The COVID-19 vaccine in retrospect

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Nice to hear stories from real people for once.

I got the vaccines but I stopped and didn't get my last boosters because the vaccines did jack shit and I kept catching covid repeatedly anyways. The tests said I was negative but they were pretty inaccurate depending on how long you were infected for. Had a sore arm for a couple days after both injections and my mother had the same.

Nothing else to report.
 
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Nice to hear stories from real people for once.

I got the vaccines but I stopped and didn't get my last boosters because the vaccines did jack shit and I kept catching covid repeatedly anyways. The tests said I was negative but they were pretty inaccurate depending on how long you were infected for. Had a sore arm for a couple days after both injections and my mother had the same.

Nothing else to report.
Easy explanation:

- Vaccines are the same virus given in a weakened state where most antibody systems can kill it.
- The body learns how to kill it in the process.
- If the person gets infected again in the future, the body can more easily fight against that virus.

It is NOT an impenetrable shield that blocks everything. It teaches your body how to fight specific viruses.
 
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Easy explanation:

- Vaccines are the same virus given in a weakened state where most antibody systems can kill it.
- The body learns how to kill it in the process.
- If the person gets infected again in the future, the body can more easily fight against that virus.

It is NOT an impenetrable shield that blocks everything. It teaches your body how to fight specific viruses.
Well, duh. They teach everyone that.

Letting nature run its course if you get sick is free, preventing spread in the first place was more effective (particularly at protecting other people) and at the time there were concerns the vaccine had been rushed out so I wasn't eagar to take more than necessary.
 
The vaccines have never been guaranteed to prevent one from catching a flu, covid etc.

It doesn't however, significantly decrease the lethality of the virus if you happen to catch it despite being vaccinated. Happened to me in 2023. Covid only lasted a couple days. I did have lingering symptoms where I needed medication a couple weeks later but that's because I have asthma.

there were concerns the vaccine had been rushed out
These were misguided concerns. Vaccines have been around for decades, this was nothing new. Outside of a few statistical outliers (which is expected with any kind of treatment) we have no data to suggest that any of the covid vaccines have caused any kind of permanent harm to recipients, and those here who have tried to claim otherwise have been laughed off the form after their claims were easily debunked.
 
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Well, duh. They teach everyone that.
But not everyone listens, as demonstrated in this thread by certain individuals.

I don't really want to get too involved here, but I know a bunch of friends and adults that didn't get COVID and didn't have the jab. A person I know had the vaccine and had bad side affects for a couple years, nausea, migraines, etc
While certainly possible that it can produce side effects, it's also possible that their own separate actions are what causes them and they are using the vaccine as a scapegoat.
 
Letting nature run its course if you get sick is free
Incidentally, this was the strategy of our prime minister Boris Johnson. If we just let the disease spread, we'll get it over and done with as fast as possible and everyone can get back to work, protecting the economy.

In other news, our covid inquiry recently published findings that thousands of deaths could have been avoided if we had, you know, tried from the start instead of wasting two months and then panicking, but I guess this was all unavoidable. If this genius couldn't see the flaws with this approach, it could only ever have been hindsight.

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Oh, and it didn't help the economy, either. Letting sickness spread out of control somehow weakened our productivity. It's only free if you ignore the consequences.
 
If you're a in risk group. specially elderly, take it.
If not, evaluate your options, chances of getting it, and potential side effects.

The vaccine itself might be harmful, as the spike protein by itself seems to have negative effects on the human body, and the by-far worst variant of the virus (Delta, which nearly killed me) has long since been gone.

IMHO, it's not worth it now for most people, and even for the risk groups, it should have been taken by early/mid 2021 at most , but never the experimental mRNA ones - I still don't trust those just yet, but we'll get there.
 
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Flu and Covid "vaccines" aren't even vaccines TBH, you don't need them it's just a conspiracy made from BIG PHARMA to get more money.
The flu shot contains shredded viruses. These shredded viruses can't infect you but provoke an immune response. It's far from perfect but it makes you less likely to get infected with flu strains currently circulating and if you do get infected then you recover more quickly. This means less time laying in bed exhausted when you could be doing something more productive or enjoying yourself.

The Covid vaccines contain mRNA which causes your body to produce the virus' spike protein then antibodies against it. Once again the vaccine is far from perfect but a vaccine which reduces your chance of getting infected and shortens the duration of your illness still works.
 
It's rather sad that folks don't trust vaccines because it doesn't 100% cure the problem. It was never meant to. It's to help your body fight it off by learning to do it without the danger of the virus being active.

And then there's notions of not needing any more shots for things like flu, and the companies are just trying to make money with "fake vaccines". It's like the idea "survival of the fittest" is thrown out the window. That it only applies to the macroscopic world and not the microscopic world where bacteria and viruses reside. Viruses can and do evolve and mutate, making the vaccine before not as effective because how the body attacks it isn't as effective. So a new vaccine based on the newer virus is formed.
 
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And you can avoid getting COVID even without the vaccine. Have a healthy life style and you'll be fine. Let's see the long term affects of the vaccine hmm.
I'd sooner believe your diet caused that. I don't recall nausea ever being a side effect.

Alternatively, you're just lying.
Side affects are different for everyone. We are not all the same
 
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And you can avoid getting COVID even without the vaccine. Have a healthy life style and you'll be fine. Let's see the long term affects of the vaccine hmm.
The only true way to avoid getting COVID is isolation, but that ain't happening in this world when you have to go outside and interact with people on a daily basis, no matter how healthy a lifestyle you have. Fact is, if your body isn't being prepared for a problem, it'll easily submit when it happens.

