Hacking USB Loader GX

[RedColoredStars]

Will there's be compatibility improvements to EmuNAND with the next update? Juggling between the NAND and EmuNAND just for a few games is a bit of a pain.

I've never used an emunand on my Wii U. Why not just get rid of it instead of having to juggle?

 

[leejaclane]

I've never used an emunand on my Wii U. Why not just get rid of it instead of having to juggle?

Emunand is useful if you're using the same HDD to play games via Dolphin or on a different console, for example if you're going over to a friend's you can take just the HDD with games and the emunand on it instead of the whole Wii or Wii U, and then you can just play on their homebrewed console or on Dolphin.

It also allows you more space for saves, since the space on a Wii or vWii is rather limited, especially if you have more than a few WiiWare and Virtual Console games installed to the nand.

 

[Error52]

I've never used an emunand on my Wii U. Why not just get rid of it instead of having to juggle?

Because it would be very convenient to have everything on my hard drive instead of having to manage what games are installed on the puny internal storage.

 

[RedColoredStars]

Emunand is useful if you're using the same HDD to play games via Dolphin or on a different console, for example if you're going over to a friend's you can take just the HDD with games and the emunand on it instead of the whole Wii or Wii U, and then you can just play on their homebrewed console or on Dolphin.

Thanks. I have no friends so I guess I don't need an emunand. LOL!

Because it would be very convenient to have everything on my hard drive instead of having to manage what games are installed on the puny internal storage.

That doesn't make a lot of sense considering all of my games are on a hard drive and I have no emunand. Emunand is not a requirement to store or load your games from/on an hdd.

 

[Error52]

Thanks. I have no friends so I guess I don't need an emunand. LOL!



That doesn't make a lot of sense considering all of my games are on a hard drive and I have no emunand. Emunand is not a requirement to store or load your games from/on an hdd.

Is for WiiWare and VC stuff, I believe.

 

[RedColoredStars]

Is for WiiWare and VC stuff, I believe.

Hm. I remember installing both to an external drive using WUP Installer GX2. Maybe I'm wrong. I dunno. lol

 

[XFlak]

Hm. I remember installing both to an external drive using WUP Installer GX2. Maybe I'm wrong. I dunno. lol

That's referring to the WiiU. But wiiware can be installed to the wii real nand in a similar fashion using wads. That being said, and as previously mentioned, u are limited in terms of storage space, so an emulated nand would be needed for wii if u have a lot of content. However u can still just have the games on emulated nand and still have saves directed to the real nand, at least in most cases

 

[Error52]

That's referring to the WiiU. But wiiware can be installed to the wii real nand in a similar fashion using wads. That being said, and as previously mentioned, u are limited in terms of storage space, so an emulated nand would be needed for wii if u have a lot of content. However u can still just have the games on emulated nand and still have saves directed to the real nand, at least in most cases

I've actually been directing my saves to EmuNAND as well, funnily enough. Partly for storage reasons but mostly because I have a Wii U with a Hynix NAND chip, so if that ends up dead and I can't fix it then at least all my Wii saves won't go down with the ship.

There any major drawbacks to this in terms of bugs or potential save corruption? I know it all being attached to a hard drive is still a point of failure itself, granted.

 

[leejaclane]

There any major drawbacks to this in terms of bugs or potential save corruption? I know it all being attached to a hard drive is still a point of failure itself, granted.

Save corruption I'm not familiar with so someone else would have to chime in, but there are certain games that don't play nice with running from emunand and other games that don't play nice with saving to emunand (that includes, apparently, some disc based games, such as Skyward Sword and Metroid Prime 3, including the Trilogy version of Prime 3).

From what I've heard, doing NEEK for the emunand resolves these issues, at least for most games, but I haven't gone to the trouble to set up NEEK yet and I believe it's different between Wii and vWii.

If you're worried about save corruption though, the great thing about an external hard drive is that you can make backups of the data on it pretty easily, so periodically doing that ensures that any unexpected drive failure or data corruption doesn't cost you your progress in any games.

