Zombie thread, RAAAGH

[Thomas12345]

We could all go bitch to gary on maxconsole and demand some sort of response? not that it would really do anything...but lol im getting so desperate im willing to get gang raped for the n3ds exploit. as long as its Caucasian fellas with small wee wees.

if you want small wee wees u should go for asian

ok i'm just kidding, racist time is over lol

 

[Ralph1611]

This hype train is deader than a Texas salad bar.

 

[sparrowreal]

We could all go bitch to gary on maxconsole and demand some sort of response? not that it would really do anything...but lol im getting so desperate im willing to get gang raped for the n3ds exploit. as long as its Caucasian fellas with small wee wees.

I don't know man they are so used to screw people that I think they would give you one hell of a ride lol

 

[thorasgar]

And GW still hasn't told us anything about when/if they will release n3ds support. I get that they can't do emunand 9.5, that's fine. But the question from 1st post in this thread still remains... when is GW gonna release n3ds support (with whatever features GW can include)? Who knows, maybe februrary, maybe summer, maybe even in 2016.

I have already told the world when the release is expected for over a week now. August 14th.

It is both Soon™ and A While™ AND exactly 9 months after the Emuaculate Conception of N3DS support.

 

[shinyquagsire23]

Looks like 9.5 support might not even be as difficult as it was supposed to be, at least according to yellows8. They must have messed up somewhere in there since it's able to be decrypted now with just any old arm9 hack (ie < 9.2). I'm curious to see how this will play out for Gateway and others.

 

[codychaosx]

Looks like 9.5 support might not even be as difficult as it was supposed to be, at least according to yellows8. They must have messed up somewhere in there since it's able to be decrypted now with just any old arm9 hack (ie < 9.2). I'm curious to see how this will play out for Gateway and others.

so it may be in ppls best interest to upgrade to 9.5 if theyre currently on 9.3 or 9.4?

 

[shinyquagsire23]

so it may be in ppls best interest to upgrade to 9.5 if theyre currently on 9.3 or 9.4?

Definitely not, if you're on 9.3 or 9.4 you're already screwed for any sort of hax or whatnot (except GSP/memory stuffs and regionthree), but 9.5 patched a vulnerability which will pretty much make it near impossible for Gateway to work again past 9.5, even if they found another kernel exploit or two. The thing is though, their delays for 9.5 might not be as long as we thought they would be.

 

[VinsCool]

Looks like 9.5 support might not even be as difficult as it was supposed to be, at least according to yellows8. They must have messed up somewhere in there since it's able to be decrypted now with just any old arm9 hack (ie < 9.2). I'm curious to see how this will play out for Gateway and others.

So you mean it actually has a potential flaw regression in 9.5?

 

[thorasgar]

Looks like 9.5 support might not even be as difficult as it was supposed to be, at least according to yellows8. They must have messed up somewhere in there since it's able to be decrypted now with just any old arm9 hack (ie < 9.2). I'm curious to see how this will play out for Gateway and others.

If you say so. I didn't get that impression from reading that page, but I trust you have a clear understanding of it.

 

[shinyquagsire23]

So you mean it actually has a potential flaw regression in 9.5?

More or less a flaw in how they did their encryption methinks. Basically the kernel can be decrypted with any old arm9 hack on a New 3DS, which means that finding the keys might not be as long/painful as it was for the 7.x keys.

EDIT: Hate pulling IRC logs (it's just kinda weird), but this is basically the reasoning for the edit:

[20:44] <@yellows8> http://3dbrew.org/w/index.php?title=9.5.0-22&curid=1823&diff=11562&oldid=11560 ;-)
[20:45] < Normmatt> so can decrypt it with any arm9 hax on n3ds?
...
[20:47] <@yellows8> correct

 

[Timburpton]

More or less a flaw in how they did their encryption methinks. Basically the kernel can be decrypted with any old arm9 hack on a New 3DS, which means that finding the keys might not be as long/painful as it was for the 7.x keys.

