Hardware WiiU Current gen?

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No, that's not what I said. I said it's an upgraded Wii, I did not say it's similar. I also, in the exact same sentence, without even a separator noted that it's the exact same situation as the Wii being an upgraded GC.

i.e. it's built like that for backwards-compatibility and cost reasons, which affects performance due to the core technologies that need to be supported being older.

We have official specs, unofficial specs, data from Intel, measured clock speeds from Marcan, and people who can even run multi-core code from inside vWii. The Wii U is a higher-clocked Wii with two more cores (and some additional L2 cache I presume, the category was not specified).
If people can already run multi core, why not share with Maxternals? If Linux is ported using it, why not share? This is the type of "inside baseball" that makes me want to shatter my keyboard.

Maxternal and a handful are trying/helping. It could save time to give Linux with three cores as then next steps could be worked on. Or at least say, "This is all you will be given.".

I've actually been supportive of Marcan's blog and sharing "something" but if others are withholding that is bulls5u4. How else test three cores as you said. People trying with limited abilities while others have it?!

Wii U is not terrible. Not amazing either. Only thing people support is...piracy. "Won't help or give more as it leads to piracy.". Enter the piracy crowd with no proof/facts showing any conclusive tie between piracy and system death.

While not releasing to public, the "31" may have it all. Wii U mode, nand key(s), exploit, etc. Only been seeking Linux with 3 cores. Yet, while doing this, all anyone shows is Wii/GC interest, and a willingness for making statements like you did that strongly insinuate what Maxternal is trying for is already done.

All reasons to not share are crap except to help pirate chip makers. Getting a cut of that? New trend going to be, "Hack, brag, withhold, let only what we claim to oppose occur.". Maybe even a cut, lol. "Avoid Wii U mode control and get 5% of our sales, no alternative, so people must buy our stuff.". I am trying to find any way to make this logical for those sitting on information.

If system is such garbage, then why even waste time hacking it? Android devices out for years, out in Wii days, laptops can do all except piracy and are mobile. Saying closed systems are not worth unlocking just does not make sense.

Given what you said Rydian , people running 3 cores already in vWii mode, I hope others hack and release.

Edit: speculation does not seem to be your trend Rydian . So while considering you may be speculating, I figured it is unlikely you were/are about 3 cores in vWii.
 
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Insomniac was basically 2nd party to Sony since the PS1 (only now treading waters other than Sony). Did you expect them to say something different?
Huh? Another idea; more $ in finding hacks and selling findings to companies. "Have control Nintendo.". Nintendo response; "Cease and desist" approach, or ask, "How much $ to keep you quiet? How much to reveal all findings.". It is a trend the last few years. Hack for freedom? Or sell out and make money while following passion but morally feeling righteous.

I want to take Marcan's word at face value from blog. Beginning steps, show interest, 3 cores with Linux port. I get that. However, if people are sitting back laughing it up, that is bs.

I've seen this behavior from other scenes and groups. Sit on info to allow others or your own group to profit. See "Xecuter" for prime examples.
 
What the hell are you talking about? I didn't mention Linux, or people having done beyond what's been shown to be possible to all of us here in the forums already.

Copy/pasted; We have official specs, unofficial specs, data from Intel, measured clock speeds from Marcan, and people who can even run multi-core code from inside vWii. The Wii U is a higher-clocked Wii with two more cores (and some additional L2 cache I presume, the category was not specified).

People who can run multi-core code.... Only seen work on this in Maxternal's thread. So if it has not happened, why cite running multi core stuff running in vWii? You were either speculating or know information I certainly to not. You said it, not me.
 
Copy/pasted; We have official specs, unofficial specs, data from Intel, measured clock speeds from Marcan, and people who can even run multi-core code from inside vWii. The Wii U is a higher-clocked Wii with two more cores (and some additional L2 cache I presume, the category was not specified).

People who can run multi-core code.... Only seen work on this in Maxternal's thread. So if it has not happened, why cite running multi core stuff running in vWii? You were either speculating or know information I certainly to not. You said it, not me.
I'm...going to repeat Rydian's statement here, as this explanation makes even less sense than your previous one...

What the hell are you talking about?

This is a thread about whether or not the wiiu is next-gen or not. You're pretty much accusing Rydian for not helping out on hacking things while all he's doing is pointing out the wiiu's hardware.
I mean...you're coming off as someone who accuses someone who knows about car engines for not making enough effort to make an engine that uses water as fuel.
 
