Homebrew TWiLight Menu++ v10.0.0 released, now includes B4DS for all DLDI-enabled cards

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    If you have ever been interested in running Nintendo DS games from your 3DS or DSi without a flashcard then you may have already heard about @Robz8's open-source menu replacement, emulator frontend and backup loader called TWiLight Menu++. However, it looks like the homebrew developer wants old and obsolete flashcard owners to enjoy a piece of the action too, as a new update released just today makes the tool able to launch itself and run commercial NDS ROMs on any DLDI-capable card, even those which never supported backup loading in the first place!

    You've heard that right, TWiLight Menu++ v10.0.0 bumps its included nds-bootstrap version (aka the homebrew back-end used as a loader) to 0.25.2, which now also features B4DS - a variant of the said loader able to run on flashcards as well as homebrew-only devices. The requirements are simple: all your card needs is either a built-in DLDI driver or patch (and, unless yours is very archaic, it likely has one or the other!). This means you are now able to run NDS backups even on devices such as the Datel Games 'n Music, Action Replay DS Media Edition, MAX Media Dock and other similar cards which had no backup loading support whatsoever! But it doesn't stop there: TWiLight Menu++ has been able to autoboot on some cards for a while now, however, this update can make it behave effectively like a kernel replacement, also allowing it to bypass pesky timebombs in the process. B4DS lets you change your system's default language, nds-bootstrap build and different save slots on a per-game basis too, which can prove especially useful if you own an imported DS that doesn't let you select your preferred language or if a game only lets you use one save file and you share your console with somebody else.

    However, there is a catch: B4DS is still rather new and doesn't support many commercial ROMs yet. Some popular games are known to work, like Mario Party DS, Kirby Super Star Ultra, Pokèmon DP/HGSS, Mario Kart DS, Chrono Trigger and Wario Ware D.I.Y., but do not expect every game to work out of the box yet.

    Not a flashcard fan? No worries. This version also comes with fixes for three games (SpongeBob's Atlantis SquarePantis, Ultimate Mortal Kombat and The World Ends With You) and widescreen improvements thanks to @Vague Rant's contributions. If you've been out of the loop, AP patches began being included since version 9.1.2 and, starting from v9.5.0, almost every AP-protected game has a built-in patch, with Kirby Mass Attack and Imagine Resort Owner being the only two exceptions.

    For the curious, here is the official changelog and the list of widescreen-suppoted games:
    TWiLight Menu++ v10.0.0 changelog
    List of games with widescreen support

    If you want to get TWiLight Menu++ v10.0.0 follow the instructions in the official thread linked below. Be sure to update both TWiLight Menu++ and nds-bootstrap if you had already installed an earlier version on your console!

    What do you think about B4DS? Will you be using it on a piece of hardware you considered useless or long dead? Will it be able to revive old, abandoned and unsupported cards? Feel free to leave a post in this thread with your thoughts!

    UPDATE: Version 10.0.1 has been released to address some issues and add extra options for flashcard autoboot users.

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  1. Bullseye

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    Great to see new projects like this! Props to the developer and team!
     
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  2. Zense

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    The combined effort of all these people is just incredible! The DS/DSi/3DS homebrew scene is really lucky to have all of them working together on projects like these :grog:
     
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  3. Ericthegreat

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    Didn't games and music have a weird way of loading ROMs? It probably didn't have patches or other necessary anti piracy features, but I remember people using it.
     
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  4. VatoLoco

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    Cool stuff. I'll have to try this out with my old max media dock.
     
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    Yup really thankful to this group of talented people.
     
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  6. Robz8

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    Would like to point out that the game's SDK version doesn't matter.
    Some games will not work, regardless of the SDK version.
     
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  7. RattletraPM
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    Not that I remember of. I've had an Action Replay DS Media Edition which was basically an all-in-one ARDS with save backup functionality + Games 'n Music and, while admittedly I didn't give the homebrew part of it much use as I also had an R4DS, I only remember a few people managed to boot some commercial game demos - but that was it. If I remember correctly it was due to a hardcoded file size limit or something like that.

    Gotcha, I was quoting this changelog here but I'll edit it out then!
     
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  8. GalenTheGamer

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    So I have an old Gateway 3DS lying around I haven't used in over a year. Can I pick up a N3DS at a used game shop and expect it to run Twilight, DS/3DS rom backups, and do widescreen hacks, etc?
     
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  9. Robz8

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    You can run ROM backups, but no widescreen.
     
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  10. x65943

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    You are not gonna want to use a gateway to run 3ds roms in 2019.

    Use luma and install cia backups.
     
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  11. Megadriver94

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    I wonder what that means for people with older versions of TWiLight Menu++ Installed (me included) What can I do now?
     
  12. Dartz150

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    Just update, if you are using SD card you will get better compatibility as it has been worked more time (but B4DS will reach it eventually)
     
  13. raxadian

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    Okay, it probably can't make a R4 load more than 2 gb for a micro sd Card but... yay!
     
  14. Kwyjor

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    A silly question, probably, but these wild new features don't somehow enable switching to TWL clock speed while running from a flashcard (i.e. on a system with stock firmware), do they..?
     
  15. Robz8

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    Nope.
     
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  16. Hyro-Sama

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    My 3DS freezes when I back out of the settings. Anyone else getting this?
     
  17. Randy95354

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    So if you dont want to softmod your 3ds you can use a flashcard now same thing correct?
     
  18. Reploid

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    DLDI? It's been a while since I saw this acronym
     
  19. MiiJack

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    Will a "bricked" (I'm not even sure if it's bricked) R4 Dual core SDHC from 2013 work :P?
     
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