EDIT: Hate pulling IRC logs (it's just kinda weird), but this is basically the reasoning for the edit:

[20:44] <@yellows8> http://3dbrew.org/w/index.php?title=9.5.0-22&curid=1823&diff=11562&oldid=11560 ;-)
[20:45] < Normmatt> so can decrypt it with any arm9 hax on n3ds?
...
[20:47] <@yellows8> correct

so for noob shit people like me, this means that the emunand 9.5 support for n3ds is DEFINITELY doable and that GW is just exaggerating the difficulty to explain delays?

 

[thorasgar]

so for noob shit people like me, this means that the emunand 9.5 support for n3ds is DEFINITELY doable and that GW is just exaggerating the difficulty to explain delays?

Gateway want "noob shit people like" you get different solution that why they just exaggerating difficulty.

 

[Xzi]

so for noob shit people like me, this means that the emunand 9.5 support for n3ds is DEFINITELY doable and that GW is just exaggerating the difficulty to explain delays?

When did they exaggerate it? And I quote: "This is not a definitive barrier, but we feel it necessary to inform our users that while we are still working on releasing our New 3ds support, we will not be able to provide support yet for 9.5 emunand or higher for New 3DS on release."

They'll begin work on >9.4 emuNAND once N3DS support has been released. But while they're working on that, the focus is not on newer firmware. It's on 8.1 - 9.2 where the N3DS can be exploited.

 

[shinyquagsire23]

so for noob shit people like me, this means that the emunand 9.5 support for n3ds is DEFINITELY doable and that GW is just exaggerating the difficulty to explain delays?

No, it's more like Nintendo added encryption + a new key for ARM9 kernel, and yellows8 happened to find a way to decrypt this without hacking the kernel from 9.5 (or from the bootrom). Gateway was aware that this change occurred, but yellows8 found a way around it first which Gateway may or may not end up finding. So not as much of an exaggeration, but two different groups working at different paces (and on different things).

 

[VinsCool]

No, it's more like Nintendo added encryption + a new key for ARM9 kernel, and yellows8 happened to find a way to decrypt this without hacking the kernel from 9.5 (or from the bootrom). Gateway was aware that this change occurred, but yellows8 found a way around it first which Gateway may or may not end up finding. So not as much of an exaggeration, but two different groups working at different paces (and on different things).

unless gateway team reads the 3dbrew documentation, they should be able to workaround, right?

 

[Vickyle]

You so easily forget that Sky3DS purposely set a game limit just to make you buy more of their cards, then they charge you to buy the new model with no game limit. Also, to what "communication" do you refer on Sky3DS's part? They've never had to update anything important except to tell you to buy the new card to get rid of game limits.

Both are bad, but the only one working right now is sky3ds. Anyone can see that.

 

[Kioku]

Looks like 9.5 support might not even be as difficult as it was supposed to be, at least according to yellows8. They must have messed up somewhere in there since it's able to be decrypted now with just any old arm9 hack (ie < 9.2). I'm curious to see how this will play out for Gateway and others.

So, what you're saying is that Gateway gave us an excuse?

 

[bennyhan1985]

Both are bad, but the only one working right now is sky3ds. Anyone can see that.

yeah, exactly.

 

[Kugz]

No, it's more like Nintendo added encryption + a new key for ARM9 kernel, and yellows8 happened to find a way to decrypt this without hacking the kernel from 9.5 (or from the bootrom). Gateway was aware that this change occurred, but yellows8 found a way around it first which Gateway may or may not end up finding. So not as much of an exaggeration, but two different groups working at different paces (and on different things).

yellows8 should sell his method to Gateway so he can make a bit of cash and support the "Homebrew" community too

 

[ucta]

Okey they are stuck with 9.5...but what about 8.1-9.2? Why they are not mentioning it nor releasing. We can just wait months with no probs waiting on 9.2 and using gateway+fw spoofing.