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offtopic84 said:
JPH said:
sinkhead said:
Hitto said:
Cheer up! You're still lonely nerds!
But here's the thing, I'm happy enough without drugs, my life is good, why do I need extra substances?

If you're life is "bad", smoking weed/cigarettes really kind of soothes you out (how it is for me).

You mean, makes you content with your shitty situation?

Not necessarily. But it does make you feel relaxed, lightheaded, etc

Kind of like temporarily escaping whatever troubles you're currently having in life.
 
Never been that interested in it really. People around me can do what they like, but I'm fine without it. I'm a very calm laid back person anyway so even if things got bad I doubt I'd need it, I know a million other things that can cheer me up.
 
Did it twice last year.
First time is the worst time, as stated by everyone that was around me.
Your body just hypes itself up so much you don't get anything.
The second time however, your body assumes that nothing's going to happen, just like last time. Then...
BAM!
It feels so much more...
Drug-like.
Yes, I'm sure that they weren't from two different strengths of weed.
From my experience:
Over-rated.
I pretty much lolled at everything, but I knew everything I laughed at wasn't that funny.
I have a perfect memory of what happened that night.
Weed is not going to kill me, or turn me into a junkie anytime soon.
I think I will try it again, sometime within the next seven years...
 
mthrnite said:
gratefulbuddy said:
Also, I didn't think there were so many right-wingers here.
I don't recall anyone stating political views, maybe I missed it, or maybe the epithet you meant to use was "squares".
No, I said what I meant: "advocating a conservative or reactionary position"(Random House dictionary 2006) "Conforming with or conformable to justice, law, or morality"(American Heritage Dictionary 2006). Throughout this discussion, several have cited rumor and misinformation as it was fact. The supposed "Gateway" effect (weed leads to harder stuff) many have claimed has never received any credible backing. Also this "smoke weed and your life goes down the toilet in an out of control spiral of misery and loneliness" attitude that some have displayed is very reactionary and completely unprovable.
 
gratefulbuddy said:
mthrnite said:
gratefulbuddy said:
Also, I didn't think there were so many right-wingers here.
I don't recall anyone stating political views, maybe I missed it, or maybe the epithet you meant to use was "squares".
No, I said what I meant: "advocating a conservative or reactionary position"(Random House dictionary 2006) "Conforming with or conformable to justice, law, or morality"(American Heritage Dictionary 2006). Throughout this discussion, several have cited rumor and misinformation as it was fact. The supposed "Gateway" effect (weed leads to harder stuff) many have claimed has never received any credible backing. Also this "smoke weed and your life goes down the toilet in an out of control spiral of misery and loneliness" attitude that some have displayed is very reactionary and completely unprovable.

I love my weed as much as the next Chonger but I have to say that I've personally seen weed lead people to stronger substances. Mostly because they buy from drug dealers rather than pot dealers and those dealers are looking to expand their business so they try to convince as many people as possible to buy as much as possible. It's not so much the weed but the peer pressure that causes it to be a "gateway" drug.

I can also say from first hand experience (seeing it happen to friends) that certain peoples brain chemistry just can not cope with the introduction of THC into the mix. I've met people who become so paranoid from a couple of puffs that they're sure that every noise they hear outside is someone coming for them or they're certain that people are watching them through the cracks in the curtains. Pot affects people in different ways.

The same can be said about alcohol though. I know it doesn't do my personality any good, I'm naturally an aggressive person (I work hard on not being one though! Well now I'm older anyway!
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It all depends on your brain chemistry, altough that really goes for the introduction of any chemical into your brain. My gateway drug was Ritalin! lol
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acid can't be smoked. whoever said that
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i smoked weed for like 2 years, crazy shit ($50 an 1/8, looked white with orange hairs and sometimes blue leaves) and then all the sudden it just gave me anxiety/panic attacks so i quit. it's bad for your lungs also. emphysema isn't something i would want to experience. stay away.
 
Weed is great fun and totally safe as long as you keep it to occasional use. TOTALLY SAFE!! (occasional use
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When you start smoking a few times a week it starts making you lazy and such. It can also cause anxiety problems if you're smoking all the time like mthr said.

I was a daily smoker for a long time but once I quit I returned to my normal pre-stoner state. Smoking daily won't mess things up for a while but there comes a point I notice most people hit where they experience a panic attack or have some anxiety problems and getting stoned is never quite the same after that.

Smoking lots and lots of weed probably won't fux0rz u upz hard like some people think. It'll make you really dopey and you just sit there and watch the world move by while you're in your hazy bubble.

As far as I've read most chronic pot smokers go back to pretty much their original state after abstaining for a few weeks. So it won't mess up your brain or anything as long as you don't have schizophrenia.

Alcohol can mess you up so much more than pot. SO MUCH MORE!!111 true

VVoltz or anyone else thinking of trying it - make sure you're with friends you trust just in case you feel a little uneasy.

