Hacking Why add anti-piracy measures to Devolution ?

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Asking tueidj to do anything is a futile, wasted effort. I at least can wait for nintendont as I still have a wii with GC ports, but for those with a family wii, I believe the best course of action would be to check if changing a wiimote's ID is possible (or just buy a wii u and get a ps3 controller). Tueidj calls it AP, I call it DRM.
 
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I've always been curious about this for a while. If Dios Mios can run Gamecube iso's without all the AP stuff, why is it important to break Devolotion to run them? Whats the difference between Devo and Dios Mios?
 
I've always been curious about this for a while. If Dios Mios can run Gamecube iso's without all the AP stuff, why is it important to break Devolotion to run them? Whats the difference between Devo and Dios Mios?

Dios Mios isn't compatible with all hard drives, DM runs in GC mode while Devo runs in Wii mode. Devo has classic controller and Wii U pro controller support, and audio streaming.
 
Dios Mios isn't compatible with all hard drives, DM runs in GC mode while Devo runs in Wii mode. Devo has classic controller and Wii U pro controller support, and audio streaming.

So that little bit of difference is enough of a hindrance for your GameCube enjoyment? Really?

Look, I'm not here to step on toes, I just don't see the reason to go through all of this when there's an alternative. Dios Mios have never let me down except for Mystic Heroes and I can live without playing that on iso, And audio streaming? I'll admit when I dumped my copy of Starfox Adv. and they didn't talk, I was a little bummed, and then I realized I can either turn on subtitles or get a real GC and play it there, OR accept the fact that I can't play that 1 out 1000 GC games thats out there.

I don't want to sound like a Heel here, but between the Retroarch stuff that went down and this, I think people around here are getting way too greedy and way too picky for a bunch of freeware homebrew. Devo does its thing for certain people and Dios mios works for the alternative. If Devo doesn't work for you (broken wii drives, pirate iso's, etc.) then you use Dios mios, If that don't work, then you go a GameCube. If THAT don't work, then your just not meant to play GC games and needs to accept that. I'm sorry.
 
So that little bit of difference is enough of a hindrance for your GameCube enjoyment? Really?
Yes, when voices and music don't play on one system but play on another, people tend to consider the first system the inferior choice for enjoying the game.

Tune in next time for tomorrow's edition of Fucking Duh™, starring Rydian!
 
Yes, when voices and music don't play on one system but play on another, people tend to consider the first system the inferior choice for enjoying the game.

Tune in next time for tomorrow's edition of Fucking Duh™, starring Rydian!

Then buy a real GameCube then....
 
But the Wii has already proven itself capable of loading these things without an issue, which is why it's being worked on.

But do you really believe that someone will finally crack the AP on Devo? If they do, could they even be able to release it here, against the author's wishes?
 
But do you really believe that someone will finally crack the AP on Devo? If they do, could they even be able to release it here, against the author's wishes?
From Devolution's main thread:
Two months later than expected but the first public release is finally ready!
Future purpose of this thread
- Notification of updates/new releases
- Reporting of bugs (with logs!)
- Queries about the provided source code (within reason)
- Not discussion of the "anti-piracy" (leave the dead horse alone already)
- Not discussion of how to "crack" Devolution - feel free to discuss it elsewhere but keep this thread clean.
Assuming it ever gets publicly cracked or workarounds are found, I see no reason it shouldn't be released here. And if it does get taken down here, who's to say it wont be reuploaded somewhere else?
 
But do you really believe that someone will finally crack the AP on Devo? If they do, could they even be able to release it here, against the author's wishes?
Well it's not just the AP on devolution, but crediar's making Nintendont, the spiritual successor to DIOS MIOS, which is planned to support audio streaming.
 
My question is... When it's a company that adds AP... People are up in arms... But when it's a person. "Oh.. Well he made it his way.... YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT!"
 
My question is... When it's a company that adds AP... People are up in arms... But when it's a person. "Oh.. Well he made it his way.... YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT!"
Two differences.

1 - This is not a paid product. There is no such thing as a customer.

2 - One-time disc insertion for 'installation' has been a requirement everywhere, even on PCs for like 20 years. It's not what people get up in arms about on other platforms. It's things like always-online and phone-home checks that people complain about.
 
Two differences.

1 - This is not a paid product. There is no such thing as a customer.

2 - One-time disc insertion for 'installation' has been a requirement everywhere, even on PCs for like 20 years. It's not what people get up in arms about on other platforms. It's things like always-online and phone-home checks that people complain about.
Personally, I dislike all forms of DRM. I want to be able to future proof my software and be able to easily transfer it to another system or storage medium without having to worry about hardware failure of certain components. (with the new devo update, its akin to not being able to play games on a PC if a mouse dies or if a different mouse is used.)
 
You guys do know that the new version of Devolution uses a different method of storing verification, right? It's based off some form of a Wii remote's ID, meaning you just need a matching Wii Remote to play the Gamecube games. If someone can determine where that is, somehow hack it to a different remote and test it, we could have a cracked version of Devolution in little time (Assuming a few days is little time). I just don't know how to decompile and hack or search for IDs in a hex editor.
 
Personally, I dislike all forms of DRM. I want to be able to future proof my software and be able to easily transfer it to another system or storage medium without having to worry about hardware failure of certain components. (with the new devo update, its akin to not being able to play games on a PC if a mouse dies or if a different mouse is used.)
The difference is that Devolution doesn't prevent you from doing that. You can backup and play your games as much as you'd want, but you won't play them with Devolution unless they're confirmed to be legit copies.
 
The difference is that Devolution doesn't prevent you from doing that. You can backup and play your games as much as you'd want, but you won't play them with Devolution unless they're confirmed to be legit copies.
And remember, discs are an infallible form of media that cannot be damaged to the point of becoming unreadable by anything.
 
And remember, discs are an infallible form of media that cannot be damaged to the point of becoming unreadable by anything.
That's not what I'm saying. I'm perfectly aware that optical media has a tendency to fail over time. But Devolution in itself does not prevent you from making backups of your games in any kind of way. You might not be able to use them in Devolution, but that is far from the only way to play them.
 

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