The situation in Ukraine...

[Coto]

You're making shit out of thin air, I never mentioned Latin America, you're deflecting the actual issue.

And by the way, the US didn't bring freedom to Chile in the 70's.

You're full of diarrhea anyways. Like I said, our country helped to beat ex-URSS once and it's fact. If you don't want to fight, go join United Nations or WHO and chain yourself as some form of protest, they're waiting there for you, tard.

 

[UltraDolphinRevolution]

Theirs 8 million Russian speaking in Ukraine (as their primary language), most located to the Easter.

Roughy 30 million speak Ukrainian. You are literally wrong in so many regards that I don't even wanna hear you speak a word about it.

Let me solve that mystery for you, Einstein.
Most Ukrainians understand Russian and Ukrainian equally well. If you consider Ukrainian a language, you can call them bilingual. The facts remain: 2/3 understand Russian on a native-speaker level.

Also it's not a borderlands for "Russia" it's a borderland between multiple nations since surprise surprise! Ukraine wasn't Russian first.

We can debate whose borders but the fact remains: it means borderlands.

Oh and in Hong Kong you don't speak Mandarin. You speak Cantonese.

People in HK grow up bilingual (and sometimes trilingual if you consider English; usually not on the same level as the other two though). So which facts am I "literally wrong about"?

 

[Lucaserf]

You're full of diarrhea anyways. Like I said, our country beat ex-URSS once and it's fact. If you don't want to fight, go join United Nations or WHO and chain yourself as some form of protest, they're waiting there for you, tard.

The fuck you're even talking about?

Want to go to war? Easy, join the Ukrainian Foreign Legion. Don't pussy out now, are you afraid?

 

[linuxares]

Let me solve that mystery for you, Einstein.
Most Ukrainians understand Russian and Ukrainian equally well. If you consider Ukrainian a language, you can call them bilingual. The facts remain: 2/3 understand Russian on a native-speaker level.

We can debate whose borders but the fact remains: it means borderlands.

People in HK grow up bilingual (and sometimes trilingual if you consider English; usually not on the same level as the other two though). So which facts am I "literally wrong about"?

As Primary language. I can speak 3 languages. Does that make me Norwegian as well?
Or that I can speak english? Does that make me a Brit?

 

[blakeana]

Want to go to war? Easy, join the Ukrainian Foreign Legion. Don't pussy out now, are you afraid?

ngl i've been debating doing this but they'd die from laughter and consider me unfit for the army + don't think they accept transsexed people in their army no?

 

[UltraDolphinRevolution]

you're not a linguist or a sociologist so please shut the fuck up when talking about something you have no idea of

Actually I am a linguist. Completely irrelevant. Attack the argument, not the person. Here it is again:

"I never denied the power imbalance between languages. Russian is the dominant language when compared to Ukrainian. German compared to Dutch, etc. The fact that this dominance has been inforced does not in any way negate my point: fight the dominant language and invite trouble."

No hypocrisy on my part.

 

[blakeana]

Actually I am a linguist. Completely irrelevant. Attack the argument, not the person. Here it is again:

"I never denied the power imbalance between languages. Russian is the dominant language when compared to Ukrainian. German compared to Dutch, etc. The fact that this dominance has been inforced does not in any way negate my point: fight the dominant language and invite trouble."

No hypocrisy on my part.

no you're not
and if you somehow actually have a degree or anything then i have serious doubts about the quality of your university that handed you this fucking degree

again russian is not the dominant language, ukrainian is

 

[Dark Ronin]

Forget this asshole, he joined this forum today just to make insulting shitposts.

 

[blakeana]

Forget this asshole, he joined this forum today just to make insulting shitposts.

L + no profile picture + you're russian + you fell off + fatherless

 

[djpannda]

As Primary language. I can speak 3 languages. Does that make me Norwegian as well?
Or that I can speak english? Does that make me a Brit?

You mean American.. lol sorry

Actually I am a linguist. Completely irrelevant. Attack the argument, not the person. Here it is again:

"I never denied the power imbalance between languages. Russian is the dominant language when compared to Ukrainian. German compared to Dutch, etc. The fact that this dominance has been inforced does not in any way negate my point: fight the dominant language and invite trouble."

No hypocrisy on my part.

…. Suuuuuuuuurrrrrreeeeeeeeeees

 

[Lucaserf]

If you consider Ukrainian a language

There is no "If", Ukrainian is a language, just because they share similarities (No surprise, they have the same origin), doesn't mean they are the same, nor that russian is the most dominant language in Ukraine. Going by your logic, if only 2/3 understand both russian and ukrainian, ukrainian is still the dominant language, after all, the whole population understands it, unlike russian.

