Why is the US terrorizing Venezuela?

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How come Venezuela is even in the picture right now?

  • They've got a lot of oil reserves

    Votes: 54 55.7%
  • To gain a foothold in the region (aka: fend off China)

    Votes: 3 3.1%
  • Distraction from the Epstein file contents, ballroom drama, ...

    Votes: 21 21.6%
  • Maduro's a socialist AND popular

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Concerns over drugs (aka: Make America Great Again actually means the continent)

    Votes: 10 10.3%
  • Other, namely...

    Votes: 9 9.3%

  • Total voters
    97
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I feel the same way about most of your points and I'm sure many people do. The problem is whether or not these boats were drug traffickers. If they're just killing people at random, then how are they any less dangerous?

If we normalize a lack of evidence and transparency in our justification of killing people, how will we ensure this is not abused?
i agree its bad to kill civilians in a vacuum space.but Orange turd gov is using drones in attacking some costal regions parts near the usa.its your fault or you stupid gov to warn you.But lets be honest ,a yamaha powered double motors boat speeding in the middle of nowhere is not transporting ibuprofen nor women flashlights.we all know what they are transporting: nose candy.
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I'm already on record saying if they were truly drug traffickers, I don't care if they died. But you and I aren't the government, and they're bound by strict rules. Allowing the obliteration of people they claim to be drug smugglers opens the doors to multiple other type of killings by the government without oversight. There has never been an issue with identifying boats and then seizing them. This is all to terrorize the country, nothing more.

So far they're up to around 29 bombings of boats. Are you positive they're all drug boats? Because as we all know, at one point, there were survivors that were taken and they were let go. Do you let drug smugglers go? No, that's an automatic red flag that they bombed innocent people.

The boats were also not "speeding towards the usa". There's no way those small boats could make that trip. Not nearly enough fuel in those little things.
Did any gov released any victim manifest or list? I haven't seen them yet. I will look into it. But if in these 29 boats there was 2 civilian boats, that's unfortunately collateral.

As for the poll ,i see alot of uneducated people about iraq war.USA did gain zero from the supposedely stealable iraq oil,that war was a disaster for everyone.Million people died,trillions of dollars lost for the USA,only winner were low life bush,cheney and all the waste of oxygen republican from bush administration.BTW USA is the 5th buyer of Iraq oil ,they dont represent 10 percent .China,India,South Korea and UAE are the top buyers.The only winners were arm dealers company.Poor american soldiers came in coffin or with PTSD.Ramsfield and bush bought villas and resorts.And most countries hates them till this day.
So the bullshit Venezuela oil conspiracy point is moot at best.
The USA cannot "steal" oil,they can only buy it at market price.So conspirationist need to stop these oil BS.the world is going Electrical and solar/wind.Hoarding nerd that is called Venezuela did nothing with it useless oil.Saudi Arabia is one of the richest countries out there with less oil.The turd in Venezuala cant even provide food for his citizens.Its a useless Treasure.
 
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Imagine posting anything from truth social and expecting to be taken seriously as a human being
The source is a military video. Imagine rejecting video proof that wasn't created by AI and still trying to deflect, because you don't like the venue.

Yet vomiting lies about people day in and day out, with actually ZERO proof. Talk about a piece of shit human being...
 
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Imagine rejecting video proof that wasn't created by AI and still trying to deflect. Yet vomiting lies about people day in and day out, with actually ZERO proof. Talk about a piece of shit human being...
Because using a site that willingly posted an AI video of Trump with a crown flying a jet fighter to dump shit over protestors should be taken seriously. All your recent post from TS showed was a boat being bombed. There is nothing in it proving that it had drugs on board, only a claim by an ass you so easily stick your nose up into.
 
Because using a site that willingly posted an AI video of Trump with a crown flying a jet fighter to dump shit over protestors should be taken seriously. All your recent post from TS showed was a boat being bombed. There is nothing in it proving that it had drugs on board, only a claim by an ass you so easily stick your nose up into.
lol. Yes, Trump likes to troll (and be real, neither he or his team made it, he just thought it was funny and shared it). Because you lot are so easily triggered. This video, you can clearly see the bags of drugs, and it isn't from AI. It's from the military. I mean, I'd gladly link to it on any of your left-leaning bullshit sites that would show it, but none of them will. It fucks with your false narrative.