 

[DA88]

I am hoping to get some help.

I homebrewed my Wii a few years ago and have been using USB loader GX to load my Wii and GC games. I wanted to add WiiWare games, so I followed the directions from a video on youtube by Anton Retro. This entailed putting the WAD files on the WAD folder on my HD, dumping the NAND to EmuNAND, and then using EmuNAND Wad Manager to install the contents of the WAD folder from the USB.

I am having some problems. First, all of the channels from my Wii home screen are showing up in the WiiWare tab on USB Loader GX, not just the WiiWare games. Also, most of the WiiWare games don’t load. They just go to a black screen and I have to do a hard reset of my Wii.

What is causing these issues and how do I fix them?

Does dumping the NAND to EmuNand delete anything from the console?

If I delete the EmuNAND from my HD, will I lose game data? If so, how do I put game data back on the NAND?

 

[worm28]

I am hoping to get some help.

I homebrewed my Wii a few years ago and have been using USB loader GX to load my Wii and GC games. I wanted to add WiiWare games, so I followed the directions from a video on youtube by Anton Retro. This entailed putting the WAD files on the WAD folder on my HD, dumping the NAND to EmuNAND, and then using EmuNAND Wad Manager to install the contents of the WAD folder from the USB.

I am having some problems. First, all of the channels from my Wii home screen are showing up in the WiiWare tab on USB Loader GX, not just the WiiWare games. Also, most of the WiiWare games don’t load. They just go to a black screen and I have to do a hard reset of my Wii.

What is causing these issues and how do I fix them?

Does dumping the NAND to EmuNand delete anything from the console?

If I delete the EmuNAND from my HD, will I lose game data? If so, how do I put game data back on the NAND?

I had the same problem dumping the nand with usbloader gx wiiware games would not work try to use a bootmii nand dump and extract it with showmiiwads it worked for me

 

[DA88]

I had the same problem dumping the nand with usbloader gx wiiware games would not work try to use a bootmii nand dump and extract it with showmiiwads it worked for me

Thanks for the response worm28. I will look into bootmii and showmiiwads. Do I need to delete the EmuNAND that I just made before I do a new one with bootmii?

 

[worm28]

Thanks for the response worm28. I will look into bootmii and showmiiwads. Do I need to delete the EmuNAND that I just made before I do a new one with bootmii?

Yes delete the old emunand

 

[DA88]

Yes delete the old emunand

Will all my saved game data be fine?

Also, how do I extract with showmiiwads? Can you point me to a tutorial?

Thanks for your help!

 

[XFlak]

All your saves will still be on the real nand, so don't worry about losing anything from an recently dumped and unused emunand

Showmiiwads is pretty simple to extract a nand, but even simpler is to use modmii, just drag and drop your nand.bin onto modmii.exe and choose extract

 

[Error52]

I am having some problems. First, all of the channels from my Wii home screen are showing up in the WiiWare tab on USB Loader GX, not just the WiiWare games.

So the solution here is to give stars to every game you want to show up (that option appears when you select a game) and then set it so that only games with stars show up (you can set that by selecting the star icon in the top menu on the home screen). You can also make a category to put all your Wii channels in, then hide that category.

Also, most of the WiiWare games don’t load. They just go to a black screen and I have to do a hard reset of my Wii.

EmuNAND compatibility is unfortunately a bit spotty, so that may the reason why. Though I will say, I had a black screen with an out-of-region install of Bomberman Blast (console is PAL, game was US NTSC) and I was able to fix that by selecting the "Force NTSC" option in the game settings. So do with that what you will.

Does dumping the NAND to EmuNand delete anything from the console?

Nope.

If I delete the EmuNAND from my HD, will I lose game data? If so, how do I put game data back on the NAND?

I believe you can copy saves from EmuNAND to the real NAND with Save Game Manager GX, though I haven't done it myself so I'm not sure how.

