Hacking USBLoaderGX Crashing/freezing with some games

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Hello guys!

I have a problem with USBLoaderGX, the problem is that when i play games it crashes/freezes for me after 5~10 minutes.

Its sooo annoying and the hard drive is new and there is no problem with that. there are games that are crashing and some that are don't.

(For example: Mario Kart, Excite Truck are crashing and Wii Party and Animal Crossing: City Folk don't crash)

i play all my games in IOS 251 because all other IOS's just gives me a black screen. if someone can help me fast i will appreciate it a lot! :)
(I just wanna play games :sad:)
 
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PhPmayan said:
Hello guys!

I have a problem with USBLoaderGX, the problem is that when i play games it crashes/freezes for me after 5~10 minutes.

Its sooo annoying and the hard drive is new and there is no problem with that. there are games that are crashing and some that are don't.

(For example: Mario Kart, Excite Truck are crashing and Wii Party and Animal Crossing: City Folk don't crash)

i play all my games in IOS 251 because all other IOS's just gives me a black screen. if someone can help me fast i will appreciate it a lot! :)
(I just wanna play games :sad:)
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Hello.:)

Finally someone who achieved it,that your Wii Games STARTS at least.:D

Are you sure your Games/ISOs are ok/complete ?
Did you transferred the Games with the WiiBackup Manager from the PC the your Wii ?
Your HDD is formatted with which Format please ?
You are using the latest Release of the USBLoader GX -> v3.0 r1272 ?

And most important,which cIOSes and Bases did you have installed for the Slots 249/250/251 please ?
Maybe a sysCheck is also not a bad Idea:
https://gbatemp.net/threads/posting-a-system-check.300279/

Please check this Points.Good luck.
Thank you.:)
 
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alexander1970 said:
Hello.:)

Finally someone who achieved it,that your Wii Games STARTS at least.:D

Are you sure your Games/ISOs are ok/complete ?
Did you transferred the Games with the WiiBackup Manager from the PC the your Wii ?
Your HDD is formatted with which Format please ?

And most important,which cIOSes and Bases did you have installed for the Slots 249/250/251 please ?
Maybe a sysCheck is also not a bad Idea:
https://gbatemp.net/threads/posting-a-system-check.300279/

Please check this Points.Good luck.
Thank you.:)
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Yes my ISOs are fine, and of course i'm using WiiBackup Manager :)
My HDD format is FAT32 using GUIformat, I don't know how to tell what cIOSes and Bases i have i just followed this guide: https://wii.guide/cios < Hope that helped you < if i have to do a Syscheck just tell me and i will do.
 
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Yes my ISOs are fine, and of course i'm using WiiBackup Manager :)
My HDD format is FAT32 using GUIformat, I don't know how to tell what cIOSes and Bases i have i just followed this guide: https://wii.guide/cios < Hope that helped you < if i have to do a Syscheck just tell me and i will do.
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Thank you.:)

Please use this GBAtemp Manual

https://gbatemp.net/threads/posting-a-system-check.300279/

to achive the sysCheck and post the Result in your next Answer if you be so kind please.

Thank you.:)
 
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Hmm, I thought it might be a HDD sleep issue, but I think Mario kart would be a problematic game.
sleep issue happen on some drive with very low sleep delay, like less than 1minute.

If the drive is not used/read/access regularly, the drive stop spinning and the console never tries to re-init it.
the cIOS has a anti-sleep feature, but the delay could too high.


If it's not a sleep issue, maybe your cIOS is not the best one, for instance using IOS slot251 will probably mean you are using "base58" which is the least compatible IOS base, and will ends in lot of black screen.
The best base is 57, but some drive might have issues initializing at all without "base58". it's often the case with Flashdrives instead of HDD. but you mentioned "hard drive" so I don't think you are using a flashdrive.
 
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alexander1970 said:
Thank you.:)

Please use this GBAtemp Manual

https://gbatemp.net/threads/posting-a-system-check.300279/

to achive the sysCheck and post the Result in your next Answer if you be so kind please.

