Homebrew Will GBA emulators ever fully work?

[link6155]

NDS exists. Sudokuhax. The only problem is that it intentionally corrupts the decryption keys. They did that to prevent piracy.

It's not NDS emulation, it's sideloading a NDS rom and playing it natively. It's probably not the thing the OP is looking for since you can't play commercial games.

 

[MassExplosion213]

It's not NDS emulation, it's sideloading a NDS rom and playing it natively. It's probably not the thing the OP is looking for since you can't play commercial games.

Well, we should be able to load commercial games if we RE it and remove the key corruption.

 

[duffmmann]

I'd rather have emulated, actually. The "native" thing isn't going to work in every case or I think Nintendo would've released a lot more GBA games on the VC.

Savestates, fast forward, and cheats are also a really, really good thing.

Actually it does seem to work in every case (at least what I e seen so far), I have about 80 injected GBA VC titles working on my 3DS all at full speed and zero issues. Perhaps there do exist compatibility issues, but I've encountered none of that with all my favorite GBA games and even some Pokemon rom hacks as well. I'd highly recommend GBA VC injects to anyone wanting GBA games on their 3DS. it would be nice to have save states, cheats, and fast forward/rewind, but none of those features are pressing needs for me. I'm just grateful we have full speed playback for all the greatest GBA titles if you are fortunate enough to be able to install .cia files

 

[Axselerate]

Actually it does seem to work in every case (at least what I e seen so far), I have about 80 injected GBA VC titles working on my 3DS all at full speed and zero issues. Perhaps there do exist compatibility issues, but I've encountered none of that with all my favorite GBA games and even some Pokemon rom hacks as well. I'd highly recommend GBA VC injects to anyone wanting GBA games on their 3DS. it would be nice to have save states, cheats, and fast forward/rewind, but none of those features are pressing needs for me. I'm just grateful we have full speed playback for all the greatest GBA titles if you are fortunate enough to be able to install .cia files

um would you mind explaining it to me in the most noob way possible, Like what do i need to do this and stuff like that please and thank you
also o3ds 9.9 oot3dhax

 

[WeedZ]

um would you mind explaining it to me in the most noob way possible, Like what do i need to do this and stuff like that please and thank you
also o3ds 9.9 oot3dhax

9.2 and less only. Requires signiture patching which just isn't possible for higher firmware yet.

 

[McHaggis]

Actually it does seem to work in every case (at least what I e seen so far), I have about 80 injected GBA VC titles working on my 3DS all at full speed and zero issues. Perhaps there do exist compatibility issues, but I've encountered none of that with all my favorite GBA games and even some Pokemon rom hacks as well. I'd highly recommend GBA VC injects to anyone wanting GBA games on their 3DS. it would be nice to have save states, cheats, and fast forward/rewind, but none of those features are pressing needs for me. I'm just grateful we have full speed playback for all the greatest GBA titles if you are fortunate enough to be able to install .cia files

It's possible that they discontinued development of GBA VC because of time constraints. Although the speed and quality seem fine, you'll notice there's no home menu support and no state saving like the other VC titles. I'd confidently speculate that they felt GBA VC didn't meet their standards for a full retail release and so they put it on the back burner.

 

[MyJoyConRunsHot]

There's no dynarec access with current exploit. PSP is actually more powerful than o3ds (don't know about N3ds).

Is this a serious point? Or are you just referring to the current state homebrew scene between the two. I hope it's the latter as I've yet to see a PSP game that liiks close to the best of the 3DS.

 

[doctorgoat]

Is this a serious point? Or are you just referring to the current state homebrew scene between the two. I hope it's the latter as I've yet to see a PSP game that liiks close to the best of the 3DS.

This is a serious point.

MHP3rd and MH4u are both probably the most gorgeous things on either system. I'm not really sure how how much of that's developer skill/optimization though.

 

[MyJoyConRunsHot]

This is a serious point.

MHP3rd and MH4u are both probably the most gorgeous things on either system. I'm not really sure how how much of that's developer skill/optimization though.

Resident evil and Ironfall Invasion are the best looking and best performing games on the 3DS, the latter more than the former. MH3rd pales in comparison to said games in performance and looks.

 

[WeedZ]

Is this a serious point? Or are you just referring to the current state homebrew scene between the two. I hope it's the latter as I've yet to see a PSP game that liiks close to the best of the 3DS.

Pretty sure the psp is more powerful as far as raw processing power. The psp could be clocked at 333mhz while the 3ds (if I'm not mistaken) only has about 260 - 270mhz.

While the 3ds has higher resolution display and dedicated gfx, games fail miserably against the psp line up in terms of performance. I've yet to see a fully explorable 3d world (w/o load lag) on any 3ds game. Which was a boast for alot of psp games at the time

 

[Imaginesafety]

Why do people keep asking this? People don't understand how much effort it takes to emulate a system.

Emulation refers to the ability of a computer program in an electronic device to emulate (imitate) another program or device.

To be able to do this, you need hardware that's superior to the original console first. Then you have to make a program (the emulator) that sits between the hardware and ROM, this program has to be able to translate what the ROM is 'saying' into what the computer can understand (emulation). This is a difficult task because unlike games running natively on the original console, games on an emulator don't have a direct access to the hardware. GBA emulation is certainly possible on the 3DS, but it will take some time before we get perfectly optimized emulation (especially for the old 3DS). A lot of the 3DS hardware is still be discovered by homebrewers, at this point we don't know the true potential the 3DS has.

I don't see an NDS emulator anytime soon. The reason being that there are flashcarts that can play NDS games on your 3DS, basically making emulation near pointless. The only real benifit of emulating NDS games is that you won't need to buy a flashcart.

