Gaming YouTube is dying plain and simple
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I notice more and more content creators include sponsored messages and use Patreon and Subscribe Star. So maybe Google they should abandon the current ad system and implement a subscription service for uploaders where free users have a limited number of monthly SD uploads and 1 monthly HD upload, low tier subscribers get their upload limit increased, mid tier subscribers get unlimited HD uploads and access to a built in Pateron-like service, plus tools which make it easier to acquire sponsors and then the premium subscription adds 4K uploading and prioritizes your exposure to sponsors.
Google would probably make more money that way and it would make the alternative revenue options people are already using more convenient.
Google would probably make more money that way and it would make the alternative revenue options people are already using more convenient.
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Being a small creator on that platform is already a miserable existence, must you really suggest they should make it even worse for them?
I enjoy youtube now more than I ever have but I can see the cracks. YT is crippling its creators with ever step it takes. Its only a matter of time before a new player steps into the space and takes over.
The main 3 issues with there being a contender on the level of YouTube is...
- Users - Good luck convincing all the normies to move to some other platform when all their creators are already on YouTube.
- Funds - Video processing, storing and streaming is probably the most resource intensive thing you can do, that needs clusters of servers and that costs lots of moneys.
- Storage - Going back to 2, each upload gets processed into multiple variants, someone uploads a 1080p video that gets converted into 720, 480, etc. Now you have to store all of those, but now you also get hours worth of content every second... Oh but you also want 4k support too so...
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And now those idiot advertisers just put the final nail in the coffin in the name of the "brand association" myth they keep perpetuating. They are demonetizing videos based on comments now. How long before someone codes a bot that mass comments racial slurs on the top videos?
I have no idea how accurate that is but there was a claim from a random internet person I picked up on a random website that says that if there exists a service that could compete with youtube it’s pornhub. They suggested that pornhub could start a non-porn video site something like vidhub, youhub or whatever. I can’t say anthing about that claim cuz I don’t watch pornhub ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Ad revenue might be down, but people are finding other ways to make money such as Patreon, and that seems to be working out well for them. I don't think YouTube is going anywhere any time soon. It's simply too big so it's hard to make other sites attractive for users.
Looking back on this right now. looks like my younger self predicted the future. With the New TOS and COPPA, we really are screwed here. I mean I have since then gotten into youtube and started making videos now. We are just two days out from the New TOS and its really sad guys it really is.
I do understand where you are coming from in this. its just all gotten so bad.
By taking up the mantle of curating and recommending content to its viewers YouTube morphed from "a place where you upload your videos and people watch them, or they don't" to a pseudo cable network, minus the cable.
Implementing any recommendation algorithm at all or any encouragenent/discouragement policy de facto means that YouTube accepts the responsibility for what shows up on everyone's feed as they've implemented mechanisms that curate the process. Treating it as "just a video host" is a mistake which enables the platform to wash their hands when it comes to any wrongdoing, most of which they are obviously responsible for. Any algorithm can be tricked or exploited and all YouTube scandals like the Elsa/Spiderman creepy video plague or the rampant demonitisation are the result of meddling with what viewers see and what content creators are allowed to upload.
YouTube doesn't need to tell me which videos are trending and which aren't, all I need to know is which videos get lots of views and have a good Like/Dislike ratio - their opinion regarding suitability of the content doesn't enter the equation. Some of my favourite YouTube clips of all time are ones that have been demonetised for arbitrary reasons, delisted or outright removed and re-uploaded by the swarm, and let me tell you, there is no amount of money or technology that can defeat the swarm.
There were two paths the platform could've taken - leaving the responsibility for uploaded content where it belongs, with the content creator who uploaded it, and not getting involved at all *or* accepting the fact that they've become a publisher, along with the burden of legal liability that comes with such a status. The first option aligned with the well-being of creators, the latter aligns with interest groups, and it seems that YouTube has chosen its path already. Since YouTube feels that it has the power to strip content creators of their income based on an arbitrary set of arbitrarily enforced rules, their protected status should and must be removed - either the platform is an open public forum where anyone can upload their content and is personally responsible for it or or isn't - there's no spectrum here.
With some luck a competitor to the service will eventually rise to the task and allow users to ingest the content they actually like rather than getting thrust into filter bubbles by a flawed algorithm.
Implementing any recommendation algorithm at all or any encouragenent/discouragement policy de facto means that YouTube accepts the responsibility for what shows up on everyone's feed as they've implemented mechanisms that curate the process. Treating it as "just a video host" is a mistake which enables the platform to wash their hands when it comes to any wrongdoing, most of which they are obviously responsible for. Any algorithm can be tricked or exploited and all YouTube scandals like the Elsa/Spiderman creepy video plague or the rampant demonitisation are the result of meddling with what viewers see and what content creators are allowed to upload.
YouTube doesn't need to tell me which videos are trending and which aren't, all I need to know is which videos get lots of views and have a good Like/Dislike ratio - their opinion regarding suitability of the content doesn't enter the equation. Some of my favourite YouTube clips of all time are ones that have been demonetised for arbitrary reasons, delisted or outright removed and re-uploaded by the swarm, and let me tell you, there is no amount of money or technology that can defeat the swarm.
There were two paths the platform could've taken - leaving the responsibility for uploaded content where it belongs, with the content creator who uploaded it, and not getting involved at all *or* accepting the fact that they've become a publisher, along with the burden of legal liability that comes with such a status. The first option aligned with the well-being of creators, the latter aligns with interest groups, and it seems that YouTube has chosen its path already. Since YouTube feels that it has the power to strip content creators of their income based on an arbitrary set of arbitrarily enforced rules, their protected status should and must be removed - either the platform is an open public forum where anyone can upload their content and is personally responsible for it or or isn't - there's no spectrum here.
With some luck a competitor to the service will eventually rise to the task and allow users to ingest the content they actually like rather than getting thrust into filter bubbles by a flawed algorithm.
Google is never going to take down Youtube. Although it has never turned a profit, like ever, remember that Google is in the business of selling information. With the amount of video content that they get they must be making $$ in ways other than ads. If you think about it, how does google profit from Gmail? I never see ads when I'm checking my e-mail.
Youtube has been dying like twice a year for like a decade acording to random chumps on the internet.
Hi again. If Youtube is not profitable then how come some Youtubers make much much money (like 5000$ per 1 Million view...) ? How come there are so many many people turning into Youtube as a full time job to make a living?
The worst part is that they can't even recommend related videos correctly. A few years ago the "recommended" tab on the page of a video about, say, Call of Duty, would recommend you other videos about Call of Duty or maybe other FPS games. Now it's all based on your watch history, not what you're watching right now, which really, really sucks when you want to keep watching videos about a similar theme. At least that's my experience with it.
You can also watch tens of videos about the same theme in a week and never get a recommendation related to that theme, but watch a single video in a random theme and all you'll get for a few days are recommendations related to that.
Just let this thread die. It was f**** ridiculous to begin with, and never had a chance.
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