Me - I won't touch pot again but that doesn't mean I think other people shouldn't. I totally abused the drug and smoked way too much, I had some great times but it wasn't worth it in the end when I was just a zombie. As I mentioned above one good thing about pot is the effects are almost* completely reversible IME.

Well done for all the people who quit once they realized it was impacting on their lives
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It's not easy when you've got such a huge habit like that.
 
"The same can be said about alcohol though. I know it doesn't do my personality any good, I'm naturally an aggressive person (I work hard on not being one though! Well now I'm older anyway! ) so it just increases it 10-fold. Pot on the other hands stops me being so aggressive, but I know people who are affected by alcohol the same way I'm affected by pot."


yup, i agree...couldnt have said it better
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It's legal where I live right now so I don't really have to be afraid of buying the wrong stuff. It has to conform to some healthstandards and all. I'm not a huge fan though, smoke it maybe..2-3 times a year and always with my girlfriend. Just for fun, kind of like going out and drinking..only then weed instead of alcohol. I find that weed combines really really well with absinth. Alcohol and weed make me down, alcohol and absinth make me paranoid but weed and absinth make me go 'wheee' at all the pretty colours.
 
gratefulbuddy said:
veho said:
Look, you seem to have an unusually high opinion of the intelligence of the average guy in the street. I did, but after reading all your economically impractical ways to rip people off, I have changed my mind.
iTech, is that you?

I'll disregard your thinly veiled insult and jump straight to the point. You are a troll. Instead of disproving any of my statements, you avoid them entirely by breaking off into mindless tangents that assault the obviously hyperbolic exaggerations I use to illustrate a point, because they clash with some anally retentive technicality you seem to have picked up in a several decades old documentary. Of course, no counterargument is given other than numerous, not really subtle hints at a vast experience in drug trafficking (and possibly a mysterious past), aimed at giving your claims gravitas, since valid arguments aren't available. Tell me, do you have any actual proof to deny my claims, or is not being to grasp any meaning of a text other than the exact literal one the only reason you think them to be false? Is the world of metaphor, allegory and simile entirely lost on you?

Now before any more anal retentive nitpicking and clinging at straws on your end, I'll recapitulate your points that you've stated through vigorous denial of the exact opposites that I brought forth.
[*]Street drugs are 100% pure and safe of any additives because additives "wouldn't be feasible"; and that is because[*]in order to give a beginner the giggles you need to lace one joint (of pure, clean weed, of course) with one whole hit of heroin, three cow's worth of Ketamine, and a ladle of PCP. [*]Any concentration of weed and additives lower than that, i.e. one that would make you a profit, would be too weak for an infant to get cross-eyed, let alone to give a hardened first-timer a five-minute high. [*]But it's okay, because there are no beginners out there, and everyone and their grandmother can tell if the weed they got gave them the right kind of high that weed is supposed to give. You know, based on their rich (if nonexistent) experience. [*]Of course, you know all that because of your detailed knowledge of current drug prices, as well as exact amounts and tolerances to determine the effect a same money's worth of two given drugs would have on an individual. [*]When it comes to LSD, nothing has changed since Woodstock. [*]There is only one standard for the concentration of LSD used everywhere in the world, and is determined in micrograms per square inch.[*]It is impossible to sell ordinary, drugless blotting paper as LSD, because despite no actual visible difference from any fool could guess whether the paper is saturated with acid or not at ten paces. [*]People fall for the Nigerian bank scam, the PayPal order confirmation scam, order Viagra and magic slimming pills online, but when it comes to drugs, everyone is an expert and nobody can be fooled.Deny it all you want, these are your claims, since you won't accept (better yet, you try to make fun of) the opposite. And no invoking any "gray area"; you waived the right to a gray area when you tried to disprove mthr by citing not one but two dictionaries, unable to accept the wildly metaphorical term "square" as a valid expression.

Now, look up "hyperbole" in a dictionary somewhere, and learn the difference between them and literal meaning. I notice you clinging to stamps in my obviously exaggerated examples a little too tightly. How about you try to grasp the knob of my gist instead of analyzing noun by noun, because obviously you fail to see the forest for all the trees in your way.

Now, will you grace us with more broomstick-up-the-ass assaults on random expressions in this post you find too colourful to your liking, or will you admit that "I don't like the phrase he used" isn't valid argument?



Now, back on topic: VVoltz, if you want to try pot, do. Just make sure you're not doing it for the wrong reasons.

QUOTE(JPH @ Mar 19 2008, 08:47 PM)
Kind of like temporarily escaping whatever troubles you're currently having in life.
That's exactly the wrong reason.
 
