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No worst case is they have everything done but had to scrap the mii maker entry point because games that use mii's won't run at all and we have to wait till they find a whole new entry point

I think they would have realized that from the beginning, and therefore would not have put out the video if that was the case.
 

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Estimating from my wait with gatewait, the timing of the update release should be over the weekend somehow....


how can this be when the announcement has not been made yet ?? i say announcement in feb & update any time between early march to late may.

there is also the possibility that they have reached a dead end aka the n3ds exploit is not good for public release.
 
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I disagree. Remember the hype train put massive massive pressure on gw. Emails were flying left right and center. Ppl were hyped for the update and putting more and more pressure due to that. Just because we were hyped doesn't mean we didn't care when they released. We just had a fun way to chill and wait and be updated on the news.
There's no pressure at all. You know why? Because the hype train crowd has the memory of goldfish. They get hyped, disappointed, hyped, disappointed, on repeat. Gateway know that there is no lasting consequence for repeatedly baiting and disappointing the community because the community treats disappointment and hype as a game.

The hype on this thread has been dead for a long time and people have stopped sending emails even. People are just exhausted at this point, I think.
Thank Christ. People getting disappointed and exhausted (with no incoming hype train) is something that Gateway (or any company) will likely take seriously.

Also, releasing 'to stop the whining' isn't possible if you don't have a product. It also sounds like something they would say just as a 'finally it's done'. I seriously doubt the pressure we put in them did anything significant tbh.
Uh, the "release" that they were referring to was the Ultra update. The Ultra update was the product.

Also, Early release for o3ds made sense as that would be the easier of the two to prepare. Only thing pressure will do is lead to a more rushed release(not saying this is bad, or good).
Or motivate them to work harder, or communicate with the community better (to alleviate concerns), or release updates in smaller, yet stable increments (as they are doing).

Pressure doesn't necessarily mean "rushed releases". Try not to think in black and white so much.

If they don't have it, they don't have it, simple as that.
I never said they had it despite them not having it. Or that the didn't have it, when they had it. Them not having it when they don't have it is obvious. Why even post this? I don't even.
 

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I think they would have realized that from the beginning, and therefore would not have put out the video if that was the case.
I hope that is the case but who knows , maybe they thought they could patch it to fix the mii game compatibility but ran into problems and realized they can't use it
 

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I think they would have realized that from the beginning, and therefore would not have put out the video if that was the case.


i think, as soon as they realized that they had something working on the n3ds, they took a camera, made the video and uploaded it without any QA..

as sonyusa said, they won´t use that entrypoint and it´s surely chilling in their trash can.. i bet they are now looking for another webkit exploit :(
 

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I realized these aren't just programmers that we are dealing with, they are engineers. Like, lets just give them space, because they know what they are doing.


yea putting together all those cards should have priority :D i hope they have other people for that... :P
 

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i think, as soon as they realized that they had something working on the n3ds, they took a camera, made the video and uploaded it without any QA..

as sonyusa said, they won´t use that entrypoint and it´s surely chilling in their trash can.. i bet they are now looking for another webkit exploit :(

I am not the Gateway team, but I know that if it were me, and I was dealing with a product I released, I would not release any info about a update I might be implementing, until I was 147% sure I could do it, without issue.
 
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I am not the Gateway team, but I know that if it were me, and I was dealing with a product I released, I would not release any info about a update I might be implementing, until I was 147% sure I could do it, without issue.


yea that you should expect from a PROFESSIONAL reputable company (or whatever), but it was a smart (shady) buisness move.. don´t know how many people got a gateway after that video ^^ but at this point it should be confirmed more or less that they scraped that idea

in any case something went terribly wrong with that
 

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i think, as soon as they realized that they had something working on the n3ds, they took a camera, made the video and uploaded it without any QA..

as sonyusa said, they won´t use that entrypoint and it´s surely chilling in their trash can.. i bet they are now looking for another webkit exploit :(
That is just her speculation but she is really pissing me off with her evasiveness
I must have asked at least 5 times in this thread what she meant by "an issue with games that use mii's"
If it meant just no using mii's in game or if meant that those games won't even run at all
And keep getting ignored ,she has the fucking beta ,there is no reason she can't test mariokart or another title and report back here if it works or not
its not like it takes that long ,much shorter amount of time than it does to add to all the shit posting in this thread I'm sure
 
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yea that you should expect from a PROFESSIONAL reputable company (or whatever), but it was a smart (shady) buisness move.. don´t know how many people got a gateway after that video ^^ but at this point it should be confirmed more or less that they scraped that idea
WTF are you smoking? Put the pipe down, and look at the stupidity you are spewing. You are basicly saying "Gateway worked hard, and got their card to work on N3DS. They then made a video of their success, and posted it, to sell some cards. Then scrapped it. Screw the users!" Yeah... that is exactly how stupid you sound.
 
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That is just her speculation but she is really pissing me off with her evasiveness
I must have asked at least 5 times in this thread what she meant by "an issue with games that use mii's"
If it meant just no using mii's in game or if meant that those games won't even run at all
And keep getting ignored ,she has the fucking beta ,there is no reason she can't test mariokart or another title and report back here if it works or not
its not like it takes that long ,much shorter amount of time than it does to add to all the shit posting in this thread I'm sure
...or maybe she actually have nothing ;)
 

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i´m smoking a lot so no issues there :D but i don´t know if you know the posts of sonyusa then you would know what i mean.. if not read them yourself

but also like weatmod said, the source can be questionable.. i think she knows more than she says, but i can also be wrong with that

regarding that we´ve seen and heared nothing since then from gw, she is surely not that wrong (don´t get me wrong, i´m pissed of about her too :P)
 

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...or maybe she actually have nothing ;)
Then why don't she just make up some shit then?
Seems like she is being deliberately evasive and maybe has a bigger stake in this than she lets on with "no direct connection to GW" story
Or maybe they told the beta testers not to report anything to anyone but them
I don't know but it seems suspicious to keep evading a simple obvious question
 

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i´m smoking a lot so no issues there :D but i don´t know if you know the posts of sonyusa then you would know what i mean.. if not read them yourself

but also like weatmod said, the source can be questionable.. i think she knows more than she says, but i can also be wrong with that

regarding that we´ve seen and heared nothing since then from gw, she is surely not that wrong (don´t get me wrong, i´m pissed of about her too :P)

Sorry if I came off a little assholei-sh. All you can reliably go off of is what is officially from Gateway. The N3DS was released Oct. 11th in Japan. The video of Gateway working was released Nov. 30th. So, it's not like they threw this together in an hour, posted it on the net, and called it a day. You can be sure that there was a lot of time for them to get it working, and test it, A LOT, before they released the news to the community.

And on the whole, people seem to be saying Gateway is shady... but look at their track record. They have always come through on what they say they can do. Some times it takes a lot longer than a lot of people would like, but they have always come through on what they say they can do.
 
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