[Tutorial] ANOTHER Magnetic Reed Switch RCM Installation

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    [TUTORIAL] [MOD] RCM mode with just a magnet (maghax). No visible changes to the Switch or Joycon!!! v1.7 2018-06-28

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    This should be a pretty solid method for installing a MAGNETIC REED RELAY into your Right Joycon. the purpose is to have a cosmetically PERFECT Switch, with the ability to launch RCM with almost no effort. You just need to have a strong magnet to hold near the bottom right corner of the right joycon while you press power and volume + when booting. There are no known side affects of this method. i.e. you can still charge, use the joycon or switch normally. It's essentially stock when there is no magnet nearby and should last forever with no risk (after installation). I'd not send it in for warranty repair with the reed switch installed though :). This is a MUCH better option than a jig if you don't mind some soldering

    The tutorial requires MODEST disassembly and soldering skill.

    I'm not saying my approach and tutorial is any better than what other's have done (and posted). They certainly deserve credit. However, this is what I did and I think it's the best approach. I had previously posted a PSA about "why jigs are a bad idea" as I don't agree with them generally. So here is an explanation (for the reasonably skilled solderer) to do a magnetic reed switch the way I did it.

    Note that much of the tutorial text is IN the spoilers with the pictures. Don't miss it. It is always at the top above the picture. I elected to keep this pretty visual rather than text, but happy to add more if people want more detail.

    It is advisable to disconnect the joycon battery before starting to solder. I didn't disconnect the battery when I did the mod. So there isn't a picture of it.

    Tools to get started
    I didn't include info on how to open the case beyond showing the triwing screwdriver. There are better tutorials on opening the joycon VIDEO and TEXT
    Reed switch used
    Wire lengths
    Bent reed switch
    Added wires to reed switch
    Visual length of heat shrink
    Shrunk reed switch
    Remove the foam
    Solder Points
    Soldered in
    Reed switch put in place in the casing
    REPLACE THE FOAM
    If it isn't obvious, the way you know you did it right are with the below two tests, with and without magnet, and what you should see on the screen. Speaking of Magnets: I'd consider using a 1/4" or larger rare earth or "neodymium magnet" They come in different grades N35 N42 N50 etc. The higher the number the stronger. Any of them should work. The dark brown or black "ceramic" magnets work but they are not as strong so you might consider a larger size (maybe 1/2"??). Ebay has tons of them, Harbor Freight has rare earth magnets and magnetic grabber tools. Buymagnets.com is also an option but shipping might kill it.
    Demo no magnet
    Demo Magnet

    Here is a nice discussion of specific wire lengths and soldering technique as well as a way to use the kickstand to store the magnet [Post 84]
     

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  3. MrWhosHacking

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    I really like that. Well done and I have one with a tiny flip switch and I can still charge it
     
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    Decent, what size was the reed switch?
    any other places we can solder (pcb?)
    any risks of soldering where you did over doing the PCB?

    I think this is the wat forward for sure it's neater and less risk to those pins
     
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    Good point, I should make a note that the switch is fully functional, joycon can be charged (as long as magnet is not nearby)

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    It's 1.8mm x 10mm (body of the reed switch). Other places, maybe, I didn't look and didn't want to further disassemble the joycon to examine the PCB. I suspect that there isn't a lot of other space beyond that pocket for the wires.

    I don't quite follow what you mean by "overdoing" but if you mean hurting the flex, or thermally damaging it. It isn't TOO risky. The flex is made of polyimide (kapton). It can handle a lot of heat. It is more delicate than normal PCBs and the first failure will be delamination of the copper from the polyimide. If you keep the iron on the pins too long you could have some issues, or damage the mating components. I'd avoid heating it for more than about 10 seconds at 700F
     
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    I think this is really creative and awesome way to get into rcm. My only concern and question is that overtime, will there be any negative side effects to the hardware? Thanks for posting this! Great idea!
     
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    ah ok that was my only concern I've soldered loads of pcbs including smd soldering but I've never soldered that type of flex before, plent of flux will help i guess.
    Awesome mod tho
     
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    I added a note about side effects. There is NO side effect or potential problems for the hardware. The only risks are.

    1). Damage when opening the joycon (clumsy)
    2). Soldering (overheating or melting plastic could certainly happen).

    Otherwise the mod should last forever. It is MUCH safer than a jig from the perspective of long term life after install.
     
  9. baretbh

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    Very awesome! I wonder if people will start selling these on ebay, I think their will be a market for them especially for later firmware Switch owners.
     
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    You really shouldn't need flux. It isn't THAT tight and there is generous solder on the pins already. No clean flux won't hurt anything though, but it's a spot that would be hard to clean the flux up afterwards. I didn't use any flux in the mod. As I said the flex isn't TOO delicate, but it is definitely MORE delicate than most PCBs.

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    certainly. You could easily sell a kit with shrink tube, reed switch, two pieces of wire and a triwing for for $5 or $10. Or you could just sell the reed switch, first class mail (in the US) for a couple bucks including shipping. I wouldn't want to do it though. I wouldn't make any money hahahaha.
     
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    I'll be attempting this once my reed switch arrives thanks
     
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    Awesome. Let me know if you need help, OR if you learn something that should go in the tutorial!
     
  13. Kubas_inko

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    Interesting how my joy-con works no matter if the pin 10 is grounded or not.
     
  14. subcon959

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    Did you solder to same points? Is your joycon firmware the same? Those are the only 2 variables I can think of.
     
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    Yea just the parts by themselves wouldn't sell well but put together as a product would be cool. Not sure how Nintendo would react though
     
  16. Kubas_inko

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    Yes, I have pin 9 and 10 soldered together.
    I have done a test to prove that it depends on joy-con fw, but it failed :D . I had mine joy-con on lowest fw possible (from 1.0.0 console) and it worked. Then I updated it on my 5.x switch and it is still detected (on both consoles).
     
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    use pin 1 and 10, not 9 and 10. 9 is not a ground and it doesn't always work for people. Let us know if that fixes it.
     
  18. subcon959

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    Hmm, it's very weird how this disconnected issue only happens to some people and not others.
     
  19. Kubas_inko

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    If that fixes what? My joy-con is fully working lol.

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    I know. That's why I've done the test. I thought it is FW related...
     
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    Sorry Kubas, I thought you were having problems, I misread.
     
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