I would imagine a drug dealer that actually cut WEED for god's sakes would get shot up rather quickly if not at least ratted out. Cutting weed is simply unfeasible unless you are a suicidal jackass
 
dakeyras said:
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QUOTE said:
Kind of like temporarily escaping whatever troubles you're currently having in life.
That's exactly the wrong reason.
No shit, that is the wrong reason to do any kind of drugs, including the more common and popular ones.
Yeah, but people often don't realize that. And that's how they get hooked on stuff. "I'm a social drinker, I "don't" drink to escape my problems, nooo."
 
Okay so I do it once in a while, usually if I can't sleep.

My high consists of an hour or two of me being stupid high, laughing at anything and everything and developing a speech impediment.

Then I go into burnt out mode and fall asleep.

My GF smokes everyday, but shes from a hippie family where to this day her mom smokes aswell, so it has become a family activity and none of them have ever done anything harder. (we are mid 20's I've only smoked randomly for a year or 2, her for the last several, but amazingly she is still sharp as a tak)

Our "guy" who we buy from is a friend who does nothing harder than weed aswell but deals full time. He always wieghs it in front of us, and will always use our mini scale aswell just to make sure.

there is no way to sell half pencil shavings or oregano or whatever. I get our stuff in bud form not pre busted up. So there is no way to pad the bag with fake stuff.

Also, smoking has nothing to do with political views. I know some straight out stoners who are hardcore Conservatives, or theres my GF who is wildly liberal.
 
veho said:
The effect of pot differs from person to person and from variety to variety. It usually just makes me sleepy.

Word of warning: be careful about your sources. The weed you get might be full of pesticides, herbicides, and for that extra kick, laced with acid or heroin or who-knows-what.

I've never once known anybody to lace the weed they sell with either of those. For a start pot is relatively cheap, it's one of the few things that stays around the same costs regardless of inflation. Acid and heroin on the other hand are extremely expensive.

Look at it this way using average UK prices for good quality gear (I don't know costs in the rest of the world, sorry!)

Hash/Weed = £7-10 an eighth of an ounce, £40-50 an ounce, 170-250 a ninebar (nine ounces)
Skunkweed = £20-25 an eighth of an ounce, £100-120 an ounce, £
Acid = £5 a tab, £20 for 5, £80-100 a sheet of 50. (There's good profit in it!) (Liquid acid is alooooot of money)
Ecstacy = £5 a tab, £20-25 for 5, £100-120 for 50.
Heroin = £10 for a tenth of a gram, £90-100 a gram, £1500-1800 an ounce.
Crack = £5/10 rocks.
Coke = £35-50 a gram, £120-150 an eighth of an ounce, £700-750 an ounce.

No self respecting dealer who does it simply for profit is going to lace weed with anything, dumber street level sellers might pack it with oregano or tomato plant leaves but with harder drugs, never.

You can't lace weed with acid because it's just not cost effective, and if you were chop up and use blotters to lace it with then people would notice it was full of chopped up paper.

You can't lace it with Ecstacy because when it burns it stinks like poisonous gas.

You can't lace it with heroin because it's just a total waste of money, why give it away when you can make £100 a gram. Besides which, first time smack chasers get all sick as hell - not a likely scenario to make them return to you.

You can't lace it with crack for the same reasons as ecstacy and some of the reasons of smack. Same goes for coke.

Honestly, weed is very rarely tampered with, and when it is it's with shit look/smellalike herbs and plants - and usually it's only done by junkies looking to burn enough people to get a hit of rock or brown and even the novice pot buyer can spot them! Chemicals on the other hand are a different story and if you plan to get into them then make 100% certain that you're buying them from somebody you absolutely trust - and it's usually best to make sure that who you're buying off also hits their own stash. Although alot of the horror stories you hear about them being cut with rat poison are false, specially when it comes to acid.

I'm not telling people they should rush out, buy a pill and go all Prodigy/The Shamen in the street but if you'e thinking of trying them be safe.
 
here in toronto area and SW ontario, i would honestly say 50% of the population smokes reefer!! and the golden horse shoe is the most productive region in canada!

yes i smoke weed once or twice per week. hash if i can get my hands on it.
 
Sick Wario said:
here in toronto area and SW ontario, i would honestly say 50% of the population smokes reefer!! and the golden horse shoe is the most productive region in canada!

yes i smoke weed once or twice per week. hash if i can get my hands on it.

I'm sorry, but 50% is WAYYY too high.
lol.
pun.
 
VatoLoco said:
"The same can be said about alcohol though. I know it doesn't do my personality any good, I'm naturally an aggressive person (I work hard on not being one though! Well now I'm older anyway! ) so it just increases it 10-fold. Pot on the other hands stops me being so aggressive, but I know people who are affected by alcohol the same way I'm affected by pot."


yup, i agree...couldnt have said it better
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Your user name gives away your violent tendencies!
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Westside said:
I don't want to lose VVoltz.
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You are not gonna lose me buddy, believe me the less thing I need right now is an addiction, I swear that if I try it, it would be a one thing only.

And, thanks to everyone for your opinions, specially veho, he is as wise as usual. =)
 

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