Thank you.:)
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There: ]
SysCheck HDE v2.4.0 HacksDen Edition by JoostinOnline, Double_A, R2-D2199, and Nano
...runs on IOS58 (rev 6176).

Region: PAL
System Menu 4.3E (v514)
Priiloader installed
Drive date: 07.14.2008
Homebrew Channel 1.1.2 running on IOS58

Hollywood v0x11
Console ID: 91125138
Console Type: Wii
Shop Channel Country: United Kingdom (110)
Boot2 v4
Found 96 titles.
Found 48 IOS on this console. 15 of them are stubs.

IOS3 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS4 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS9 (rev 1034): No Patches
IOS10 (rev 768): Stub
IOS11 (rev 256): Stub
IOS12 (rev 526): No Patches
IOS13 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS14 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS15 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS16 (rev 512): Stub
IOS17 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS20 (rev 256): Stub
IOS21 (rev 1039): No Patches
IOS22 (rev 1294): No Patches
IOS28 (rev 1807): No Patches
IOS30 (rev 2816): Stub
IOS31 (rev 3608): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
IOS33 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS34 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS35 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS36 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS37 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS38 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS40 (rev 3072): Stub
IOS41 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS43 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS45 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS46 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS48 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS50 (rev 5120): Stub
IOS51 (rev 4864): Stub
IOS52 (rev 5888): Stub
IOS53 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS55 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS56 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS57 (rev 5919): No Patches
IOS58 (rev 6176): USB 2.0
IOS60 (rev 6400): Stub
IOS61 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS62 (rev 6430): No Patches
IOS70 (rev 6912): Stub
IOS80 (rev 6944): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS222 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS223 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS249[56] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS250[57] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS251[58] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS254 (rev 65281): BootMii
BC v6
MIOS v10
Report generated on 03/23/2020.

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PhPmayan said:
There: ]
SysCheck HDE v2.4.0 HacksDen Edition by JoostinOnline, Double_A, R2-D2199, and Nano
...runs on IOS58 (rev 6176).

Region: PAL
System Menu 4.3E (v514)
Priiloader installed
Drive date: 07.14.2008
Homebrew Channel 1.1.2 running on IOS58

Hollywood v0x11
Console ID: 91125138
Console Type: Wii
Shop Channel Country: United Kingdom (110)
Boot2 v4
Found 96 titles.
Found 48 IOS on this console. 15 of them are stubs.

IOS3 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS4 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS9 (rev 1034): No Patches
IOS10 (rev 768): Stub
IOS11 (rev 256): Stub
IOS12 (rev 526): No Patches
IOS13 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS14 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS15 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS16 (rev 512): Stub
IOS17 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS20 (rev 256): Stub
IOS21 (rev 1039): No Patches
IOS22 (rev 1294): No Patches
IOS28 (rev 1807): No Patches
IOS30 (rev 2816): Stub
IOS31 (rev 3608): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
IOS33 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS34 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS35 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS36 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS37 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS38 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS40 (rev 3072): Stub
IOS41 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS43 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS45 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS46 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS48 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS50 (rev 5120): Stub
IOS51 (rev 4864): Stub
IOS52 (rev 5888): Stub
IOS53 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS55 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS56 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS57 (rev 5919): No Patches
IOS58 (rev 6176): USB 2.0
IOS60 (rev 6400): Stub
IOS61 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS62 (rev 6430): No Patches
IOS70 (rev 6912): Stub
IOS80 (rev 6944): Trucha Bug, NAND Access
IOS222 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS223 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS249[56] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS250[57] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS251[58] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS254 (rev 65281): BootMii
BC v6
MIOS v10
Report generated on 03/23/2020.