Do you automatically dismiss news posted on X as well, because Musk owns it and is now a bad man too? CBS had no problem linking to it:
 
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Poorly regulated capitalism is the overall cause of things getting worse. The people at the top have been chipping away at workers rights, workers salaries, deregulating anything to do with finances, taking huge risks on short-term profits, union busting, and pushing for working all hours of the day. It's the eventual end-goal of capitalism. The rich are still getting richer, and the rest of the people? Screw e'm! Elon now worth over 600 billion. Trump making 1.5 billion in less than a year. That isn't normal.

You know what would make things look less bleak in the US? A strong safety net. Too bad they've been chipping away at that too.
The nazis also wanted a strong safety net. The difference is, for them it might have actually worked, because they euthanised anyone who might be a drain on it. And while i don't support that, you can't have advocating free healthcare for illegals either.
 
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I thought Sweden, Finland, Denmark and Iceland are more of compassionate capitalism that use socialist ideas.

Government regulations are social policies.
 
Yet vomiting lies about people day in and day out, with actually ZERO proof. Talk about a piece of shit human being...
Coming from the guy who believed the ms13 tattoo photoshop right you're in no position to claim others are lying. Let the people with critical thinking skills discuss this and you can hush up.

you can't have advocating free healthcare for illegals either.
This has been debunked numerous times. There's nothing we can do with people like this when they continue to believe and repeat the lies.
 
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lol. Yes, Trump likes to troll (and be real, neither he or his team made it, he just thought it was funny and shared it). Because you lot are so easily triggered. This video, you can clearly see the bags of drugs, and it isn't from AI. It's from the military. I mean, I'd gladly link to it on any of your left-leaning bullshit sites that would show it, but none of them will. It fucks with your false narrative.

Do you automatically dismiss news posted on X as well, because Musk owns it and is now a bad man too? CBS had no problem linking to it:

Jesus christ, the swabbie creeper is still going at this!? You don't seem to understand the basics here.

The bags could have a big label on the side of them saying "DRUGS, DON'T BOMB", and the military STILL couldn't bomb them into oblivion. That's the very basics of international human rights law.

Stick to creeping on the net, that's more your lane.
 
It's all about getting at Venezuela for its oil and other resources. I mean, you've got to be a complete moron to think they are bombing ships for supposed drug trafficking to the US when Trump pardoned a big time drug trafficker.
 
Jesus christ, the swabbie creeper is still going at this!? You don't seem to understand the basics here.

The bags could have a big label on the side of them saying "DRUGS, DON'T BOMB", and the military STILL couldn't bomb them into oblivion. That's the very basics of international human rights law.

Stick to creeping on the net, that's more your lane.
LOL... Who's the one one creeping the net, you fucking imbecile? Trying to find accounts that you think belong to me, pretending to be offended by pics you find and posting them here (saving them to your own hard drive first).

If mods were worth a shit, they'd ban you just for attempting to dox me. It is a crime that comes with prison time ffs, whether or not you actually succeeded. You're a loser in the first degree, and you don't even have 1 fucking clue what a swabbie is. I'm a Chief.
 
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LOL... Who's the one one creeping the net, you fucking imbecile? Trying to find accounts that you think belong to me, pretending to be offended by pics you find and posting them here (saving them to your own hard drive first).
The only reason I looked up your username was when you said you have no history of badmouthing Biden. It took such a simple search to be proven wrong. Unfortunately for me, it opened the floodgates to you being a creepy simp all over the net. That level of thirst isn't normal for a family man, so that makes me happy knowing there's a good chance you'll be alone on Christmas.
you don't even have 1 fucking clue what a swabbie is. I'm a Chief.
Sure thing there, swabbie. Honestly, I'm not sure if I should call you a swabbie or "chief" now. Both sound like they're meant for a child. "Good job there, chief!". There's more vomit for you to clean up on the deck, you desperate tool.

Btw, also telling that you completely ignored the point I made about the topic of this thread. When you don't have the facts on your side, you prefer to feebly attack. Pitiful.
 
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LOL... Who's the one one creeping the net, you fucking imbecile? Trying to find accounts that you think belong to me, pretending to be offended by pics you find and posting them here (saving them to your own hard drive first).

If mods were worth a shit, they'd ban you just for attempting to dox me. It is a crime that comes with prison time ffs, whether or not you actually succeeded.
You have no fucking clue what doxxing is. Posting something you said on another website isn't doxxing. None of this shit is personally identifiable information. Nobody is posting your name, your address, or your IP. They're not selling your data, and they're not threatening you. The fact that you think someone should go to jail for finding your tumblr account is pathetic. No wonder you're a fascist.