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Copy/pasted; We have official specs, unofficial specs, data from Intel, measured clock speeds from Marcan, and people who can even run multi-core code from inside vWii. The Wii U is a higher-clocked Wii with two more cores (and some additional L2 cache I presume, the category was not specified).

People who can run multi-core code.... Only seen work on this in Maxternal's thread. So if it has not happened, why cite running multi core stuff running in vWii? You were either speculating or know information I certainly to not. You said it, not me.
The information is available due to people (Marcan etc) having 3 cores running, the code made available wasn't just pulled out of thin air...
 
When talking about generation in terms of when systems came out in relation to eachother, the Wii U is this gen.

When talking about the hardware inside, it's not. It's an upgraded Wii just like the Wii was an upgraded Gamecube.
QFT. Technically the Wii U is a Next Gen console, but it's running on Last Gen hardware. In a lot of ways, the Wii U is what the Wii should've been specs wise. Similarily the OUYA is a Next Generation system despite having smartphone-grade hardware.
 
Some are trying to get 3 cores running in vWii. Rydian said 3 cores used (quoted above). Too difficult to follow? I cited the part of his post to show what I referred to. Seriously, if 3 cores are up and running, then it should be shared. Rydian made up 3 core part of his statement or knows something people like Maxternal and others are not told about. If this is all too difficult to understand... where the hell were you educated? Lol.
 
Rydian made up 3 core part of his statement or knows something people like Maxternal and others are not told about.
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Who cares what some developer says about a certain console?
Either you support the console or not...

I know I sure as hell doesn't care if someone calls it nextgen or currentgenl all that matters to me is if the console will get good games, and i know Nintendo will deliver on that in time.
I'm sure they will announce games at E3 this year that will be more than enough to let me continue to enjoy my WiiU
 
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if i believed everything fanboys, devs, graphic whores and idiots said about every console, game, pc than i would never play ANY games at all! :rofl:

if YOUR a gamer do YOU play games OR consoles? the answer is obvious :P
 
If your post had a song to it, it would be the "My Horse Is Amazing" song, but with "post" replacing "horse", and other changes.
He said what he said like it was also within that 3 core mode that this stuff was tested (processor stuff). I honestly don't give a shit about negatives. If you can code, then use those skills and help Maxternal. Rydian said those words and for Rydian, insinuation is usually not what I find in their posts. If some have the 3 cores, and he knows, then it is BS. Otherwise, Rydian was speculating. Marcan suggested others work on 3 core and PORT linux, read everything he said on blog post and other places. So unless it was done and fact, then the 3 core stuff was NOT tested in vWii/linux environment.
 


Thats way too much effort to deal with an off topic poster .. lol... love the stars... heh


On Topic : I always understood "next gen" to refer to up coming consoles. So in my eyes the Xbox360 , PS3 and WiiU are current gen as i can go and buy them right now , pre WiiU i woulda classed it as next gen . Although i dont assume the next gen console to be better than any predecessor that is the general consensus , i dont think for one minute that the wii mini was next gen prior to release lol. :)
 
The WiiU is part of the next generation cycle of consoles so yes, it is next gen.

P.S. Ratchet & Clank and Resistance will sorely be missed...
 
The WiiU is part of the next generation cycle of consoles so yes, it is next gen.

P.S. Ratchet & Clank and Resistance will sorely be missed...
As is the OUYA.

...and why would Ratchet & Clank or Resistance be missed if both franchises saw new releases recently (Ratchet & Clank: Full Frontal Assault/Q Force, Resistance: Burning Skies)? Moreover, what do those two franchises have to do with Wii U's classification as a Next Generation or Current Generation system? :P
For the second time, I never mentioned Linux.

Stop making shit up.
I think he's talking about the general situation as far as using three cores in vWii is concerned, meaning he thinks that it's not entirely known whether or not it can be used. He merely misunderstood what marcan said, so to clarify, if he says it can be done via some tricks in vWii it means that he tested it in some shape or form with a basic application because that's what he does - he wouldn't post instructions, no matter how basic, for doing something that can't actually be done.
 
Referring to the Insomnia Games comment. A bit of sarcasm on my end. Why would anyone care what Insomnia Games have to say about the WiiU. They make average games at best. The WiiU will be perfectly fine without their help.
 

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