Is VLC Video Player good or bad?

[Rydian]

"Chose not to accept it"? I'm just not a fan of anecdotal evidence.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anecdotal_evidence

That said, since you're grapsing at straws to try to make me out like a bad guy, here, have some MORE proof that the flaws exist in the original video file, using your more recent example.

MPC

Three color samples, from left to right.
RGB 151514 - HSV 60,5,8
RGB 161615 - HSV 60,5,9
RGB 171716 - HSV 60,4,9

VLC

RGB 141414 - HSV 0,0,8
RGB 161616 - HSV 0,0,9
RGB 171717 - HSV 0,0,9

So we can come to two conclusions from comparing the values.

1 - The relative difference between the two IS THE SAME. Between the three spots, the difference is ONE point in each of the the R, B, and G values in both situations.

2 - MPC appears to be doing color-correction to make the banding in the original source file less evident. VLC seems to be displaying it as is without color-correction.

I don't have time right now to do the earlier example as well, I'll do it later tonight or tomorrow, gotta' run as it is.

As for the subtitle rendering errors. I don't have anything to say in defense about that, if that's how VLC was rendering it, that's VLC's fault.



EDIT: I'm back, and looking at the previous example you gave it looks like there's upscaling going on, meaning that's not the original resolution, so measurements of the colors will be incorrect. Grab a different example from me at 100% display, like the bartender one?

 

[Centrix]

I think its all preference, what you like or don't like! I like Foobar 2000 for my audio and KMPlayer for my video!

 

[Ziggy Zigzagoon]

I had experiences with VLC. While VLC does play a lot of formats, the controls were hard to manage.
Maybe I should try again, though...

Rofl. There exist other players that play MORE formats than the VLC. Its overrated really.

To be serious, what are these more capable players?

 

[DarkStriker]

I had experiences with VLC. While VLC does play a lot of formats, the controls were hard to manage.
Maybe I should try again, though...

Rofl. There exist other players that play MORE formats than the VLC. Its overrated really.

To be serious, what are these more capable players?

CCCP is one. Though the issue now is not formats, but the quality it has to offer.VLC suffers the issue of green screen from 10bits videos. Thats already a turn off. Not to mention almost all players now can run 10bits. Start reading this thread and maybe your head will finally understand why they dont like VLC. VLC was good, but not anymore.

 

[SifJar]

To be serious, what are these more capable players?

Without codecs, none. With codecs, most media players in existence can play virtually every media format.

 

[kylster]

Sorry I didnt have time to read all the posts albeit I was reading some from my phone and in reference to 10bit depth encodes it saves you about 100MiB of space on a 24min anime and the quality is the same or better then 8bit encodes depending if you drop the bit rate or keep it the same; either way you still save space when encoding in 10bit depth. So I will post a few links so you can see the info for yourself

minitheatre.org/forum/10-general-encoding/139393-8bit-vs-10bit-tests.html
minitheatre.org/forum/11-x264h264/117470-10-bit-encoding-x264-hi10p.html
http://3xr-ani.me/?p=154
http://animeshoko.blogspot.com/p/about-us.html
http://www.unanimecorp.com/news/3-10bit-depth-hi10p/
http://haruhichan.com/wpblog/index.php/205/hi10p-info-guide.html (THIS IS A GOOD ONE!)

Have fun reading

 

[1NOOB]

vlc's shuffle sucks , only bad comment i have for it lol


i usually start my tv show directory on random , since my collection si mostly show without a continuity (family guy ,tiny toon ,criminal mind .....(its like my own channel with only my favorite show and an unknown schedule where i can also choose which episode i want )) and vlc is the one i find playing the same episodes too often

 

[SakuDarkside]

Someone mentioned it already, but I recommend the CCCP (Combined Community Codec Pack), I use it with MKV and MP4 H264, and it is high performance player for his codecs (I mean, uses less RAM, CPU and VGA)

Here's a link ~ http://www.cccp-project.net/

 

[Ericthegreat]

VLC did not play 10 bit encodes till recently, but it does now so.... I find nothing wrong whatsoever with using it.

 

[Rydian]

From reading the articles, 10-bit color is NOT better compression. 10-bit color allows lossier compression without people complaining because it doesn't look as bad as 8-bit at lower bitrates.

 

[Ziggy Zigzagoon]

And this. Take notice in the file size for this one lol.

Spoiler

I have to echo SifJar-san's comment. I can not see a difference between the two.

 

[alphamule]

I like how u edited your post to a link which i edited and posted before you. Keep in mind that what i watch is usually anime 90% of the time. Its very visible in the skies etc. And rather than theory. is a fact.

LOL Double-ninja'd? I found those links in Google at the same time, heh.

I'll just take this, and leave it here:

VLC is the most compatible with these files.

>VLC
I ran a video file through VLC the other day, gotta love this program man, shits amazing.

Tell me about it.

I'll stick to MPC-HC thanks.

*leaves thread*

LOL@Codec fail
Yeah, that's the big issue with integrated codecs. They don't always keep very uptodate with official codecs. This is especially true for proprietary formats like FLV and QT. I think it's kind of unavoidable to have several media players and assign them to specific file types. :/ TL;DR version of this thread: Just install multiple players and default to mplayer2. More players=Good

 

[DarkStriker]

And this. Take notice in the file size for this one lol.

Spoiler

I have to echo SifJar-san's comment. I can not see a difference between the two.

I guess you didnt bother to read what that post was about at all did you?

 

[ZAFDeltaForce]

I have installed the K-Lite codec pack and VLC media player.

Been able to play everything I threw at it so far

 

[prowler]

I have installed the K-Lite codec pack and VLC media player.

Been able to play everything I threw at it so far

VLC uses it's own codecs no matter what other codecs you have installed.
you'll need to use mpc-hc or some other player for the codecs.

 

[B-Blue]

XBMC

 

[alphamule]

I have installed the K-Lite codec pack and VLC media player.

Been able to play everything I threw at it so far

VLC uses it's own codecs no matter what other codecs you have installed.
you'll need to use mpc-hc or some other player for the codecs.

Actually, you can adjust it to (not) use hardware acceleration and (OS-level) installed codecs. See "Inputs & Codecs Settings" in preferences. If you enable "all settings", then you can specify the options for specific codecs. I wonder if there's players that silently fall back to internal implementations of codecs when the OS doesn't have them installed, but uses them by default if they exist. Has anyone found this out?

Egads, look at this version history for VLC. I must have been thinking of a really old version. The earliest they still offer is 0.1.99, heh. Yeah, that's a bit confusing where 1.1.0 came out after 0.1.99. Wow, at least they admit that those were beta versions. Anything starting with a 0 is VERY premature. (Or I just remembered it wrong after this time - it was about 5 years ago)

 

[DarkStriker]

Uhm. I found it BEFORE you. Look at the timers.

 

[ZAFDeltaForce]

I have installed the K-Lite codec pack and VLC media player.

Been able to play everything I threw at it so far

VLC uses it's own codecs no matter what other codecs you have installed.
you'll need to use mpc-hc or some other player for the codecs.

Oh no, actually the K-lite codec pack I installed is for WMP, which I use primarily.

For the random video file that WMP fails to play, I use VLC. Sorry, should have clarified that originally.

But thanks for the tip

 

[Ziggy Zigzagoon]

And this. Take notice in the file size for this one lol.

Spoiler

I have to echo SifJar-san's comment. I can not see a difference between the two.

I guess you didnt bother to read what that post was about at all did you?

I did read. The only differing opinion I had just happened to be the picture quality. I did notice the different sizes.