Hey, you know what's ACTUALLY illegal and ACTUALLY carries prison time? Piracy, which you've admitted to on multiple occasions.
So... yes, I pirate, but I actually do purchase the games that I really intend to play. I don't think I've completed a single game that I've pirated. The most I've played <a pirated game> on a 3DS is a Japanese game, and who's fault is that? Nintendo's. If it weren't for the stupid region lock, I would buy that game too.
Curious: how are you in the military despite admitting to a felony? Even if you were never arrested for it, you're required by law to disclose incidents to your recruiter, so did you? I doubt it. I wonder if they'd be interested to know.
You're a loser in the first degree, and you don't even have 1 fucking clue what a swabbie is. I'm a Chief.
You're a chief petty officer, and you spend your time arguing with strangers on a forum? Billions of taxpayer dollars well-spent. More like the chief of being petty.
 
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Hey, you know what's ACTUALLY illegal and ACTUALLY carries prison time? Piracy, which you've admitted to on multiple occasions.
As much as I want to agree with everything you said. I do have one criticism with what you stated here.

The only reason I am pointing this out is some software unfortunately now adays requires piracy. Mostly because a company wanted to switch to a subscription model, and attempt to force fuck the buyer. Or in the case scenario some car companies get the funny idea to try to put a subscription for heated seats again when it's already built in the damn car.
In other words, I find this as a weaker argument. (not because it's wrong. Piracy is after all illegal. On that line of logic you are correct. Just, the nuance in my opinion is just too loud to ignore.)


Personally, to fix this problem, at least regarding things that really shouldn't be a subscription but is being turned into one anyways. Honestly I think there should be some sort of governing body that is responsible for regulating subscriptions or checking on companies, since it's just getting ridiculously out of hand.


Everything else is more or less spot on.
 
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As much as I want to agree with everything you said. I do have one criticism with what you stated here.

The only reason I am pointing this out is some software unfortunately now adays requires piracy. Mostly because a company wanted to switch to a subscription model, and attempt to force fuck the buyer. Or in the case scenario some car companies get the funny idea to try to put a subscription for heated seats again when it's already built in the damn car.
In other words, I find this as a weaker argument. (not because it's wrong. Piracy is after all illegal. On that line of logic you are correct. Just, the nuance in my opinion is just too loud to ignore.)


Personally, to fix this problem, genuinely I think there should be some sort of governing body that is responsible for regulating subscriptions or checking on companies, since it's just getting ridiculously out of hand.


Everything else is more or less spot on.
I know this is off-topic, but honestly, if what's being referred to is going from Nintendo's VC to NSO, I'd say it wasn't specifically to fuck the buyer. VC is a great idea that consumers didn't care for, as shown by sales numbers. Top item was SMB3 at only around 1 million units sold since VC started back in the Wii days. The top 10 games were pretty much from Nintendo with stark drops in sales going down the list. It simply wasn't profitable for 3rd-parties because they were being left in the metaphoric dust by Nintendo's own titles that in of themselves weren't doing all that well to begin with. Sega was one of the first to drop out of VC by not continuing with Wii U VC. While folks are bitter about the switch to subscription-based NSO for retro games, it did give some 3rd-parties a reason to jump back in, mainly because they can actually benefit from it even if nobody would have bought their games individually.
 
I know this is off-topic, but honestly, if what's being referred to is going from Nintendo's VC to NSO, I'd say it wasn't specifically to fuck the buyer.
Also off topic on my part. I actually wasn't exactly referring to that. I was thinking of two different pieces of software. One was for home security (can't pull it directly off the top of my head). Which was advertised as a "pay it, you keep it"
But, the company changed hands, forced a online software update to the connected devices, that converted every single device to requiring a subscription... That you paid for... That was literally working just fine without a subscription.

The other was how adobe went from pay once for a perpetual license. But over time, switched to subscription based model, and depending on the age of the software and if you need to reinstall it. You are effectively going to have to pirate it to get it back up and working.

know this is off-topic, but honestly, if what's being referred to is going from Nintendo's VC to NSO, I'd say it wasn't specifically to fuck the buyer.
To be clear, this does and still deeply bugs me, and I wished Nintendo would offer them as something you can pay to keep per game. I don't mind the subscription model for older games existing like Nintendo has it. I have an issue with it because it's the only option.

