paltry game library.
 

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My whole point is that just because the 3DS was priced at $250 doesn't automatically make it okay for the Vita to be $250. Consumers just don't want a handheld that costs that much especially with such a paltry game library.
You've got to understand they have to make a profit on the device. The PS3 is a commercial failure unless it gets billions of dollars soon and they don't want a repeat of the PS3. Not to mention they will announce the PS4 sooner or later.
 
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So its not okay for a device superior hardware to be sold at the same price as a console that is hardly a stop forward in portable gaming and relies on nostaljia to sell better? Well if we all live in the idiotic world of soulx then sure that shit makes sense but fortunately we don't and companies can price their devices how they want. Like I said earlier the Vita's price is alot more justified than the 3DS and I would love to see how you rationalize the 3DS's launch and current price tag since its not even worth $250 when the only thing it can really do is play 3DS games while others atleast can do more than that.
 

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