[
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Thank you,your sysCheck looks good.:)

You can change your Settings
IOS249[56] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS250[57] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
to
IOS249[57] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS250[56] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0

like Cyan already suggested.
You can use again the d2xcIOS Installer that you used here: https://wii.guide/cios

You said,your ISO´s and Games are ok.Are your games PAL or NTSC Versions ?
Did you compared the Checksums from your Games with https://www.gametdb.com/Wii/Search ?
(Please search for the Game(s) and on each Site you have the Checksums at the Bottom.)

Hmm, I thought it might be a HDD sleep issue, but I think Mario kart would be a problematic game.
sleep issue happen on some drive with very low sleep delay, like less than 1minute.

If the drive is not used/read/access regularly, the drive stop spinning and the console never tries to re-init it.
the cIOS has a anti-sleep feature, but the delay could too high.
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Of Course also a logic Point.

Which HDD did you have please ? Maybe there is a Tool for it on the Manufacturer´s Hompepage or universal Tools to disable the Sleep Value.For Example for Western Digitald HDDs WDIdleDisable Tool.

Thank you.:)
 
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alexander1970 said:
Thank you,your sysCheck looks good.:)

You can change your Settings
IOS249[56] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS250[57] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
to
IOS249[57] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS250[56] (rev 65535, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0

like Cyan already suggested.
You can use again the d2xcIOS Installer that you used here: https://wii.guide/cios

You said,your ISO´s and Games are ok.Are your games PAL or NTSC Versions ?
Did you compared the Checksums from your Games with https://www.gametdb.com/Wii/Search ?
(Please search for the Game(s) and on each Site you have the Checksums at the Bottom.)


Of Course also a logic Point.

Which HDD did you have please ? Maybe there is a Tool for it on the Manufactor´s Hompepage or universal Tools to disable the Sleep Value.For Example for Western Digitald HDDs WDIdleDisable Tool.

Thank you.:)
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My HDD is Western Digital 500GB, And my games are PAL and NTSC because i have enabled that i can play games from every region. Also how do i change my settings? can it brick my console?
 
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My HDD is Western Digital 500GB, And my games are PAL and NTSC because i have enabled that i can play games from every region. Also how do i change my settings? can it brick my console?
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Thank you.:)

As you did in the Guide as you said on the Beginning of this Conversation:

PhPmayan said:
Yes my ISOs are fine, and of course i'm using WiiBackup Manager :)
My HDD format is FAT32 using GUIformat, I don't know how to tell what cIOSes and Bases i have i just followed this guide: https://wii.guide/cios < Hope that helped you < if i have to do a Syscheck just tell me and i will do.
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You have only change the Bases please:
- instead Base 56 on Slot 249 you should use Base 57

Install249.png

- instead Base 57 on Slot 250 you should use Base 56

Install250.png

Simply opposed.:)

can it brick my console?
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If you followed the Guide you have installed Priiloader and/or BootMii as boot2/as IOS.
So you should have a little Protection.:)

Good Luck
Thank you.:)
 
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alexander1970 said:
Thank you.:)

As you did in the Guide as you said on the Beginning of this Conversation:



You have only change the Bases please:
- instead Base 56 on Slot 249 you should use Base 57

View attachment 200606

- instead Base 57 on Slot 250 you should use Base 56

View attachment 200607

Simply opposed.:)



If you followed the Guide you have installed Priiloader and/or BootMii as boot2/as IOS.
So you should have a little Protection.:)

Good Luck
Thank you.:)
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And if i do that it will not crash again? (if i will do this i will do a NAND backup before that, just in case)
 
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And if i do that it will not crash again? (if i will do this i will do a NAND backup before that, just in case)
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Maybe,but this Setup is the most common and recommended for the USBLoader GX.
Base 57 has better Game compatibility but of course,there are some Games that use/run on other cIOSes....

No,we can give you no Warranty,that you have no Crashes after the Change,but the Chance is maybe good to get rid of it.:D
We also have to trust your Games/ISO´s are ok and good.:)

(if i will do this i will do a NAND backup before that, just in case
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Very,very prospective from you.:yay:
Yes please.
I hope you also did it before you installed the cIOSes (like the Guide recommended).:D

Thank you.:)
 
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Maybe,but this Setup is the most common and recommended for the USBLoader GX.
Base 57 has better Game compatibility but of course,there are some Games that use/run on other cIOSes....

