No More 3DS Models in the Near Future

[Deleted User]

Satoru Iwata confirmed that there won't be new 3DS remodels in the near future. He said that the 3DS XL was made soley for the need for bigger screens. So don't get your hopes up about getting the 3DS Pro XL next year.

Kotaku​

 

[Foxi4]

Yeah, we heard that once already, a month before the XL was announced, Iwata. You're not exactly f*cking trustworthy.

I'm still waiting for a 3DS Lite, sorry.

 

[Slyakin]

And when 3DS XL sales falter...

LOLJK 3DS PRO

In all honesty though, I know that the 3DS XL isn't a remade 3DS. Iwata's promise of 3DS remakes still holds true.

 

[Tom Bombadildo]

3 months later:

"NOW ANNOUNCING THE 3DS XL LITE!"

 

[SSVAV]

You know the drill. Just wait one more year.

 

[Deleted_171835]

Yeah, we heard that one a month before the XL was released, Iwata. You're not exactly f*cking trust-worthy.

I'm still waiting for a 3DS Lite, sorry.

I chose that example as a recent showing of how sites assuming too much information that wasn't in the source can lead people to believe things that aren't true. A while back Nintendo said they had no plans for a full revision of the unit, then months later they release an XL version (like the DSi XL), which comes a while after their statement (which stated that they didn't have plans at the time) and isn't a revision (as it's sold alongside the original, just like the DSi XL is).

Rydian said it best. It isn't a revision, just a 3DS on steroids that's sold alongside the existing system.

 

[Rydian]

Yeah, we heard that one a month before the XL was released, Iwata. You're not exactly f*cking trust-worthy.

No, he didn't say there wouldn't be an XL, people just kept rephrasing the words until it meant something other than the original meaning.

 

[DarkStriker]

A question i've been wondering for awhile. Don't they get empty for money when they just do all those crap like that? Are they actually earning on those new models?

 

[GameWinner]

Yeah sure we all know what happens when when you say you aren't planning nor working on a new system.

 

[Deleted_171835]

A question i've been wondering for awhile. Don't they get empty for money when they just do all those crap like that? Are they actually earning on those new models?

Huh...?

How would they lose money from making a new model?

 

[Foxi4]

Rydian said it best. It isn't a revision, just a 3DS on steroids that's sold alongside the existing system.

Sorry, but no.

A revision is the exact same hardware that's put in new, revised form-factor. What you're thinking of is a successor. The DS Lite is a revised DS, a DSi is the DS's successor. There's a massive difference. The fact whether or not the two systems are sold alongside eachother is irrelevant - the 3DS XL is a revision of the 3DS system.

 

[DarkStriker]

Huh...?

How would they lose money from making a new model?

The cost to manufacture it?

 

[CharmingLugia]

And here I was waiting for my Nintendo 3DS XXXXXXXXXXXXL Lite. Damn!

 

[Rydian]

Rydian said it best. It isn't a revision, just a 3DS on steroids that's sold alongside the existing system.

Sorry, but no.

A revision is the exact same hardware that's put in new, revised form-factor. What you're thinking of is a successor. The DS Lite is a revised DS, a DSi is the DS's successor. There's a massive difference. The fact whether or not the two systems are sold alongside eachother is irrelevant - the 3DS XL is a revision of the 3DS system.

Okay then, find me a quote where they directly say there will be no 3DS XL.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/06/12/nintendo-working-on-future-handheld-generation

"I really feel like I'm satisfied with the 3DS hardware as it is. I feel like it's the best for this generation," Miyamoto told me, when I asked about the Nikkei's recent report about a 3DS XL, and whether his company did have plans for something similar. The Nintendo executive noted that his company is always thinking about what's next. "What we're thinking about right now is probably going to be for a future generation of handheld."

The problem is people keep extrapolating interviews and quotes like that to include what they think they mean or what they think is being said, then news sites that report on those reports think the extrapolation is true and extrapolate a bit more, etc.

AGAIN, people change the meaning of words and quotes until they no longer state what the original statement was.

