'XBOX ONE' ANNOUNCED!

[the_randomizer]

Oh no, I get those judgments, but seeing people calling the unreleased XBOX weaker than the unreleased Playstation and both being far superior to the Wii U... You'd think these people had Doctorates in Computer Engineering and worked for Microsoft and Playstation and have the inside scoop.

The hardware is better than the Wii U, I won't deny that, but that doesn't mean all the games will suck, they may not be graphically superior than the PS4 or Xbox One, but they will still be fun

 

[hhs]

Or the XBOX fans will double-down on their Wii U bashing to deflect attention. D:

I'm not impressed with either of these blunder boxes yet. They may win me over some day but right now consoles are looking pretty grim.

 

[Tigran]

People are saying the WII U is weaker than the X1....

Not so sure that is true. For one, we don't know the CPU or the GPU comparisons... And yes... The X1 has 8 gigs of ram.. but look at all the shit that is running in the background... The actual games will probably have about 1 gig to play around with.

 

[grossaffe]

The hardware is better than the Wii U, I won't deny that, but that doesn't mean all the games will suck, they may not be graphically superior than the PS4 or Xbox One, but they will still be fun

I'm not saying the hardware won't be better, but we know very little, for example, about the XBOX's GPU. The Wii U's strength comes from GPGPU, which is why it's CPU is more modestly powered while they put in a powerful GPU, so I have little doubt the XBOX will feature a more powerful CPU, but the question remains how powerful the XBOX's GPU is, and how the CPU and GPU will come together for the performance of the system as a whole (of course other pieces of hardware will also be a part of the overall system performance as well)

 

[chavosaur]

People are saying the WII U is weaker than the X1....

Not so sure that is true. For one, we don't know the CPU or the GPU comparisons... And yes... The X1 has 8 gigs of ram.. but look at all the shit that is running in the background... The actual games will probably have about 1 gig to play around with.

The reason why people automatically say the wii u is weaker is because of the outdated tech it continues to use. It's been discussed in a lot of other threads and I'm not that knowledgeable in it, but from what I've read, it's using tech that's like, 8 years old
Compared to these next gen consoles, it can be pretty easily overpowered.

 

[Bladexdsl]

People are saying the WII U is weaker than the X1....

Not so sure that is true. For one, we don't know the CPU or the GPU comparisons... And yes... The X1 has 8 gigs of ram.. but look at all the shit that is running in the background... The actual games will probably have about 1 gig to play around with.

don't forget it's also running windows 8 so even less ram

 

[the_randomizer]

The funny thing is, no one knows what the Xbox One CPU is, aside from being a custom Microsoft CPU, whatever that means. We know it has eight cores, but what are the clock speeds? What's the architecture? How many cores are actually used in-game, the OS, etc?

 

[Tigran]

Exactly... Right now it is possible (not saying it is.. Just possible)

That the X1 and PS4 are 100 foot tall walls with big holes in them,

While the WiiU is 30 foot tall walls that people can climb over.

Both get the same amount of work done... just doing it in different ways.

 

[the_randomizer]

Exactly... Right now it is possible (not saying it is.. Just possible)

That the X1 and PS4 are 100 foot tall walls with big holes in them,

While the WiiU is 30 foot tall walls that people can climb over.

Both get the same amount of work done... just doing it in different ways.

I would assume the old Wii/Wii U architecture was kept for backwards compatibility. Then GPGPU.

 

[grossaffe]

The funny thing is, no one knows what the Xbox One CPU is. We know it has eight cores, but what are the clock speeds? How many cores are actually used in-game, the OS, etc?

All I know about it is that it's got 8 cores and uses the x86 architecture. Personally, I'm not a fan of the x86 architecture. It was constructed as a CISC processor, has a lot of legacy functions it supports (meaning transistors wasted supporting these 16 bit operations and such, but maybe the XBOX will have a custom processor to get rid of the legacy support since it doesn't have old programs it needs to support), but people have since decided that RISC processors are more efficient, so the x86 processors these days are implemented as RISC processors simulating the old CISC instructions.

tl;dr: I don't like x86

 

[fvig2001]

I'll probably end up buying this once there's like a Dance Central or Just Dance for it. Damn you kinect for making me want to dance... in private. It's a good thing I'm selfish and I don't like buying games from strangers/friends, so most of the issues don't really affect me. Hopefully they won't make XBox live Gold mandatory. Now that I think about it, it's kind of a waste to buy this for kinect games though.

Oh well, hopefully there are great exclusives for this console that I would actually play that don't get ported to PC. So that it won't be a total waste. Hopefully they churn out games faster than the Wii U currently does.

 

[Bladexdsl]

when the xbox one forums are added we should go in and create threads like:

Omg xbox one is doomed
thoughts on the xbox one?
is the xbox one worth buying?

and give them a taste of their own medicine!

 

[chavosaur]

when the xbox one forums are added we should go in and create threads like:

Omg xbox one is doomed
thoughts on the xbox one?
is the xbox one worth buying?

and give them a taste of their own medicine!

Because mindless revenge over a console that hasn't been put to the test of sales yet is fun right?
Because we certainly shouldn't see how it stacks up against beloved Nintendo Before we go bash it just because we are butthurt right?
Right guise?
Right?

 

[grossaffe]

when the xbox one forums are added we should go in and create threads like:

Omg xbox one is doomed
thoughts on the xbox one?
is the xbox one worth buying?

and give them a taste of their own medicine!

Nah, show 'em up by having more class

 

[the_randomizer]

Nah, show 'em up by having more class

I didn't know people on the internet had class.

