Will 3DS ever emulate PSP, PS1 and Game Cube?

Discussion in '3DS - Homebrew Development and Emulators' started by diowolf, Aug 28, 2015.

  1. doctorgoat

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    Both done by relatively high budget teams who had access to their original source and the full 3ds sdk.

    Another example: The Vita can run Persona 4. Nothing anyone in most of the scenes combined could make another ps2 smt game run.
     
  2. Philip3ds

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    Maybe someone can make Riivolution for 3ds, then you can create levels from gamecube, ps1, n64, psp, to the 3ds.
     
  3. Clydefrosch

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    without sound and at 1% speed and with graphic issues, I dont see why not
     
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    I thought smealum post a video once where he did a gba rom injection? If Nintendo ever released a gamecube vc game then something like this could be possible. For a long time it was thought that Gamecube usb loading would never be done and look how that has progressed, without a high budget team doing it.
     
  5. sj33

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    You're missing the point. Gamecube VC games will never exist for the 3DS because the hardware isn't capable of it. It doesn't matter if Nintendo or anybody else makes it. Rom injection is of course hypothetically possible - we've seen it already with GBA, MegaDrive, Game Gear games etc. But this doesn't really have much relevence to the Gamecube because no such VC emulation exists.

    The comparison with USB loading doesn't make sense. Gamecube VC games would require emulation of a 486MHz PPC and ATi Flipper GPU along with the associated memory, accurate timings etc.... whereas USB loading requires coding a USB interface. There's no similarity between those two.
     
  6. SickPuppy

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    There is an old article somewhere on the net where nSpace said that porting Geist to the 3DS was possible, nSpace said that the hardware was capable.
     
  7. sj33

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    Yes, porting. Porting. PORTING. Porting has nothing to do with emulation.

    Porting is where you take the source code of the game and recreate the ENTIRE GAME for the new hardware using the source code. You could not 'inject' a GameCube game into this because a ported game would no longer be a GameCube game - it would be a native 3DS game.

    The reason you can inject roms into VC games because VC games have an embedded emulator. They're not ported, they're emulated. Porting != emulation.
     
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  8. emmanu888

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    If the 3DS can ever emulate the PS1, its probably going to be simple 2D games. Emulation on the 3DS only just got to 32-bit emulation with the GBA emulator
     
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    Where do I learn?
     
  10. SickPuppy

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    Yes, you're right, and emulators is what the op asked about. Gamecube games was on his list of games to play on his 3DS. I don't think he cares about the method of which the games are loaded. Most people already know that a homebrew gamecube emulator will most likely not be possible. I think that Nintendo needs to release a GC game in the eShop before this is ever possible, and it don't look like that is going to happen because the 3DS could be nearing it's life span. Perhaps the N3DS would be a better target for a GC port because of the extra processing power.
     
  11. sj33

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    ...but a port on the N3DS would still not be any help because you can't inject games into port, only into emulators.
     
  12. Fat D

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    Porting: Making an entirely new game that looks, plays and feels like the old game. Important part: You need to make every game from scratch (yes, it is oversimplified), which usually means several months worth of work for one game.
    Emulation: You make the machine pretend to be the machine the game was originally made for. Lots of effort up-front, extremely inefficient performance-wise, but you can pretty much reuse the original games as they were, so doing the same procedure for a new game simply involves taking the same emulator and putting in another game.
    You cannot just swap the game in a port, because the original game is nowhere in there - the port is an (almost) entirely new piece of software written for the new machine from the ground up.
     
  13. SickPuppy

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    Ok, lets look at the ps3. I have loaded PS2 backups with multiman on my slim. I'm sure that not all ps2 backups will work, but the 6 or 7 games that I did try worked fine. The 3DS scene needs to progress, cfw is still kind of new. The method that Nintendo uses to launch a gamecube and wii titles on the 3DS needs to be more thoroughly examined. Don't say that it isn't possible because somebody will prove you wrong.
     
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  14. DutchyDutch

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    Actually you can play all of the above on 3DS. With alot of lag.
    1. Download EDPjoy for 3DS
    2.Find emulators for PC
    3.Stream PC to 3DS
    4.Enjoy!
     
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    PSX could maybe run with frameskip at playable speeds but not 100% speed, except maybe the most basic games.
    The other two definitely not, emulating a console takes many times the processing power of that console and the 3DS is no more powerful than the PSP, the o3DS is in fact less powerful.
     
  16. Clydefrosch

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    what are you talking about?
    there is nothing to be examined, nintendo cant launch gamecube or wii titles on 3ds because 3ds isn't in any way, shape or form capable of running emulations of these.

    it can run ports of course, like xenoblade, but as has been stated a dozen times now, a port is different from emulation. ports are just 3ds games made to resemble the original source. but they are, technically, entirely different games
     
  17. SickPuppy

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    Not to take this any further, all of you are right, we'll never be able to take a dump of a gamecube game an play it on a 3DS. My bad.
     
  18. AmandaRose

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    It makes me laugh how many people on here can't understand the difference between a port and an emulator even when it has been explained to them in very basic and easy to understand ways it's no rocket science people
     
  19. SickPuppy

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    You want in on this too, who you talking about? These two above you keep going on about emulation even thought I already stated that a homebrew emulator would more than likely never work.
     
  20. AmandaRose

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    Excatly what I mean my friend oand on other posts people keep going on about games that have been ported to the 3ds and how you could inject other games ect.
     
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