 

[Deleted_171835]

Huh...?

How would they lose money from making a new model?

The cost to manufacture it?

Which is offset by the price they sell it at.


Using that logic, all companies would lose money whenever they release a product.

 

[Foxi4]

"I really feel like I'm satisfied with the 3DS hardware as it is. I feel like it's the best for this generation," Miyamoto told me, when I asked about the Nikkei's recent report about a 3DS XL, and whether his company did have plans for something similar. The Nintendo executive noted that his company is always thinking about what's next. "What we're thinking about right now is probably going to be for a future generation of handheld."

The problem is people keep extrapolating interviews and quotes like that to include what they think they mean or what they think is being said, then news sites that report on those reports think the extrapolation is true and extrapolate a bit more, etc.

AGAIN, people change the meaning of words and quotes until they no longer state what the original statement was.

Being happy with the current design and thinking about the next generation of handheld instead is hard to misinterpret - it's being happy with the current design and gathering ideas for a successor, not a revision or redesign. I don't see that as misinterpretation at all.

 

[Rydian]

"I really feel like I'm satisfied with the 3DS hardware as it is. I feel like it's the best for this generation," Miyamoto told me, when I asked about the Nikkei's recent report about a 3DS XL, and whether his company did have plans for something similar. The Nintendo executive noted that his company is always thinking about what's next. "What we're thinking about right now is probably going to be for a future generation of handheld."

The problem is people keep extrapolating interviews and quotes like that to include what they think they mean or what they think is being said, then news sites that report on those reports think the extrapolation is true and extrapolate a bit more, etc.

AGAIN, people change the meaning of words and quotes until they no longer state what the original statement was.

Being happy with the current design and thinking about the next generation of handheld instead is hard to misinterpret - it's being happy with the current design and gathering ideas for a successor, not a revision or redesign. I don't see that as misinterpretation at all.

My concern is not with people interpreting things for anticipation, my concern is when people take that quote and say "Nintendo said there will not be a 3DS XL" and throw a piss-fit when they think they're being lied to.

DS to DSi is an obvious revision example (dropping backwards compatibility like the PS3 did, for example). DSi to DSi XL is a secondary model sold alongside the first, just like 3DS and 3DS XL.

 

[OJClock]

osbourne effect waddup

 

[Foxi4]

DS to DSi is an obvious revision example (dropping backwards compatibility like the PS3 did, for example). DSi to DSi XL is a secondary model sold alongside the first, just like 3DS and 3DS XL.

This is what bugs me. The DSi is not a revision - it's a new system entirely. It's based on new hardware and supports DS games via a compatibility layer. Even Nintendo states it's a revision of the DS, and it's really not. Thinking along those lines, you could call the Wii a revision of the Gamecube, and it's not - it's an entirely new console. The fact that it got little attention and hardly any exclusive titles doesn't matter - it's a new system based on new CPU's with much more RAM than its predecessor, and it's a shame that its capabilities were never fully utilized due to the large DS userbase. The DSi XL - now that's a revision. The same hardware in a revised form-factor.

 

[Rydian]

DS to DSi is an obvious revision example (dropping backwards compatibility like the PS3 did, for example). DSi to DSi XL is a secondary model sold alongside the first, just like 3DS and 3DS XL.

This is what bugs me. The DSi is not a revision - it's a new system entirely. It's based on new hardware and supports DS games via a compatibility layer. Even Nintendo states it's a revision of the DS, and it's really not. Thinking along those lines, you could call the Wii a revision of the Gamecube, and it's not - it's an entirely new console. The fact that it got little attention and hardly any exclusive titles doesn't matter - it's a new system based on new CPU's with much more RAM than its predecessor, and it's a shame that its capabilities were never fully utilized due to the large DS userbase. The DSi XL - now that's a revision. The same hardware in a revised form-factor.

The terms can vary (especially when comparing both the DS Lite and DSi to the original DS), my main concern is that Nintendo never said there would not be a 3DS XL (in fact they're notably silent on confirming or denying, as that was shortly before the reveal).