 

[Bladexdsl]

you guys should see the shit storms RAGING on gametrailers about this

 

[the_randomizer]

you guys should see the shit storms RAGING on gametrailers about this

I can only imagine the mentality those turds emanate

 

[Ray Lewis]

Pay per game transfer...need internet on to activate games. Few questions....
1.) Is xbox live required to activate games?
2.) Will live be free or you MUST pay for it like with 360?
3.) If I buy a game, loan it to a friend who then PAYS for it like a new game, and he then gives it back; must I pay AGAIN?
4.) It needed the extra "stuff" for the three OSes, background bs, and stuff that honestly I am not sure people will care about. "Everything it offers is already offered for free elsewhere" or close to it.
5.) If I don't have an internet connection, will games work without being "verified" or will it insist I register it with my LIVE ID. Lol, without internet I likely would not have a LIVE ID

THIS being said, there would be easy compatibility and with full system control it has potential. The specs, they appear to trump Wii U but again, Wii U is gaming first and the rest second, while Xbox one seems to be everything else first and gaming second. My wife said, "So does this mean used games from Gamestop or something will not be the same, buy it from Gamestop for a cheaper price is not an option with this?" I told her about how it appears to be "Per TRANSFER fee as it is tied to your live account" and she said, "Wow, they think people are going to go for that once they see all the fees behind it all?"

--This is why I asked those questions. To be fair, I want to understand those points. Not bashing, but I will say it appears the rumours were correct. "No used games...requires always on connection." Maybe the second part was changed a little bit. You only need to activate the game with your live ID. I read a few links and maybe somebody could point me to the answers. The "Per transfer" fee that some cite supported by a 360 exec's tweets really turned me off.

I consider this a genuine series of questions. This is not meant to be "bashing" or "Xbox One is going to die, MS will be leaving the console making business and should...they could then put Halo on other systems" types of statements.

 

[the_randomizer]

Pay per game transfer...need internet on to activate games. Few questions....
1.) Is xbox live required to activate games?
2.) Will live be free or you MUST pay for it like with 360?
3.) If I buy a game, loan it to a friend who then PAYS for it like a new game, and he then gives it back; must I pay AGAIN?
4.) It needed the extra "stuff" for the three OSes, background bs, and stuff that honestly I am not sure people will care about. "Everything it offers is already offered for free elsewhere" or close to it.
5.) If I don't have an internet connection, will games work without being "verified" or will it insist I register it with my LIVE ID. Lol, without internet I likely would not have a LIVE ID

THIS being said, there would be easy compatibility and with full system control it has potential. The specs, they appear to trump Wii U but again, Wii U is gaming first and the rest second, while Xbox one seems to be everything else first and gaming second. My wife said, "So does this mean used games from Gamestop or something will not be the same, buy it from Gamestop for a cheaper price is not an option with this?" I told her about how it appears to be "Per TRANSFER fee as it is tied to your live account" and she said, "Wow, they think people are going to go for that once they see all the fees behind it all?"

--This is why I asked those questions. To be fair, I want to understand those points. Not bashing, but I will say it appears the rumours were correct. "No used games...requires always on connection." Maybe the second part was changed a little bit. You only need to activate the game with your live ID. I read a few links and maybe somebody could point me to the answers. The "Per transfer" fee that some cite supported by a 360 exec's tweets really turned me off.

I consider this a genuine series of questions. This is not meant to be "bashing" or "Xbox One is going to die, MS will be leaving the console making business and should...they could then put Halo on other systems" types of statements.

I just don't find it to be all that appealing. I agree that games should come first, then anything auxiliary or superfluous should come second. I don't know how well it's going to sell or gain the appeal of those who are looking forward to having one. To be honest, the PS4 sounds a lot more appealing, but that's just how I feel. What I feel and what I voice my opinion on has no reflection on how others may feel about said consoles

 

[Ray Lewis]

I just don't find it to be all that appealing. I agree that games should come first, then anything auxiliary or superfluous should come second. I don't know how well it's going to sell or gain the appeal of those who are looking forward to having one. To be honest, the PS4 sounds a lot more appealing, but that's just how I feel. What I feel and what I voice my opinion on has no reflection on how others may feel about said consoles

The reason why people automatically say the wii u is weaker is because of the outdated tech it continues to use. It's been discussed in a lot of other threads and I'm not that knowledgeable in it, but from what I've read, it's using tech that's like, 8 years old
Compared to these next gen consoles, it can be pretty easily overpowered.

Seriously, just consider my questions and I know you will. I have not seen other sites/threads on this. MY guess; failure as it currently is demonstrated. Who wants subscription fees for a 7 year old that parents don't want playing violent games? Who wants to know their kid cannot trade games without buying it new, LMFAO. ROLMFAO. Seriously?

MS thinks everyone is loaded and rich, no debt, and thousands of dollars in the bank or something. When people realize this stuff, they will regret not being informed and want to throw away their system (or sell it to some other ignorant fool) OR they will research and say, forgive the language, "Fuck that shit." People with kids and families are the majority, and Nintendo knows this, and Nintendo has THOSE games kids love generation after generation. COD 20 as a launch sell for the Xbox One I saw today? Lol, expect anything else? What will launch price be? MANY survive on patience and used game purchases.

1.) Expect used games to be charged less by MS after outrage builds (before or after launch). They will try this to test how stupid people are and how much they will tolerate. Look at their actions and tell me this is wrong (honestly).

2.) Expect an update to game policy on transfer "fees." Maybe able to loan to one person might be allowed. HOWEVER, if they don't take these steps, they are in literal trouble more than people THINK Wii U is in trouble.