Yet another Windows 8 / Metro argument

[The Milkman]

I like W8.
Its faster than 7 but most of my games doesn't work on it, that's why i changed back to 7.

But, Win 8 just builds upon Win 7... how could your games not work? Which are they?

 

[GamerzHell9137]

But, Win 8 just builds upon Win 7... how could your games not work? Which are they?

Digimon Masters and Aion.
I got BSOD when loading Digimon and couldn't run Aion on x64 bit

 

[Rydian]

A BSOD is not a usermode-software issue, it's some driver or system-level issue. Likely something in the OS needed to be removed/fixed/updated.

Unless this is a game that uses system-level DRM, like starforce and junk. That stuff can cause all sorts of problems.

 

[Arm73]

I like W8.
Its faster than 7 but most of my games doesn't work on it, that's why i changed back to 7.

Ever heard of dual boot ?
That's what I'm basically doing with every new Windows release, I create a second partition and put the new OS there and keep the old one 'just in case '.
But I tell you, once I started to install new games on Windows 8 over the months, I have little to no reason to go back to 7, as opposed to before when I used mostly 7 and occasionally checked out 8.
Everything just works.
But I guess it's good to keep the old one in case something goes wrong.

 

[FireGrey]

I really don't see the negative attitude towards windows 8.
The Metro Interface is simply a better, full screen start menu and the Metro 'apps' are just windows ran in full screen that are easier to manage than other full screen programs.
There is nothing pushing into your face to be running all your programs like Chrome in Metro so I don't see why the fact that there are convenient full screen apps available to you would make the OS suck.

 

[FireGrey]

I like W8.
Its faster than 7 but most of my games doesn't work on it, that's why i changed back to 7.

I thought that compatibility was almost exactly the same as previous operating systems other than driver support.
Definitely applies to steam games.

 

[The Milkman]

I thought that compatibility was almost exactly the same as previous operating systems other than driver support.
Definitely applies to steam games.

Thats what im wondering too, I personally run a few rougelikes that werent even designed for Windows (I recompiled 2 of them) and they all run even better then Win 7.

Maybe he took a fresh install and forgot to install the new drivers?

 

[Skelletonike]

What? surely you joke?

What do you then do if say, you need to view two entirely different types of document side-by-side? Like say, a video and a notepad for example? Would you seriously expect the video player to have notepad functionality, or the notepad to have video playing functionality? No.

Actually, you can do that on Windows 8, even when using the metro... All you have to do is draw windows and you can be reading a pdf while watching a movie for example.

 

[GamerzHell9137]

Ever heard of dual boot ?
That's what I'm basically doing with every new Windows release, I create a second partition and put the new OS there and keep the old one 'just in case '.
But I tell you, once I started to install new games on Windows 8 over the months, I have little to no reason to go back to 7, as opposed to before when I used mostly 7 and occasionally checked out 8.
Everything just works.
But I guess it's good to keep the old one in case something goes wrong.

No i didn't cause my HDD is 80 GB...
Cba to install it again nor i know if DMO works now or not.
And W8 is 20 GB+ , first i need to get a bigger HDD.

 

[Devin]

I liked windows 8 for the most part. Just the software compatibility and the lack of drivers for my devices were my turn offs. Skype worked for a bit then failed. (That windows 8 Skype blows.) Some of my drivers just didn't work. As mentioned before some games failed to. Load.

But it looked nice and worked for the most part.

 

[dilav]

Skype worked for a bit then failed. (That windows 8 Skype blows.)

Skype for 'Windows Desktop' still exists. Even though skype webpage directs you to Skype for 'Windows 8' app
http://www.skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-computer/

 

[EMP Knightmare]

I'm not that big a fan of Windows 8, I gave it a try, but it wasn't my thing.
Then again I am rather bias when it comes down Windows and never really cared for anything past XP.

Marry me

 

[Devin]

Skype for 'Windows Desktop' still exists. Even though skype webpage directs you to Skype for 'Windows 8' app
http://www.skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-computer/

Yeah that's the one that failed, just wanted to add on that I tried the Windows 8 Skype app and it was terrible.

 

[Haloman800]

Getting rid of the Start Menu was one of the dumbest moves Microsoft has ever done. They execs and Windows programmers actually got in a fight over adding it back in Windows 8.1 (Which is an update coming). You can see the demand for it by all the Start menu replacements (Start8, StartIsBack, ClassicShell, etc).

Windows 8 might be good for a tablet interface, but it is horrible for a desktop/laptop setup.. It convolutes everything and makes simple tasks much harder, half the users couldn't even figure out how to turn it off without looking it up online.

Windows 8 is a failure, and that won't change even if they add back the Start menu. You can't change first impressions, which is why Vista is regarded as a failure (Even though service pack 1 fixed most of the problems).

 

[spinal_cord]

You can run two apps side by side and change easily switch these apps with a click and flick.

How about you read my complaint before giving the wrong answer. I have been using Windows from version 3.x, one of the most useful things, it to have MANY windows and applications open and visible, NOT ONLY TWO.

[quote="Haloman800, post: 4620626, member: 235972"Windows 8 might be good for a tablet interface, but it is horrible for a desktop/laptop setup.. It convolutes everything and makes simple tasks much harder...[/quote]

Agreed.

 

[Engert]

uuuuuh, i'm saving this for tomorrow.
Short version (TLDR) : Windows 8 sucks monkey balls because it has no start menu, and they're trying to copy Apple and all of you who think it's cool are just gay.

http://www.zdnet.com/microsofts-win...-the-start-button-boot-to-desktop-7000014075/

 

[Deleted-236924]

I'm just gonna leave this here.

 

[nl255]

Once again I say it, sit down, and actually take time to learn how the operating system works before you haul off saying it doesnt work. Dont try it for a week, dont try it for two weeks, sit down and dedicate yourself to using it for a month and actually learn shit about using it. Every single thing you've complained about is already solved in the OS, if you dont want to learn how to ride a bike, dont go and return it to the store saying its broken.

I have and it is a royal pain in the ass. Typing using an on screen keyboard for any length of time is quite painful and having to buy a few more monitors to work around the whole "only full screen apps" thing is out of my budget. Not to mention having to set up a POP3 to IMAP proxy because the Mail software only supports IMAP or Exchange.

 

[nl255]

Im by no means saying the Metro was a GOOD choice, im saying that any complaints about the Metro are invaild because everything can be done from the desktop. Think of the Metro for what its always been, a full screen start menu.

What part of you aren't supposed to use the desktop because it is depreciated and for legacy software only don't you get? In the version of Windows after Blue the desktop will be gone completely and will only exist as a modified copy of Windows 7/8 running in VM software with no 3D acceleration (and thus no CUDA/DXVA support either).

 

[Rydian]

What part of you aren't supposed to use the desktop because it is depreciated and for legacy software only don't you get? In the version of Windows after Blue the desktop will be gone completely and will only exist as a modified copy of Windows 7/8 running in VM software with no 3D acceleration (and thus no CUDA/DXVA support either).

[Citation Needed]