No,we can give you no Warranty,that you have no Crashes after the Change,but the Chance is maybe good to get rid of it.:D
We also have to trust your Games/ISO´s are ok and good.:)



Very,very prospective from you.:yay:
Yes please.
I hope you also did it before you installed the cIOSes (like the Guide recommended).:D

Thank you.:)
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And when i launch the game from USBLoaderGX i have to choose to launch it with IOS 251 or something else?
 
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And when i launch the game from USBLoaderGX i have to choose to launch it with IOS 251 or something else?
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On the PAL Wii 4.3E and USBLoader GX v3.0 r1272 with
IOS249[57] (rev 21, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Zugriff, USB 2.0
IOS250[56] (rev 21, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Zugriff, USB 2.0

Some Games:

- Band Hero NTSC -> 250
- Guitar Hero 5 PAL -> 250
- Guitar Hero - Warriors of Rock PAL -> 250
- Horse Life Adventures NTSC -> 223
- Hotel for Dogs NTSC - > 247
- Hysteria Hospital NTSC -> 247
- My Horse & Me NTSC -> 250
- Petz Horse Club NTSC -> 223
- Petz Horses 2 NTSC -> 223
- Pony and Friends NTSC -> 223
- Singitstar Games -> 222


Thank you.:)
 
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alexander1970 said:
On the PAL Wii 4.3E and USBLoader GX v3.0 r1272 with
IOS249[57] (rev 21, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Zugriff, USB 2.0
IOS250[56] (rev 21, Info: d2x-v10beta52): Trucha Bug, NAND Zugriff, USB 2.0

Some Games:

- Band Hero NTSC -> 250
- Guitar Hero 5 PAL -> 250
- Guitar Hero - Warriors of Rock PAL -> 250
- Horse Life Adventures NTSC -> 223
- Hotel for Dogs NTSC - > 247
- Hysteria Hospital NTSC -> 247
- My Horse & Me NTSC -> 250
- Petz Horse Club NTSC -> 223
- Petz Horses 2 NTSC -> 223
- Pony and Friends NTSC -> 223
- Singitstar Games -> 222


Thank you.:)
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Sorry but i don't understand what you said here.
 
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Ohhh ok, so if games are not working on IOS 249 i just change it to 251?
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Yes,it is worth a try.:)
-249
-250
-251

One of them should always work (except some Games how I wanted to convey to you with my List.:)).

But for the "Mainstream" Games like Mario Kart Wii,Super Mario Galaxy,Super Smash Bros. Brawl,New Super Mario Bros.,Mario Party and so on,it is not necessary,USBLoader GX loads them with the correct Setting.

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Yes,it is worth a try.:)
-249
-250
-251

One of them should always work (except some Games how I wanted to convey to you with my List.:)).

But for the "Mainstream" Games like Mario Kart Wii,Super Mario Galaxy,Super Smash Bros. Brawl,New Super Mario Bros.,Mario Party and so on,it is not necessary,USBLoader GX loads them with the correct Setting.

Thank you.:)
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So if something is not good with USBLoaderGX i can use WiiFlow? i have WiiFlow Lite
 
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So if something is not good with USBLoaderGX i can use WiiFlow? i have WiiFlow Lite
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Yes of course.:D
From "Experiences" I can tell you it is not the badest Idea you have all three Loaders:

- USBLoader GX
- Configurable USBLoader - it maybe helps on some Games when the USBLoader GX can not detect the needed IOS to run the Game.It shows the IOS Number when you start a Game and then you can change it in USBLoder GX.:evil::D
Please use the v70 r78.11 Mod.
- WiiFlow Lite Mod from @fledge68 is an excellent Alternative and can also run Wii Games from SD Card (but not really recommended !!).Please use the latest Version v5.4.2

Thank you.:)
 
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