A familiar example: you could say the same for portuguese and spanish, many people in Brazil understands spanish, I'd say around 2/3, that doesn't make us spanish or makes it the dominant language in Brazil, see what I mean? We can understand, doesn't mean we use it

 

[UltraDolphinRevolution]

no you're not
and if you somehow actually have a degree or anything then i have serious doubts about the quality of your university that handed you this fucking degree

again russian is not the dominant language, ukrainian is

I have serious doubt you are actually transsexual. Want to share pics? I send you my degree, you send me evidence of male and female characteristics of yours. I don´t mean your female way of arguing a la "please stop" "oh i dont want to hear a word from you"

Russian is dominant in the sense of having more power and spread. Even among Ukrainian native speakers it is not uncommon to speak in Russian despite the absence of Russians. I know because I have witnessed it many times (I am not considered a Russian-speaker; I understand it somewhat and can distinguish it from Ukrainian).

 

[djpannda]

There is no "If", Ukrainian is a language, just because they share similarities (No surprise, they have the same origin), doesn't mean they are the same, nor that russian is the most dominant language in Ukraine. Going by your logic, if only 2/3 understand both russian and ukrainian, ukrainian is still the dominant language, after all, the whole population understands it, unlike russian.

A familiar example: you could say the same for portuguese and spanish, many people in Brazil understands spanish, I'd say around 2/3, that doesn't make us spanish or makes it the dominant language in Brazil, see what I mean? We can understand, doesn't mean we use it

at this Point, He realized he done Fucked up and he just talking circles, because he Embarrassed himself and his CCP handlers

 

[UltraDolphinRevolution]

at this Point, He realized he done Fucked up and he just talking circles, because he Embarrassed himself and his CCP handlers

It is called CPC, not CCP.
I stand by what I said. Russian is the dominant language (compared to Ukrainian).

Russian speakers in Ukraine: 100% (2/3 on native-speaker level)
Ukrainian speakers in Ukraine: Less than the above (millions fewer)
Do Russians sometimes speak Ukrainian in the absence of Ukrainian? No.
Do Ukrainians sometimes speak Russian in the absence of Russians? Yes

Ergo Russian is dominant. You can whine about it all you want.

 

[djpannda]

It is called CPC, not CCP.
I stand by what I said. Russian is the dominant language (compared to Ukrainian).

Russian speakers in Ukraine: 100% (2/3 on native-speaker level)
Ukrainian speakers in Ukraine: Less than the above (millions fewer)
Do Russians sometimes speak Ukrainian in the absence of Ukrainian? No.
Do Ukrainians sometimes speak Russian in the absence of Russians? Yes

Ergo Russian is dominant. You can whine about it all you want.

Funny how you just admitted that CCP is activity trying to Abolish Cantonese because the the Captial Speak Mandarin but the same situation Ukraine is trying to enforce the language of its choice and you condone War crimes..
man, You going off the CCP approved scripted and I don't think your handlers will like it much...
so what your stating is that India can legal libertate Tibet ? weird thing to advocate

 

[Deleted member 586536]

Is racism against Russians going to be a problem after all this?

unlikely?
Reasoning:racism against Chinese people, was mostly popularized by trump after not walking down on well "kungflu"
if were to assume that Trump still has some sway, people wouldn't be racist to Russians due to Trump calling vlad "smart"
However, the reality of the situation is that Trump doesn't have much sway anymore, and that the focus is on Biden, so as long as Biden doesn't use some derogatory term for Russians, I believe it won't be an issue.
+ most of the media hasn't covered it as Russians wanting this, ergo, that Putin, wants this.

 

[djpannda]

Russia's latest justification for the invasion of Ukraine: Stopping a war in Ukraine​

First it was Nato, Then Nazis, Then Russian being oppressed now.. the Stop hitting yourself defense

 

[Xzi]

So tell me, why USA didn't get banned from everywhere back that days while Russia do novadays?

People were willing to believe that those responsible for 9/11 were in Afghanistan or Iraq. Flimsy excuse or not, Russia doesn't even have that much to fall back on for its actions in Ukraine.

 

[djpannda]

lol suspect the crypto market ain’t as safe as people believe

 

[UltraDolphinRevolution]

Funny how you just admitted that CCP is activity trying to Abolish Cantonese because the the Captial Speak Mandarin but the same situation Ukraine is trying to enforce the language of its choice and you condone War crimes..
man, You going off the CCP approved scripted and I don't think your handlers will like it much...
so what your stating is that India can legal libertate Tibet ? weird thing to advocate

The CPC is not trying to abolish Cantonese. It encourages to keep alive all kinds of languages within China.
If they force a TV station to broadcast in Mandarin (let´s say the story is true), then they are promoting the dominant language, i.e. Mandarin. So there is no hypocrisy. If HK were independent and banned Mandarin, then there would be an equivalency.

English is dominant in comparison to Chinese. There are more people on this earth whose mother tongue is Chinese, but there are more English-speaking people on this earth (including just comparing native-speaker levels). Everyone in the world understands "hello" but only part of the world understands "nihao". The Chinese people learn English, the English-speaking world does not study Chinese. China could declare war on English but this would be against their own interest. Ukrainians wanted to force the separation from Russians at all costs, while being ethnically, historically and economically tied to them by the hips. They wanted conflict and now they got it. It is not a justification. Just plain facts.