Hacking System Menu questions/thoughts

[forbore]

Wow! Seems like the idea that started about 2 days ago finally got somewhere! Been following this since the first post and you have done ALOT! Good job! Again! Must be like the 10th time I say that... Lol!

 

[Jizmo]

Well i finally finished patching every wii CIOS IOS9-IOS55 am uploading as we speak, will take about 20 min

Yummy..... I'm waiting with Hemp breath.

 

[WiiBlaster]

Just Pm for Link, im only going to give it out, to a few people, From there, ya can share the link.

 

[Jizmo]

You have all of these installed on your system and everything working ok correct WiiBlaster?
and are you using System Menu pointed at IOS30 or IOS249?

 

[WiiBlaster]

Well I can't test every IOS, Cause I dont have every game that runs off of every IOS, but i tested most of them, Without any Probs, But this shouldn't cause any bricks, cause if it was going to brick it would've done so on the patched IOS30 but it didn't so if you notice any broken game support for any org titles just PM me i have the Org Unpatched IOS's if you need to re-install them

WITH THIS DOWNLOAD THERES NO NEED TO RUN OFF OF A PATCH SYSTEM MENU ANYMORE, I'M RUNNING ON A ORG UNPATCHED SYSTEM MYSELF WITHOUT ANY PROBS

but if your already on a patched system menu from the older methods it doesn't hurt anything
I do recommend this on a 3.2firmware

 

[cdn_bacon]

Well I can't test every IOS, Cause I dont have every game that runs off of every IOS, but i tested most of them, Without any Probs, But this shouldn't cause any bricks, cause if it was going to brick it would've done so on the patched IOS30 but it didn't so if you notice any broken game support for any org titles just PM me i have the Org Unpatched IOS's if you need to re-install them

WITH THIS DOWNLOAD THERES NO NEED TO RUN OFF OF A PATCH SYSTEM MENU ANYMORE, I'M RUNNING ON A ORG UNPATCHED SYSTEM MYSELF WITHOUT ANY PROBS

but if your already on a patched system menu from the older methods it doesn't hurt anything
I do recommend this on a 3.2firmware

I was just about to ask you about patching the system menu. I am going to go try it out and I will let you know.

bacon

 

[telefunkin]

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[Jizmo]

I installed the lower IOS's that i was missing, I noticed that is looks like you just cloned IOS33 for 9-20. For 21 did you patch the Official IOS21 with the dip module or is it another IOS/DIP combination?

So far all my 1:1 backups working perfectly including NFS Undercover, Call Of Duty 3 etc... all the tricky ones. (NTSC Games since my Wii is NTSC that is)

I'll test and make sure PAL games still load with Gamma.

Edit: The out of region games still work using gamma of course since they're still directed to IOS249 as they were before.

 

[WiiBlaster]

I installed the lower IOS's that i was missing, I noticed that is looks like you just cloned IOS33 for 9-20. For 21 did you patch the Official IOS21 with the dip module or is it another IOS/DIP combination?

Yes You are correct IOS33 mixed with CIOSrev7 as the desired IOS's this is only true on IOS9-IOS22 thats what am saying if you notice any broken game support let me now, I have the Org IOS if you need to re-install so far i havn't noticed anything

This was the only solution for patching them IOS's cause their in a different format, and wont in them selves accept patching stright from the CIOS rev 7

 

[cdn_bacon]

I installed the wads with no issues. loaded up MOH2 via the disc channel and it fired up no problem. Thanks for the link to the orig ios as well (just in case)

I am going to go through and test a bunch of the games I have and see what happens

 

[WiiBlaster]

Now that this is done, I have one last to say, People out there reading this, If your smart you wont install this, Cause I dont recommend it,
If you have the Backup Loader Working correctly Theres no need to take the risk of Bricking, Cause this does have high risk of bricking those that have tested it and Like it thats great!
I only wanted to see if it could be done,

And also a side note, I'm not giving out the CIOS Pack anymore, Also Ether will be releasing his tool soon if everything goes good with these, Once you get his tool, Theirs no need for the CIOS.wads cause his tool if used correctly does the same exact thing

Hope Everything goes good and no one Bricks!

 

[cdn_bacon]

Thanks for the time you put into patching and uploading the cios and orig ios. I do agree that you should only do this if you are willing to deal with possibility of a brick like me

 

[ether2802]

Damn, and I am still missing the party cause I don't want to do this on my baby1, and my WiineaPig resist to keep freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee *turns off*......*turns ON*........zeing..!!

