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the funny thing is that there already is a version of windows 10 available for arm cpu's...apple is on the high of a life time if they think that they can force people to suddenly move over to working with arm in mass just because of them...just the same as just because it has the sony name does not mean people would be willing to pay anything for the ps3...especially it's launch price
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Windows had been in the legacy trap (has to be compatible to code from 25 years ago) all of its existence.

Apple has a dedicated dev base and just said - eff 32 bit applications, we dont need that instruction set, 64 bit or you are out. And with ARM they now can produce the main component of their Mac platform in house. At significantly reduced cost (doesnt have to run legacy instruction sets). And they have all the money in the bank, and they are a Hardware company - to promote software sales.

If they do it right, and MS' lock in doesnt win the day by default ('too many people depend on the ecosystem as is') MS should be toast.

(MS has the biggest issue on the developer side. The ecosystem is so fragmented, that actually long tail is their business ("but can it run that...:")).

Also gaming. Will not fully shift to arm for quite a while.

But productivity wise, Apple should come out with machines twice as perfomant at half the cost (to x86 competitors) in one to two years. (Because on top of all that Intel (x86 producer) had a hard time getting their transistor size down, while ARM producers had not.)
 
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Windows had been in the legacy trap (has to be compatible to code from 25 years ago) all of its existence.

Apple has a dedicated dev base and just said - eff 32 bit applications, we dont need that instruction set, 64 bit or you are out. And with ARM they now can produce the main component of their Mac platform in house. At significantly reduced cost (doesnt have to run legacy instruction sets). And they have all the money in the bank, and they are a Hardware company - to promote software sales.

If they do it right, and MS' lock in doesnt win the day by default ('too many people depend on the ecosystem as is') MS should be toast.

(MS has the biggest issue on the developer side. The ecosystem is so fragmented, that actually long tail is their business ("but can it run that...:")).

Also gaming. Will not fully shift to arm for quite a while.

But productivity wise, Apple should come out with machines twice as perfomant at half the cost (to x86 competitors) in one to two years. (Because on top of all that Intel (x86 producer) had a hard time getting their transistor size down, while ARM producers had not.)
1. does apple really need more money given how high they set there prices...chances are they would triple the cost to match that doubled power and tell the consumer nothing of how it's cheaper for them to make

2. there is a good reason that windows wins out because of it's legacy support. For those who use mac devices they are being told to go fuck themselves and buy a software upgrade to keep up with the hardware or not be able to keep up because they have to wait for awhile for it to be ported even if it is a free upgrade where as with windows it's just a matter of processing power that may be an issue as to whether or not the software you use to do your work will work. This applying even more so to businesses who may not want to shell out even more cash alongside the hardware upgrade they may be doing

3. I still hold to my point that apple holds nowhere near enough of a stake in the market to throw years of compatibility down the drain. It's not like dumping 32 bit where we have had both 64 and 32 at the same time and had time to transition...no, it's just a complete upheaval of currently used hardware.
 
1. does apple really need more money given how high they set there prices...chances are they would triple the cost to match that doubled power and tell the consumer nothing of how it's cheaper for them to make
At first, sure - but given the cost savings, they would have to at least try to take a stab at a bigger market share, in one of the market segments they could 'disrupt'. Bigger market share almost always is preferable over short term profits, if you can get it. ;)

2. Entirely agree, long tail usually wins the day. But they could at least make a valiant effort in trying to disrupt some sectors.

3. While this is a perspective I personally would like to agree with (I'm still on Mojave for a reason ;) ) because a Mac is more of a 'creatives' and 'lifestyle' sectors product - you dont need that many software solutions to switch over to make the bulk of your people happy. And for Apple the move results in almost total control over their production chain, and huge cost savings, while gaining a likely competitive advantage that their competition cant easily match.

At the same time, maybe 'but you cant run Windows using bootcamp' is a dealbreaker in its own right already. ;) I doubt it, but I dont know. An advantage in hardware doesnt usually win you the race.... But if you are dedicated, have Apple money, and try to gain market share - who knows... (If done right predictions might not be too 'off', is my point.. ;) )
 
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I think this is important to post a quick reminder regarding how this thread works, Tempers :)

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If they are good enough they will be featured in the Meme Box on the home page!

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Or simply 'like' the posts in this forum thread right here to boost user-posted memes and give them a chance to hit the front page.
Have fun!

Happy posting! Sorry for the interruption.
 
I think this is important to post a quick reminder regarding how this thread works, Tempers :)



Happy posting! Sorry for the interruption.
What post of mine did you remove.. something about Windows?

I understand your reasoning if yes. But, there are still some posts by other people up about Windows (at least one is on this page)
 
What post of mine did you remove.. something about Windows?

I understand your reasoning if yes. But, there are still some posts by other people up about Windows (at least one is on this page)
technically in the case of what me and and notimp where talking about it does have something to do with gaming in the form of that fact that a forced big shift from one architecture to another would have cataclysmic ripple affects on gaming in terms of making it even harder to play old software. though that is just one part of many
 
technically in the case of what me and and notimp where talking about it does have something to do with gaming in the form of that fact that a forced big shift from one architecture to another would have cataclysmic ripple affects on gaming in terms of making it even harder to play old software. though that is just one part of many
But that means that what I posted is just as relevant to gaming as your post.

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technically in the case of what me and and notimp where talking about it does have something to do with gaming in the form of that fact that a forced big shift from one architecture to another would have cataclysmic ripple affects on gaming in terms of making it even harder to play old software. though that is just one part of many
I checked and it wasn't my Windows post. Not sure what it was, I shrug.
 

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