Why would I use emunand?

[MasterJ360]

Emunand is like a closed door that you can do your dirty stuff behind anonymously
Vs Sysnand your doing dirty stuff out in the public, but at night(Not using online) - still risking being caught b/c your sysnand is dirty.

 

[Raugo]

you need just one big mistake on sysNand to brick your switch. Emunand is like a sandbox.

TLDR; its safer.

Having a emmc backup sys is exactly same sandbox and safe lthan emu.

Emunand is like a closed door that you can do your dirty stuff behind anonymously
Vs Sysnand your doing dirty stuff out in the public, but at night(Not using online) - still risking being caught b/c your sysnand is dirty.

You can have the exactly same closed door in sys, he said that is not interested in online then he can use 90 dns incognito etc to protect it.

 

[MasterJ360]

Having a emmc backup sys is exactly same sandbox and safe lthan emu.



You can have the exactly same closed door in sys, he said that is not interested in online then he can use 90 dns incognito etc to protect it.

So pretty much he already has a banned switch. Just not officially from Nintendo. If he doesn't care why even bother making a thread about having emunand? Emunand is for ppl that do care and not wanting a dirty sysnand regardless if it a closed door or not.

 

[MacBlaster]

Having a emmc backup sys is exactly same sandbox and safe lthan emu.

if you are this confident, that nothing could go wrong... so you dont need a emunand.

im a bit more scared. For me, Backup and restore process should be viewed as CPR. You try not need it.

 

[l7777]

So pretty much he already has a banned switch. Just not officially from Nintendo. If he doesn't care why even bother making a thread about having emunand? Emunand is for ppl that do care and not wanting a dirty sysnand regardless if it a closed door or not.

The point of the thread was to see if there was an advantage OTHER than hiding from Nintendo or testing/building mods that could cause the system not to boot.

if you are this confident, that nothing could go wrong... so you dont need a emunand.

im a bit more scared. For me, Backup and restore process should be viewed as CPR. You try not need it.

Unless I'm misunderstanding, the nand backups made by Hekate are bit for bit. When restored it will be exactly as it was when the backup was taken for better or worse. I used these in the older Android days before they started cranking up the security around them. Worked perfectly.

 

[MasterJ360]

The point of the thread was to see if there was an advantage OTHER than hiding from Nintendo or testing/building mods that could cause the system not to boot.

The advantage is just having a separate nand to play around with while playing online on the sysnand. But you already knew this before making this thread judging from the list you made.

 

[impeeza]

If I:

1. Have a backup of the sysnand saved in multiple places
2. Don't play online
3. Don't care if I'm banned by Nintendo
4. Don't plan to do any significant modifications to the system files

I have a modded v2 switch and am running everything in emunand but I'm not sure I see why I need to do this given the above. Other than trying to hide from Nintendo or try out experimental system mods. Is there something else I'm missing?

Because you can!

 

[Ondrashek06]

modded v2 switch

Why are you lying? All V2 switches are patched, and patched = unhackable.

 

[kidkat210]

Why are you lying? All V2 switches are patched, and patched = unhackable.

V2s (markio) are hackable. Just requires a modchip. Yes they aren't exploitable to the rcm exploit but are hackable with either sx core, sx core lite (for the switch lite) or hwfly (supports all models even OLED)

 

[Ondrashek06]

V2s (markio) are hackable. Just requires a modchip. Yes they aren't exploitable to the rcm exploit but are hackable with either sx core, sx core lite (for the switch lite) or hwfly (supports all models even OLED)

Why are there so many people that suddenly know how to micro-solder (thing that requires years of practice) and know of black-market sites that sell the modchip?

 

[kidkat210]

I'm not sure how people are getting done specifically. They could know how to solder, they could know someone that knows how, they also could have taken the stuff to an electronic repair shop and had them solder it. There is alot of ways to go about achieving this.

As for acquiring the modchip, the only place that I know that sells them is the website aliexpress. But there are probably plenty more sites that sell them. Not just that, you can also buy a switch with the modchip installed off sites like eBay

 

[RednaxelaNnamtra]

The main reasons someone should use emunand in my oppinion are either, to have all backups and roms in a safe place, where you don't conenct to nintendo from, or if you are one of the few people with a patched erista switch that has a low enough firmware to use software exploits, and you want to have a current emunand to go online with.
For people not planning to use XCIs or NSPs in any way, and modding the switch just for homebrew like sys-dvr and sys-clk or retroarch, I would probably even suggest only using the sysnand. It makes it simpler, while atmosphere is mostly build to be used online. Also it allows to just use atmosphere releases and drop them on the SD, without the need to use any update packs that might contain unsafe thigs.

