Hacking Hardware Picofly - a HWFLY switch modchip

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Whats the recommended size?
for the apu cap wires you'll want at least 0.2mm diameter wire, which means AWG30-AWG34 is suitable. for cmd/clk/rst/cpu/dat0 the easiest to deal with is 0.1mm diameter wire, meaning AWG38-AWG40. It is doable with larger wire, but the solder pads are very tiny and larger wire than necessary increases the risk of accidentally pulling and ripping pads off the board. 3v3/gnd can be awg30-awg36.
 
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for the apu cap wires you'll want at least 0.2mm diameter wire, which means AWG30-AWG34 is suitable. for cmd/clk/rst/cpu/dat0 the easiest to deal with is 0.1mm diameter wire, meaning AWG38-AWG40. It is doable with larger wire, but the solder pads are very tiny and larger wire than necessary increases the risk of accidentally pulling and ripping pads off the board. 3v3/gnd can be awg30-awg36.
Alright, thank you
 

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Hello, I will try soldering mosfets without flex cable for picofly mod after mosfets come. But I did not know why sometimes on schema there is one mosfet and on the others 2 mosfets. Should I use two IRFHS8342TRPBF or just one is sufficient? Whats the difference when using two mosfets? Also when using 2 mosfets I noticed two "G Mosfet" https://gbatemp.net/attachments/marikodual-mosfet-jpg.363515/ https://gbatemp.net/attachments/marikodual-mosfet-jpg.363515/ going to CPU pin of RP2040 - Connecting just one is sufficient? Or do I need to connect two of these points to the same pin of RP2040?
 

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Sorry can anyone help me :( I broke a pin at the CMD point, now the switch won't turn on. Is there anything I can do to save the situation?
 

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Hello, I will try soldering mosfets without flex cable for picofly mod after mosfets come. But I did not know why sometimes on schema there is one mosfet and on the others 2 mosfets. Should I use two IRFHS8342TRPBF or just one is sufficient? Whats the difference when using two mosfets? Also when using 2 mosfets I noticed two "G Mosfet" https://gbatemp.net/attachments/marikodual-mosfet-jpg.363515/ https://gbatemp.net/attachments/marikodual-mosfet-jpg.363515/ going to CPU pin of RP2040 - Connecting just one is sufficient? Or do I need to connect two of these points to the same pin of RP2040?

One is enough, just make sure to use thick enough wire from mosfet to cap, at least 0.2mm.
 
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thank you, but why most of the people uses 2 mosfets? Whats the benefit of doing so?

Some people have had problems with only using one and got it working when using two. I'm not certain if the number of mosfets has been the actual issue though - I think it's more likely that the first one just wasn't working properly. Anyway, you can always test with one and add another if the rp2040 gives you cyan light.
 
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Theoretically one mosfet is able to handle the current, people have been using two to make it easier to connect to both caps.
 

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Sorry can anyone help me :( I broke a pin at the CMD point, now the switch won't turn on. Is there anything I can do to save the situation?
congrats your switch is booting into RCM mode. /s (dont worry I've done the same)
The only way to get it to work is to reconnect the trace which goes off on the red line basically, 2-3 layers deep
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you can check the board scans here

but I would recommend a professional to repair it
 
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congrats your switch is booting into RCM mode. /s (dont worry I've done the same)
The only way to get it to work is to reconnect the trace which goes off on the red line basically, 2-3 layers deep
View attachment 365894

you can check the board scans here

but I would recommend a professional to repair it
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Thank you very much for help me ^-^! Can I solder the wire in the left pad to the left part of this instead?
 
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hello, I had an accident and that capacitor is no longer there, also the other capacitor where the mosfet is connected shows continuity on both sides, I suppose it is because this capacitor is no longer there, any advice?

Ícono de validado por la comunidad
 

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so i manage to solder mosfet to wire (its crazy hard)
basicly, i make their legs....
cuz i dont wanted the wire came off, im gonna use uv mask....

but...
how to use this uv mask ???
i never try use them ?
should i use brush or toothpick ?
how to dry them fast ? without uv light ? ( idont have uv light)
uvmaskmechanic.jpeg
 

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so i manage to solder mosfet to wire (its crazy hard)
basicly, i make their legs....
cuz i dont wanted the wire came off, im gonna use uv mask....

but...
how to use this uv mask ???
i never try use them ?
should i use brush or toothpick ?
how to dry them fast ? without uv light ? ( idont have uv light)
View attachment 365903
Use a toothpick as it is better to handle. You can get a UV light bulb for 50 cents to your nearest electonic store.
 

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am i bought the wrong mosfet ?
my mosfet sooo tiny ???
i cant even read the text hehehehhe lol

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ant-man help!!
I cant see anything wrong with those mosfets as far as the size is concerned. These are very tiny packages that should fit beside the APU die. Check these pics from my install. You will definately need a good microscope.
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For the mosfet only soldering iron. To be precise solder station, to target precisely the temperature. The difficult one is melting the tin onto the caps. Maybe the caps goes to heat sink or high temp tin. Its difficult to blend (melted) with our tin. Normally i use 300C, for this kind of work, i increse to 350C, yet still its not that good enough to melt it. Increase it more, i worry to ripped the pad.

I read on previous comment someone use 396C to solder the S pad on right bottom.
I use 380C with a T12 soldering station. High temps quickly melt the tin without burning components through low temps prologed contact...
 

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Yes, but the other cap shouldn't show continuity
yes, I looked at another board that I have and I saw that it does not give continuity, so I suppose that the other capacitor may be shorted, since it is very clean, and removing the other capacitor that shows continuity would be too much, I mean, leaving the processor without 2 capacitors, that's a lot, right?

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so i manage to solder mosfet to wire (its crazy hard)
basicly, i make their legs....
cuz i dont wanted the wire came off, im gonna use uv mask....

but...
how to use this uv mask ???
i never try use them ?
should i use brush or toothpick ?
如何快速干燥它们?没有紫外线?(没有紫外线)
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Use sunlight
 
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