And no amount of praying to God is going to help if you choose to turn off that slab of meat in your head that he gave you, if you believe in that sort of stuff.
 
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And you can avoid getting COVID even without the vaccine. Have a healthy life style and you'll be fine.
That is not how viruses work. They don't care how healthy you are. that's not even close to how the immune response functions...

Since the education system has failed several people, I'll go over the basics.

1. When the virus enters your body, it takes a while for the body to notice anything in particular is wrong, as it goes undetected on the immune system. This is often, about a week or two.

2. When the body does finally notice, there is a substantial viral build up by that point, and the body starts it's first phase, which is trying to slow the virus down, with all weapons available it has at that time. This is usually when you start having a fever or having symptoms and feeling sick. Part of it is a byproduct of your body fighting, and it also can create inflammation, since it can and often involve killing healthy cells, and cells that are stressed within the area, and macrophages, which try to engulf the viruses and slow it down.

3. After that, your body is trying to figure out the right combination on how to actually get rid of the virus, since at this point, your body isn't actually killing it fast enough to stop replication, it only has the tools to slow it. Once it does figure out the right set of tools, antibodies are created, and once that happens, that's when symptoms often start coming down rapidly. Virus rapidly dwindles, and you no longer feel sick.


The entire point of vaccines, is instead of having the whole casualties and possible complications, we nip it at the bud at step 1.

Body is on full alert, so it already knows how to start fighting.
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And this is why COVID mutating because people weren't wearing masks or taking shit seriously was a problem.

By allowing it to infect people, it still could mutate. The vaccine helped reduced how much of viral payload one could transmit to another if either party was vaccinated.

And eventually mutate far enough, that the original weapons used/solution, no longer works. And the body has to restart the whole process all over again. Even if it detected a variant faster from a older outdated vaccine, it still didn't have the weapons or tools ready to kill it, since now it's a much different thing.


If as many people were vaccinated as possible, or lock downs taken actual seriously. The amount of new people the virus could spread to would be so thin it would become eradicated, instead of our current problem, which is now that it's endemic. It's less dangerous because that's how viruses work (the ones that kill, often get less lethal as they mutate, due to how if it kills you, then it doesn't have as much chance to spread as the one that doesn't.)
But it doesn't mean it's not a problem anymore, because it still is, less lethal does not mean, not lethal.
 
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That is not how viruses work. They don't care how healthy you are. that's not even close to how the immune response functions...

Since the education system has failed several people, I'll go over the basics.

1. When the virus enters your body, it takes a while for the body to notice anything in particular is wrong, as it goes undetected on the immune system. This is often, about a week or two.

2. When the body does finally notice, there is a substantial viral build up by that point, and the body starts it's first phase, which is trying to slow the virus down, with all weapons available it has at that time. This is usually when you start having a fever or having symptoms and feeling sick. Part of it is a byproduct of your body fighting, and it also can create inflammation, since it can and often involve killing healthy cells, and cells that are stressed within the area, and macrophages, which try to engulf the viruses and slow it down.

3. More or less during this time, your body is trying to figure out the right combination on how to actually get rid of the virus, since at this point, your body isn't actually killing it fast enough to stop replication, it only has the tools to slow it. Once it does figure out the right set of tools, antibodies are created, and once that happens, that's when symptoms often start coming down rapidly. Virus rapidly dwindles, and you no longer feel sick.


The entire point of vaccines, is instead of having the whole casualties and possible complications, we nip it at the bud at step 1.

Body is on full alert, so it already knows to start prototyping the solution. Since the body will carry antibodies of previous infections.

Loved your post but seriously,
Don't bother.

If they didn't understand it at school, they won't understand it in here.

Blame the fact that America has never put higher education as a priority. This is why they are in the mess they are in, at the moment. They go with their guts and feelings instead of proper research, with due dilligence and proper discernment. It's all about who shouts louder and who's more popular, instead of competence.

As their current Daddy President says, the government loves the pooly educated, because it benefits them. Tech giants as well, because they won't bear any of the responsibilities in the case shit goes wrong, since most if them don't know their consumers' rights.

I mean, for exemple, DOGE pretty much has their data and other nations/black markets may have gotten ahold of them, because of their lack of dilligence and their waryness of listening to experts in their field.

And the debt hasn't even reduced, it rose to record highs instead. That's what you get when you mix power with stupidity, ignorance and blatant lack of morals.
 
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Don't bother.

If they didn't understand it at school, they won't understand it in here.

Blame the fact that America has never put higher education as a priority. This is why they are in the mess they are in, at the moment. They go with their guts amd feelings instead of proper research, with due dilligence and discernment. It's all about who shouts louder and who's more popular

As their current Daddy President says, the government loves the pooly educated, because it benefits them. Tech giants as well, because they won't bear any of the responsibilities in the case shit goes wrong, since most if them don't know their consumers' rights.

I mean, for exemple, DOGE pretty much has their data and other nations/black markets may have gotten ahold of them, because of their lack of dilligence and their waryness of listening to experts in their field.

And the debt hasn't even reduced, it rose to record highs instead. That's what you get when you mix power with stupid and lack of morals
He's not an American, so I am hoping that it didn't fail this person as catastrophically as my country did.
 
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my brother used to say "ok, and?" a lot, kinda annoying honestly.
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I don't really want to get too involved here, but I know a bunch of friends and adults that didn't get COVID and didn't have the jab. A person I know had the vaccine and had bad side affects for a couple years, nausea, migraines, etc
I only threw up, didn't have any other symptoms. luckily :)
 
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