Some mention brick protection, but with normal use there are not that many things a user can do to accidentally brick their switch, and a backup always helps there. Unless maybe someone develops homebrew themself and experiments with the nand or downloads and installs a fake rom containing malware.

 

[Chaosta]

Why are there so many people that suddenly know how to micro-solder (thing that requires years of practice) and know of black-market sites that sell the modchip?

most people who have modded v2's paid a professional to solder it, its not hard at all to find one locally in a 1st world country,

what "black market sites" lmao, you think alibaba is the black market?

 

[l7777]

Why are there so many people that suddenly know how to micro-solder (thing that requires years of practice) and know of black-market sites that sell the modchip?

As others noted, I used an hwfly core chip. I've also been soldering for years, started with RC stuff, then modded a friend's 1st gen Xbox back when you had to solder 32 wires to it and the chip. Micro-soldering isn't that difficult if you have the right tools and know what you're doing. I actually did the install sans microscope. Unfortunately I knocked a couple capacitors off trying to get the CPU shield off. That prompted a microscope purchase to reflow them. While AliExpress is a known place for grey market items, they do have a robust sales platform and you can be reasonably sure you'll receive your item. My OLED mod chip just arrived today.

 

[Ondrashek06]

As others noted, I used an hwfly core chip. I've also been soldering for years, started with RC stuff, then modded a friend's 1st gen Xbox back when you had to solder 32 wires to it and the chip. Micro-soldering isn't that difficult if you have the right tools and know what you're doing. I actually did the install sans microscope. Unfortunately I knocked a couple capacitors off trying to get the CPU shield off. That prompted a microscope purchase to reflow them. While AliExpress is a known place for grey market items, they do have a robust sales platform and you can be reasonably sure you'll receive your item. My OLED mod chip just arrived today.

You do have years of practice with soldering. Not everybody has that.

Also, I don't even know where to start. Nintendo uses proprietary screws on the Switch instead of some screws like Phillips or flat-head, so that's another thing. You not only need to know soldering, but also:
- Know where to get the proprietary screwdriver.
- Know where does the chip go.
- Know what to solder so you don't hard-brick your console.
- Know how to re-assemble it after the job is done.

You make it sound easy, while it's not.

 

[kidkat210]

You do have years of practice with soldering. Not everybody has that.

Also, I don't even know where to start. Nintendo uses proprietary screws on the Switch instead of some screws like Phillips or flat-head, so that's another thing. You not only need to know soldering, but also:
- Know where to get the proprietary screwdriver.
- Know where does the chip go.
- Know what to solder so you don't hard-brick your console.
- Know how to re-assemble it after the job is done.

You make it sound easy, while it's not.

But your also making sound way harder than it is.
-For the the screws, you just need a small phillips and a small tri wing. Then you can get to anything in the console.
-If I remember correctly, the modchip comes with a "guide" for where it goes and what to solder. Not just that, there's schematics of the switch out there that tells us what is what one the board.

All of this is feasible, hence the many threads on here bout makrio units

 

[Ondrashek06]

But your also making sound way harder than it is.
-For the the screws, you just need a small phillips and a small tri wing. Then you can get to anything in the console.
-If I remember correctly, the modchip comes with a "guide" for where it goes and what to solder. Not just that, there's schematics of the switch out there that tells us what is what one the board.

All of this is feasible, hence the many threads on here bout makrio units

But then you manage to accidentally break a tiny hidden part which hard-bricks your switch.

 

[kidkat210]

That's saying you screw up. Also we have the ability to replace almost, if not all, parts on the motherboard. So with the proper files, the right tools and knowledge. It's all possible. And again, there are services out there where ppl can pay to get it done

 

[Ondrashek06]

That's saying you screw up. Also we have the ability to replace almost, if not all, parts on the motherboard. So with the proper files, the right tools and knowledge. It's all possible. And again, there are services out there where ppl can pay to get it done

What kind of services are there in my country? I'm not located in the US, and all repair shops do not do that.

 

[kidkat210]

That I don't know since;
1) idk where you live
2) I live in the US
3) you can't say they all don't unless you've contacted them asking.
Yes there used to be alot more places/people that would provide the service, but nintendo has been going after them with C&D letters. So there are less people willing to do it, but there are still services out there. You just gotta do your research