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Supper off topic. But I feel like if Nintendo changed their model around for paid stuff, they could make it work really well.


Separate the emulator and roms. Instead, you pay for the rom ("permanent" license , carries from console to console)
What you pay for per console, is the emulator. I personally believe that would be a better way of handling things. People aren't rebuying the same game outright again from platform to platform. But Nintendo can recoup costs on the development of their emulator with a flat price from console to console.

Final edit: to be clear this isn't all encompassing. 3rd parties would still be rough to work with especially if we're dealing with another golden eye. I just don't like complaing about something without giving any form of solution.
 
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As much as I want to agree with everything you said. I do have one criticism with what you stated here.

The only reason I am pointing this out is some software unfortunately now adays requires piracy. Mostly because a company wanted to switch to a subscription model, and attempt to force fuck the buyer. Or in the case scenario some car companies get the funny idea to try to put a subscription for heated seats again when it's already built in the damn car.
In other words, I find this as a weaker argument. (not because it's wrong. Piracy is after all illegal. On that line of logic you are correct. Just, the nuance in my opinion is just too loud to ignore.)
The point isn't that piracy is immoral or that it isn't justifiable. The point is it's hypocritical to call for someone to get arrested for something that is perfectly legal, when it is very much illegal to join the military if you've committed a felony (unless you clear it with your recruitment officer first).
 
The point isn't that piracy is immoral or that it isn't justifiable. The point is it's hypocritical to call for someone to get arrested for something that is perfectly legal, when it is very much illegal to join the military if you've committed a felony (unless you clear it with your recruitment officer first).
No, you are right on that. I just feel like using piracy, specifically for this argument, creates a weaker point than intended, but that's my opinion.

Calling out the hypocrisy on that is fine.
 
The only reason I looked up your username was when you said you have no history of badmouthing Biden. It took such a simple search to be proven wrong. Unfortunately for me, it opened the floodgates to you being a creepy simp all over the net. That level of thirst isn't normal for a family man, so that makes me happy knowing there's a good chance you'll be alone on Christmas.

Sure thing there, swabbie. Honestly, I'm not sure if I should call you a swabbie or "chief" now. Both sound like they're meant for a child. "Good job there, chief!". There's more vomit for you to clean up on the deck, you desperate tool.

Btw, also telling that you completely ignored the point I made about the topic of this thread. When you don't have the facts on your side, you prefer to feebly attack. Pitiful.
You think you proved me wrong? LoL. Been married 26 years tomorrow, thanks. Japanese wife. Neither that, nor my Navy affiliation has ever been kept secret here. And you found exactly zero of my accounts around the 'net, but nice try. If you had, you wouldn't even mention being alone, considering my avatar in various places is me with my wife.

Be sure to let me know when there is news of us actually taking oil from them (blocking the export doesn't count, we aren't taking it). You probably say/said the same about Iraq. We didn't take it from there either (yes, I know a couple of companies got contracts, but they aren't taking it).
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You have no fucking clue what doxxing is. Posting something you said on another website isn't doxxing. None of this shit is personally identifiable information. Nobody is posting your name, your address, or your IP. They're not selling your data, and they're not threatening you. The fact that you think someone should go to jail for finding your tumblr account is pathetic. No wonder you're a fascist.

Hey, you know what's ACTUALLY illegal and ACTUALLY carries prison time? Piracy, which you've admitted to on multiple occasions.

Curious: how are you in the military despite admitting to a felony? Even if you were never arrested for it, you're required by law to disclose incidents to your recruiter, so did you? I doubt it. I wonder if they'd be interested to know.

You're a chief petty officer, and you spend your time arguing with strangers on a forum? Billions of taxpayer dollars well-spent. More like the chief of being petty.
You may want to review harassment laws in all 50 states. What Tim was doing falls into the definition. You know what else is illegal? Slander and Libel. Every one of you have called Trump a rapist. ABC had to pay $15million to his campaign and $1Million to his lawyers for that shit. Every one of you also call him a pedophile. Still zero proof. How are the Clinton files coming along?

Nobody has ever been charged with a felony for downloading roms. Those are civil cases. Felonies are people who distribute them via rom sites or whatever. Nice try though.

Lol... billions of dollars. Been retired for years now. Still deploy as a contractor. Good luck "finding my recruiter".
 
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