 

[DA88]

All your saves will still be on the real nand, so don't worry about losing anything from an recently dumped and unused emunand

Showmiiwads is pretty simple to extract a nand, but even simpler is to use modmii, just drag and drop your nand.bin onto modmii.exe and choose extract

XFlak, thanks for helping. I appreciate it.

I am in the process of installing bootmii and my wii is the newer kind that can only install it as an IOS, so I will probably look into priloader later. I am going to install savegame manager gx also. I could only manually back up about half of my games.

After I back up my games, I will work on figuring out how to do the NAND to EmuNAND dump with bootmii. Then I will try to do the extraction. I don't have much coding experience, so I am relying on videos, old websites, and help from people such as yourself.

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So the solution here is to give stars to every game you want to show up (that option appears when you select a game) and then set it so that only games with stars show up (you can set that by selecting the star icon in the top menu on the home screen). You can also make a category to put all your Wii channels in, then hide that category.



EmuNAND compatibility is unfortunately a bit spotty, so that may the reason why. Though I will say, I had a black screen with an out-of-region install of Bomberman Blast (console is PAL, game was US NTSC) and I was able to fix that by selecting the "Force NTSC" option in the game settings. So do with that what you will.



Nope.



I believe you can copy saves from EmuNAND to the real NAND with Save Game Manager GX, though I haven't done it myself so I'm not sure how.

Error 52, thanks for your responses. Thanks for the work-around with the stars. I decided to delete the EmuNAND that I just made since the WiiWare games were not working anyway. I am installing bootmii and savegame manager gx, and then I will do a NAND dump with bootmii followed by a WAD extraction to try and get the WiiWare games working. Thanks for the NTSC tip, I will try that if I have more black screens from the WiiWare games.

 

[Kirby6417]

If anybody can get WiiWare games working on EmuNAND without using NEEK, let me know!

I can get almost all WiiWare games to work on EmuNAND, but I need NEEK for almost all of them. I vaguely recall some maybe working without NEEK but then crashing when I tried to save (Adventure Island: The Beginning was one such game, I think). As a result, I felt safer booting them all via NEEK instead of baiting out save data problems in the future. But there's a part of me that still prefers non-NEEK booting since it's faster.

(If you need help setting up NEEK, I cannot remember how I did it. It was a few years ago.)

 

[DA88]

All your saves will still be on the real nand, so don't worry about losing anything from an recently dumped and unused emunand

Showmiiwads is pretty simple to extract a nand, but even simpler is to use modmii, just drag and drop your nand.bin onto modmii.exe and choose extract

I have a couple more questions. I installed bootmii and during the first start up, it ran a block verification. How do I do a NAND to EmuNAND dump with bootmii? I thought that happened as part of the verification, but when I checked my hardrive there was no nand or nands folder.

Also, I currently have the WiiWare wads in the WAD folder on my hardrive. Do I need to remove these from the hardrive or from the nand so they can be extracted with modmii? I have modmii installed, but I don't currently have a nand.bin (or at least I don't think I do).

There were a few files in my WAD folder before I put the WiiWare games in there. Does that cause problems?

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Ok, I found the nand.bin file. It was on the SD card (duh!). When I drag it onto modmii, I get an error message: "Windows cannot find 'temp.bat'. Make sure you typed the name correctly, and then try again.

How do I resolve this error?

 

[XFlak]

Try a fresh modmii install, make sure it's a simple installation so avoid folders with weird symbols and stuff, just in case

If u keep getting the same error we can troubleshoot together so that if there's a change needed I can bugfix it for the next update.

Alternatively you can use showmiiwads to extract the nand, it's under the options or tools menu. Further, u can use showmiiwads to install WADs to an emunand, doesn't matter where they're saved. Change showmiiwads' view to showmiinand, point it to your emunand, then drag and drop wads onto the window, then whenever you're ready click the button at the bottom (should say install or something like that)