Something like Usbloadergx is not going to happen with the Homebrew Launcher. The main reason is that the Homebrew Launcher is strictly for Homebrews only, Smea condemns pirating 3DS games for obvious reasons. If you could sideload 3DS ROMs, this would catch Nintendo's attention pretty quickly and we'll have no more Homebrews altogether.

You made a lot of points. I forgot ds flash cards worked with 3ds. And I didn't say anything about 3ds pirating. While that could increase hardware sales, I know software sales would be near to none if most people found out. I actually care about Nintendo succeeding financially, so don't think otherwise. People who are making 3ds emulators on PC will ultimately kill both hardware and software sales to a certain degree. I forgot the name of the 3ds emu in progress (citrus I believe) I've seen comments saying "idk if I should buy a 3ds or wait for the emulator to be finished." All I want is to play gba and ds games. Snes too.

 

[AtlasFontaine]

It will work the day we get a kernel exploit that allows us to use dynarec.

The 3DS emulator, Citra, in progress is years away from being perfect. By the time it's optimize the 3DS will be a thing of the past. That's what happen with the Dolphin emulator. Dolphin didn't get good until the Wii was at the end of it's life-cycle and it's still not even close to perfection.

Tip for those who are looking into 3DS emulators/homebrews, buy the New 3DS or New 3DS XL. The better specs alone means that emulators will be much more enjoyable.

There are people that can't buy even a game for 3ds so..

 

[link6155]

You made a lot of points. I forgot ds flash cards worked with 3ds. And I didn't say anything about 3ds pirating. While that could increase hardware sales, I know software sales would be near to none if most people found out. I actually care about Nintendo succeeding financially, so don't think otherwise. People who are making 3ds emulators on PC will ultimately kill both hardware and software sales to a certain degree. I forgot the name of the 3ds emu in progress (citrus I believe) I've seen comments saying "idk if I should buy a 3ds or wait for the emulator to be finished." All I want is to play gba and ds games. Snes too.

The 3DS emulator, Citra, in progress is years away from being perfect. By the time it's optimize the 3DS will be a thing of the past. That's what happen with the Dolphin emulator. Dolphin didn't get good until the Wii was at the end of it's life-cycle and it's still not even close to perfection.

Tip for those who are looking into 3DS emulators/homebrews, buy the New 3DS or New 3DS XL. The better specs alone means that emulators will be much more enjoyable.

 

[Margen67]

NDS exists. Sudokuhax. The only problem is that it intentionally corrupts the decryption keys. They did that to prevent piracy.

What cool people

 

[MyJoyConRunsHot]

Pretty sure the psp is more powerful as far as raw processing power. The psp could be clocked at 333mhz while the 3ds (if I'm not mistaken) only has about 260 - 270mhz.

You must not have much education in the way of computer hardware if you think mhz is still a valid measure of overall processor performance. The Xbox 360's CPU clocked at 3.2Ghz is stronger than the Xbox one's CPU which is clocked at 1.75Ghz?

While the 3ds has higher resolution display and dedicated gfx, games fail miserably against the psp line up in terms of performance. I've yet to see a fully explorable 3d world (w/o load lag) on any 3ds game. Which was a boast for alot of psp games at the time

I'm sensing trolling or just someone who doesn't actually own a 3DS. Ironfall, E.X troopers, MonHun (X)/Stories, Hyrule warriors, Resident evil revelations and a whole slew of other games are technically inferior to whatever the PSP's best could put out? And mind you, I have owned a PSP and a large library of it's technically impressive games. Why don't you name some of these illusive PSP games that can stand up against Ironfall, a game that rivals original Xbox graphics, can display smoke/particle, water effects along with 40 enemies on screen simultaneously(as stated by the devs themselves), wide open maps and impressive lighting?

 

[WeedZ]

You must not have much education in the way of computer hardware if you think mhz is still a valid measure of overall processor performance. The Xbox 360's CPU clocked at 3.2Ghz is stronger than the Xbox one's CPU which is clocked at 1.75Ghz?


I'm sensing trolling or just someone who doesn't actually own a 3DS. Ironfall, E.X troopers, MonHun (X)/Stories, Hyrule warriors, Resident evil revelations and a whole slew of other games are technically inferior to whatever the PSP's best could put out? And mind you, I have owned a PSP and a large library of it's technically impressive games. Why don't you name some of these illusive PSP games that can stand up against Ironfall, a game that rivals original Xbox graphics, can display smoke/particle, water effects along with 40 enemies on screen simultaneously(as stated by the devs themselves), wide open maps and impressive lighting?

It could be that I'm confusing sub-par game development with performance. Cause all of the games you listed suck ass. And iron fall, I've seen better games on my phone.

If the 3ds is so much more powerful, they don't know how to use it.

 

[SLiV3R]

Please, can a moderator close this thread? GBA is already fullspeed. You can choose from gba injection or the Retroarch cia version of gpsp. End of discussion.

 

[Garcia98]

Please, can a moderator close this thread? GBA is already fullspeed. You can choose from gba injection or the Retroarch cia version of gpsp. End of discussion.

Maybe with N3DS but not with O3DS

 

[shinyquagsire23]

Please, can a moderator close this thread? GBA is already fullspeed. You can choose from gba injection or the Retroarch cia version of gpsp. End of discussion.

Even more so now on N3DS, CitrAGB as a .CIA can leverage the N3DS-enhanced flags in addition to dynrec, and actually runs at full speed even in OAM-heavy games. The same changes can probably be backported to Retroarch too.

 

[intensje]

Even more so now on N3DS, CitrAGB as a .CIA can leverage the N3DS-enhanced flags in addition to dynrec, and actually runs at full speed even in OAM-heavy games. The same changes can probably be backported to Retroarch too.

is full speed emulation of GBA games possible in any way on a 9.9 N3DS with tubehax?