This may be a stupid question, but....

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  1. Hackintush
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    Can't hackers and exploiters use Cemu to make things easier, or is it just a game based emulator? I mean, Citra can run homebrew I'm pretty sure, and Cemu does have a log system, sooooo......
     
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  7. Net-KILLER

    Net-KILLER computer says no

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    The emulator doesn't emulate the whole WiiU.
    It just plays the games.
     
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    I don't see the reason why you guys are being such fucking dicks about a simple question, which the author even labels "may be stupid", which isn't an excuse to be a dick >.>

    To answer your question, no. Cemu is aimed more towards emulating games, but maybe if you can load RPLs and RPXs, you might be able to get somewhere but it wouldn't make much sense.
     
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    Thanks for the answer sir.

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    Then the better question is, what version of Wii U does Cemu emulate?
     
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    i dont believe that cemu emulates any version of the wii u firmware, it just gets the games to work. I cannot play on cemu cause my computer is shit, good thing i have a wii u.
     
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    You need to reevaluate your understanding of emulators. But that's ok.

    But guys, seriously, this? The community has been bashing each other for months but how low do you even want to scoop, anymore?
    Also on a sidenote i havent even seen ONCE anyone at least apologize after being a total dickhead to people, you could at least practice that if you can't turn away from your hobby, guys...
     
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    @OP this will help with understanding.
    The third option in this answer I do believe is how cemu is running.
    http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11059497/how-do-video-game-emulators-work
    Basically the game calls for something and it is substituted for the hardware/software the computer has.
    In a nutshell cemu could be useful for homebrew if one was able to find a flawed game that would be able to cause an overflow in the memory to allow for exploitation.
    If you are interested in messing with cemu for exploitation purposes I would advise you to break the cemu program down and open the source coding. That would be of far more value then a kernel level game exploit. (just my 2 cents)
     
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    Jackall4BDN Haunter of Daydreams and Nightmares

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    For some research and allready getting onto making some gamehacks/minor homebrew this is an awesome approach, but keep in mind tbat this emulator still lacks a lot in accuracy and uses a TON of trickery to run the games as good as it does, so dont expect much memory-aimed manipulation to later work on actual hardware.
     
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    You mean like using cemu to play theough titles and dump the ram and whatever else into a debugger to scan for inconsistencies? that sounds like highly detailed work, with little advantage over just using the actual console.
     
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    This. I don't know why some of the users in this community are acting like imbeciles. Give OP a break, he said that it may be a stupid question. Like @Jackall4BDN said, some of you guys need to apologize to him. :(

    I honestly wish there's a facepalm emote in this website.
     
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    All I know is how Citra works, some I'm not sure I know EVERYTHING about Cemu, obviously.

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    Also, what I mean by all this is that can't exploiters find certain exploits in games within Cemu?
     
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    Jackall4BDN Haunter of Daydreams and Nightmares

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    Show me how to easily watch the ram on just any WiiU and we talk about the difference in advantage. From what i can tell in the community, Cemu is much more spread and accessible than a <=5.4 wiiU
     
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    Most emulators start out open source, and only play homebrew at first, the game playing comes much further along in the cycle, because the emulator is made to emulate the system, not to play games, that is only a secondary result of making the system emulation better. Cemu is not one of the typical emulators, it's not open source, it seems to be targeted at people wanting to play backups, and not targeted at actually emulating the system. And now it has the option to pay money for early versions to "support" the developer in making game emulation better. So yeah, I doubt this emulator will ever be made to play homebrew in rpx, rpl, or elf format, but more and more games will slowly be added and improved, while the amount of subscribers slowly increases ...
     
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    Holy shit guys CHILL. There's no need to be at each other's throats like this. The OP genuinely wants to learn, stop using threads like these as an excuse to start flame wars
     
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    Jackall4BDN Haunter of Daydreams and Nightmares

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    Well to be fair, nobody likes being called a jerk without indication of some kind of joke or being buddy-buddy and after that, me merely making fun of you in return for not even aknownledging the (not minor) factor of availability to the situation until that point is to be expected then and just as harmless as you think of mildly insulting me. And if all that elaboration there did arise just from me using italics and poking you a bit, i'm not the one of us who needs to calm down, and if it didnt then you where mad at someone else.

    BUT just 2 more cents. PM me if you need to continue this.
     
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    You can report flaming and troll posts instead of replying and being part of the offtopic discussion which need cleanup.
     
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