Why did I bother with A9LH?

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  1. Robfozz
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    So I went through the hassle of installing A9LH on my N3DS. What was the point of this again? Besides faster boot ups, what benefits are there? Just struggling to justify the amount of time I spent getting it to work when my emuNAND cfw worked just fine.
     
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    faster and perfect bootrate, and brick protection. you really should've known this before you started.
     
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    The big one for me is that DSi games (and GBA, but I don't really use that) will just work without having to install them to both sysnand and emunand.

    Not to mention you can update your sysnand to the latest update while keeping a 10.3 emunand for use with NTR. Since NTR is no longer being updated, once Ninty releases an update that breaks using the 10.2 firmware.bin you won't be able to use NTR at all.
     
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    Brick protection, true coldbooting, being able to use sysNAND and thus eliminating the need for an emuNAND, which clears space on the SD card.
     
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    • the ability to stop using emu/rednand and instead use sysnand (this means no more double installing DSi/GBA!)
    • FIRM write protection prevents updates from ever removing arm9loaderhax
    • "brick protection" because you can start Decrypt9/GodMode9/etc. before the operating system
    • 100% boot rate
    • bragging rights? boot animations? :P
     
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    Faster and more reliable boots are the practical purpose of A9LH. You also get brick protection, and you get update protection if you're using Luma3DS in conjunction with A9LH.
     
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    rxTools worked fine for me on my 9.2 o3DS, but A9LH changed all that. All the reasons people gave before me here are why I made the change.
     
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    Is there a reason I would want update protection? Wouldn't it not matter if I updated on a CFW?
     
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    Sometimes updating can screw up and update your sysNAND. It's rare for it to happen if you update correctly but it does happen.
     
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    how would it "screw up"? it wouldn't overwrite the FIRM partitions but how would it be any different than updating using emunand/etc before?
     
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    I dunno, I've heard of some people updating their emuNAND and also having sysNAND updated. That was quite a while ago, though, and I dunno how common that is now.
     
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    ok but that isn't anything special to a9lh, it is just that dsiware and gba games only play on emunand if you have them installed no both sysnand and emunand.
    if you use a9lh and want to play these games in emunand, you still need to install them twice.
    what you are talking about is just using cfw on sysnand, but that's not new and not limited to a9lh :)
    (you might understand this, maybe not, i just want to make sure people don't get confused)
     
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    well when you're using sysnand only, is that really an issue anymore? :P

    I also don't understand how that's possible when you're in emunand, since you can't really touch sysnand when in emunand(even if they are "linked"). but what do I know?
     
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    Without A9LH, you lose access to CFW if your sysNAND accidentally gets updated. With A9LH+Luma3DS, it doesn't matter if your sysNAND gets updated because you will still have A9LH. In fact, plenty of people prefer to be on the latest sysNAND+A9LH+Luma3DS. It's like having a permanent entrypoint as long as you don't screw with A9LH. The same concept also means A9LH functions as a layer of brick-protection. If you do something unsavory to your sysNAND, you can always use A9LH to fix it and/or restore a sysNAND backup.
     
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    Sorry, but want do you mean when you say: ntr doesnt work anymore??

    I have a new 3ds with luma3ds+a9lh in 11.0 sysnand
    And ntr works normally, cheats, real time save, even streamming to pc

    Maybe i understood wrong what you say
    Can you clarify to me??
     
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    To have a (for all practical purposes) permanent cfw that you don't need to think about. No need to worry about screwing it up from messing with your system's theme, nor any worry of having to run it every time.
     
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    Yes, it works now but only because Ninty's 11.0 update is still compatible with using the 10.2 firmware.bin. When 11.1 comes out most likely they will update the system menu and other modules to require 11.0/11.1 nfirm and thus NTR won't work anymore after said update. That will also break downgrading via hardmod as well.
     
  18. driverdis

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    well, I think this whole thread is pointless as the A9LH install is done and no amount of contemplating changes that fact. Just go on and enjoy the benefits A9LH has to offer.
     
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    I don't know if he wanted to keep complaining until someone gave him instructions on how to remove a9lh then you know complaining would have done something . . . just saying
     
  20. TheCyberQuake

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    • Faster boot time compared to menuhax + CFW/emuNAND
    • 100% boot rate: No more having to hard shut down the 3ds and turning it back on
    • Brick protection: Ability to boot Decrypt9/Hourglass9/GodMode9 before rest of NAND boots
    • Ability to use purely sysNAND CFW, saving SD space and time
    • Access to future Arm9 homebrew
    • Custom boot images/animations
    Seriously, it's already been done. So why complain about it now? You should have researched and known full and well going in that it was going to take several hours to complete. Complaining now won't make the fact that you spent a few hours doing this go away. So why not just enjoy the fact that your 3ds is now superior than the standard 3ds user's and move on.
     
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