 

[Jizmo]

hey Blaster... I think you accidently packaged original IOS21 into the CIOSCORP pack. Im gonna need that for further testing or I'll just wait till i get my hands on Ether's multi-cios-installer. MLB Power Pros 2008 goes to error screen same as games that call on unpatched IOS. Plus you said 9-22 was just IOS33DIP7 and IOS21 is different size than the rest of them.

Edit: I installed cIOS36Dip7 as IOS21 and disc works fine so apparently it was the original IOS21.

 

[WiiBlaster]

edit You was right thanks for pointing that out

Its been fixed, and a new CIOS Package made, and uploaded

 

[thawkins1]

Can someone send me the link please?

 

[Deleted User]

This is awesome, this pure and simple awesome.
I've tried all of my games, original and burnt. They all work straight from disc channel.
2 out of region games (1 original, 1 patched) both work.
This setup + Starfall = pure awesome.

All this from an idea which was thought up just a couple of days ago, why couldn't forsaekn be that fast....

Anyways thanks WiiBlaster and Ether on all your work on this!
Good luck on getting your wii to work Ether

 

[Jizmo]

Ok. I've now done an extensive Quick Test of Wii running FULL custom IOS. Below are the results......

*** Bear in Mind that this is an NTSC setup.... So when I describe differences or problems caused by PAL mode what I'm probably referring to is not really problems with PAL, but with "Out of Region" titles and modes. ***

Wii SYSTEM SPECS
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USA NTSC Wii
System Menu 3.2U Patched to IOS249
Starfall Installed All Option Enabled except GC Region Free
All IOS are replace with cIOS versions, some of which are patched Original IOS files and others which are cIOS36 or cIOS37 with DIP module 7

CHARACTORISTICS OF DISC CHANNEL
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The Disc Channel by default upon boot treats NTSC 1:1 Backup exacly like Originals. The Icon/Banner/Music is all normal. The access speed on the backups is still 3x instead of 6x I'm sure but it seems faster than with Gamma or Softchip, but that could be the effect of adrenaline in my bloodstream. Call of Duty 3 seemed to load almost instantly.

PAL Games Region Changed to NTSC are treated just like NTSC games. They show up in Disc Channel and launch successfully in NTSC video mode.

Original game Discs seemed to load as normal and run at 6x speed. Originals of Guitar Hero World Tour and Rock Band were tested and loaded and worked perfectly.

Out of Region Games is a different story. Right out of the gate let me state that Waninkoko's Menu Patcher appears to be dead in the water now. Small price to pay.
Rebooter however is working. If you run rebooter you then get the Icon/Banner/Music in Disc Channel. You can also then run the game from Disc Channel, it will however run in PAL mode. I think here it is just always going to run the game using the games Region/Video settings. This is evident since I ran 3 PAL 1:1 games and two of them ran in PAL50 and one in PAL60. This can probably be aleviated by a simple modification of Rebooter.

Decrypted/Patched ISOs do not work from Disc Channel, same as previously.

GAME COMPATABILITY
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WHOW............ Seems Pretty Perfect........... I think maybe everything in NTSC region might work.

I loaded a couple dozen games and all seemed to work perfectly. Here is summory of game/peripheral testing. All Discs are 1:1 NTSC Backups.

Rock Band: Loads and plays perfect. All USB instruments working.
Guitar Hero World Tour: Loads and Plays perfect. Online play perfect.
Dance Dance Revolution Hottest Party: Loads and plays perfect. GC Dancepad works perfect.
Rock Band 2: Loads and plays perfect. All USB/Bluetooth instruments working. Online working.
Wii Fit: Loads and plays perfect. Balance board working.
Shaun White Snowboarding: Loads and plays perfect. Balance board working.
Super Mario Galaxy: Loads and plays perfect.
Mortal Kombat Armageddon (Patched to IOS249): Loads and plays perfect.
SSX Blur (Patched to IOS249): Loads and plays perfect.
Call of Duty 3 (Patched to IOS249): Loads and plays perfect.
MLB Baseball 2K8: Loads and plays perfect.
American Idol Encore: Loads and plays perfect. (my life loves this)
Mario & Sonic @ The Olympics: Loads and plays perfect.

To summorize...... everything I've thrown at it so far plays perfect... or as close to perfect as could be expected.


GAMMA 0.3 LAUNCHER
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Seems to Work Normal. Still able to force Video mode and hooks.

SOFTCHIP
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Same as Gamma. Seem everything working normally.

***** WANINKOKO'S MENU PATCHER *****
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Not Working. ICON/BANNER/SOUND is a no go.

***** GECKO OS 1.7 *****
------------------------------------
Rebooter Doesn't Work. ERROR LOADING MENU message.

MPLAYERWII
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Worked Normally. Played XVID from SD and streamed video from PC successfully.

HOMEBREW CHANNEL
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Everything I ran from it including Quake and Any Title Deleter worked normal.

WAD MANAGER CHANNEL
--------------------------------
Works normal. Uninstalled and Installed wads to test it.

FTPII CHANNEL
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Works normal.

INTERNET CHANNEL (Opera Browser)
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Works normal. Loaded up Yahoo home page and Youtube.com. Played Gamma Loader 0.3 Video successfully.

NEWS CHANNEL
-----------------------
Works Normal.

FORECAST CHANNEL
---------------------------
Works Normal.

NINTENDO CHANNEL
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Works Normal. Played a video.

CHECK MII OUT CHANNEL
---------------------------------
Works normal. Downloaded a Mii from posting plaza.

MII CHANNEL
-------------------
Works normal. Imported the Mii downloaded with Check Mii Out Channel

WII SHOP CHANNEL
----------------------------
Works normal. Downloaded the Updated Photo Channel 1.1

PHOTO CHANNEL
------------------------
Works normal.

WII SPEAK CHANNEL
----------------------------
Still tells me I don't have Wii Speak Hardware. Smart program.

VC GAME: 1080 SNOWBOARDING
---------------------------------------------
Works normal. GC Wireless controller worked perfect.


FINAL SUMMORY
-------------------------
Theres a whole lot of functionality in this setup. My One wish for it would be native Out of Region game support in Disc Channel.
A feature I really love is the ability to boot backup autoboot discs from starfall recovery mode. Autobooting WAD Manager ISO kicks major assage.
I'm sure I forgot and left a few things out, but to tell you the truth I was kinda trying and hoping to make something not work and failed misserably.
Other than Menu Patcher and Gecko OS not working properly, the only other failure I had is a PAL game that wouldn't boot from Disc Channel after running rebooter, but I'm not sure the disc is good or if it was an experimental disc I was using. I chalked that one up to being a bad disc.

I'm not gonna say everyone should be doing this IOS patching. It's risky and I did it because testing hacked devices is what I like to do. I get more fun out of this than playing the games. My Wii is also under warranty (it was bricked 2 months ago from a bad WAD and Nintendo replaced it in 4 days and gave me new 1 year warranty on it) so I wasn't worried about bricking. (plus I have starfall installed)

Finally..... Never remove the IOS that the System Menu is using. Before attempting anything be sure you fully understand the order to do things in so you don't lose your ability to load the system menu. I only patched IOS30 after System Menu was changed to IOS249. (the IOS you patch System Menu to MUST BE PRE-INSTALLED)

Also when I tried to use Multi-cIOS-Installer to install cIOS to IOS35 it wouldn't let me. I had to delete IOS35 with Any Title Deleter. This rendered Homebrew Channel inoperable since it uses IOS35. So I put Multi-cIOS-Installer on root of SD as boot.dol and booted it with Twilight Hack. Installed the IOS35 and all was back to normal.
Installing the cIOS from WAD packages seems to eliminate the need to uninstall some of the IOS before install the cIOS in it's place.

If I think of anyting I left out or discover anything else I'll edit this post. Now get to work on the Our of Region Issues coders!

 

[Jizmo]

This is awesome, this pure and simple awesome.
I've tried all of my games, original and burnt. They all work straight from disc channel.
2 out of region games (1 original, 1 patched) both work.
This setup + Starfall = pure awesome.

All this from an idea which was thought up just a couple of days ago, why couldn't forsaekn be that fast....

Anyways thanks WiiBlaster and Ether on all your work on this!
Good luck on getting your wii to work Ether

You say your'e able to run the out of Region games without using Rebooter? I'm assuming your on a PAL system.
Are you sure the games aren't Region patched? NTSC Region Code but PAL Game Code. For me on NTSC machine PAL games only show up in Disc Channel by decault if they are region patched to NTSC. The FULL PAL games only show up if I use rebooter.

 

[Deleted User]

This is awesome, this pure and simple awesome.
I've tried all of my games, original and burnt. They all work straight from disc channel.
2 out of region games (1 original, 1 patched) both work.
This setup + Starfall = pure awesome.

All this from an idea which was thought up just a couple of days ago, why couldn't forsaekn be that fast....

Anyways thanks WiiBlaster and Ether on all your work on this!
Good luck on getting your wii to work Ether

You say your'e able to run the out of Region games without using Rebooter? I'm assuming your on a PAL system.
Are you sure the games aren't Region patched? NTSC Region Code but PAL Game Code. For me on NTSC machine PAL games only show up in Disc Channel by decault if they are region patched to NTSC. The FULL PAL games only show up if I use rebooter.

It was region patched. The original one loads only because starfall.
I haven't tried any non-patched burnt NTSC games.

Also, what is this going to be called?
This is too good to go nameless.